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Where's the jobs???

  • 14-10-2005 11:15am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭


    http://www.rte.ie/business/2005/1014/engineering.html

    Does anybody else think that this is a load ogf bull****? ICT Ireland, IBEC and IEI keep whinging about there being a huge shortage of IT grads.

    Then when their member companies are looking for staff they are looking for 2 years plus experience.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Especially liked the bit in paragraph three where they estimated an impending 12% deficit in Graduate Unicorn handlers for the period from 2010-2015.

    These guys are clearly idiots, all academics I would think, degrees, masters and doctorates coming out of their tweed-clad arsehol*s, never had an actual honest job - and not a valid idea or opinion between the lot of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    Generally I don't read the tech news, perhaps I should, but does anybody ever come out and question this cráp?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Sposs


    The colleges are putting that message out in the media simply to encourage people to sign up for their courses ,nothing more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Imposter


    They should probably also mention the fact that after graduating you'll probably end up working in a call centre and earning a lot less than anyone who left school early to take up a trade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭finlma


    There are loads of unfilled IT roles at the moment but the problem is companies are looking for experienced people and not grads. I've 3 years experience and when I recently returned to Ireland I had a pick of jobs to choose from.

    Still IT sucks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    The Institute of Engineers of Ireland is an interest group representing engineering professionals and engineering firms in this country. Mostly firms seeing as they're the ones with the money/power.

    It is a bit hypocritical of these firms, through their interest group, to be saying that there is not enough grads when those same firms will not give grads a break.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    The Institute of Engineers covers IT now? I thought that they were old school engineers only?

    Or maybe I'm getting my wires crossed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    It's not just IT and engineering either. I notice that the article mentions biotechnology and the pharmaceutical industry too. Articles like these appear in the media very regularly. The idea being that more people will encouraged to take the courses in college as industry is "crying out" for graduates :rolleyes: The result is loads of graduates competing for a small number of graduate positions. Market forces then mean that employees can treat and pay the graduates how they like.

    What is outrageous about all of this is the role of the media in spreading this propaganda. Journalists are either too lazy/stupid or too biased to tell the other side of the story and instead just act as mouthpieces for the likes of IBEC.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,560 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    It's a complete load of arse, on so many levels.

    The phrase 'knowledge-based economy' just makes me tick off yet another entry on my buzzword-bingo card.

    The real shortage in the future will be of Doctors and trained medical personnel. It's unbelievable that the number of doctors allowed to be trained per year in this country was capped at around 500 back in 1974.


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