Is QQ good?

Tackle

The villain is not a good player. I took a few quid off him earlier on two hands with crap after he had raised pf. I think he flopped the AK nut straight on one hand and he gave me two free cards before reraising my 83s runner runner rivered flush. I reraised him and took a decent amount off him. What do you do on the river here?

Rebel Without A Cause 4914572-10010 Holdem No Limit $1/$2
[Oct 14 11:26:42] : Hand Start.
[Oct 14 11:26:42] : Seat 1 : villain has $189
[Oct 14 11:26:42] : Seat 2 : Mintman has $95
[Oct 14 11:26:42] : Seat 3 : kingdav has $338.50
[Oct 14 11:26:42] : Seat 4 : grownup has $202.75
[Oct 14 11:26:42] : Seat 5 : Tacklef has $396.62
[Oct 14 11:26:42] : Seat 6 : NikRead has $70.75
[Oct 14 11:26:42] : Tacklef is the dealer.
[Oct 14 11:26:42] : NikRead posted small blind.
[Oct 14 11:26:43] : villain posted big blind.
[Oct 14 11:26:43] : Game [10010] started with 6 players.
[Oct 14 11:26:43] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Oct 14 11:26:43] : Seat 5 : Tacklef has Qs Qd
[Oct 14 11:26:44] : villain : nh
[Oct 14 11:26:45] : Mintman called $2
[Oct 14 11:26:48] : kingdav folded.
[Oct 14 11:26:50] : grownup called $2
[Oct 14 11:26:52] : grownup : ty
[Oct 14 11:26:52] : Tacklef called $2 and raised $6
[Oct 14 11:26:54] : NikRead folded.
[Oct 14 11:26:58] : villain called $6
[Oct 14 11:26:58] : Mintman folded.
[Oct 14 11:27:01] : grownup called $6
[Oct 14 11:27:01] : Dealing flop.
[Oct 14 11:27:01] : Board cards [2d 8c 5s]
[Oct 14 11:27:05] : villain checked.
[Oct 14 11:27:08] : grownup checked.
[Oct 14 11:27:13] : Tacklef bet $20
[Oct 14 11:27:18] : villain called $20
[Oct 14 11:27:19] : grownup folded.
[Oct 14 11:27:20] : Dealing turn.
[Oct 14 11:27:20] : Board cards [2d 8c 5s 4s]
[Oct 14 11:27:24] : villain checked.
[Oct 14 11:27:33] : Tacklef bet $30
[Oct 14 11:27:34] : villain called $30
[Oct 14 11:27:35] : Dealing river.
[Oct 14 11:27:35] : Board cards [2d 8c 5s 4s 8s]
[Oct 14 11:27:42] : villain bet $131 and is All-in
[Oct 14 11:27:57] : It's your turn.
[Oct 14 11:27:57] : Tacklef has 10 seconds to respond.

PPP-Pit Boss

If he had a pocket pair and he is as loose as you say he would have probably re-raised pre-flop. If he was holding two spades and the flop was rainbow I would not have expected a call to the bet on the flop Unless one of his two was the eight of spades or he had landed four to a straight. He called a 3 x rase pre-flop A 8? K 8 maybe? Being that there was a flush draw a straight draw and the possiblity of a set added to him calling and then raising you a third of your stack I would have folded the queens.

Ste05

I'd say he has an 8, or 6,7, you didn't raise enough Pre-Flop or on the turn IMHO.

Pre-Flop and with 2 callers before you, the BB still to act, he was priced in to call with any marginal hand really, so I'd say 6,7 (maybe even of spades for a str8 flush) is the most likely holding..

On the turn your half pot sized bet looked weak, although you say this guy is not good, I'm not sure in what way you mean this, does he bluff too much, call draws without proper odds, etc. etc. how would he view this half pot sized bet??

It's unlucky and a hard hand to fold but unless he is a complete Moron, he must have you beat by the river, by your description he sounds very passive, the only thing that he might possibly have that you still beat is JJ, TT or a complete bluff, But unless you've seen him making similar big bluffs, it's a fold IMHO...

Tackle

[Oct 14 11:28:06] : Tacklef called $131
[Oct 14 11:28:07] : Showdown!
[Oct 14 11:28:07] : Seat 5 : Tacklef has Qs Qd
[Oct 14 11:28:09] : Seat 1 : frt67yui has 5d Td
[Oct 14 11:28:09] : frt67yui has Two Pair: 8s and 5s
[Oct 14 11:28:09] : Seat 5 : Tacklef has Qs Qd
[Oct 14 11:28:09] : Tacklef has Two Pair: Queens and 8s
[Oct 14 11:28:09] : Tacklef wins $386 with Two Pair: Queens and 8s
[Oct 14 11:28:19] : Hand is over.

There were two reasons for the call.
1). I knew he was pissed at loosing alot of money on the earlier hands, he had been up near $300. Could he stand loosing even more money?
2). I hadn't seen him bluff before, but the all-in looked too much like a buy. If he had've bet $30-$60 I would've folded no problem. If he had an 8 that's the amount I'd expect him to bet.
I wanted to keep a lid on the pot on the turn because I knew I was vunerable, if not beaten already, but I would've expected a reraise here if he'd made a better hand, he wanted to get me so bad he wouldn't slowplay it. It did look weak though. I couldn't check the turn and let him take the initiative and his call let me know I was still ahead. It took a while on the river but based on his tilt level and the size of the bet I made the call.

Ste05

Good call and good reasoning, WP