Where to find Accounting Jobs

kluivert

Does anyone who where or any websites that is good for accounting jobs

Trainee positions in the north east.

Greatly appreciated.

Mighty_Mouse

closing date for application on aca was 30th september. you might have to wait til next year.

get a list of accounting firms and email everyone of them with your CV.
follow that up with calls

kluivert

Am ready registered with ACCA and i have been working in practice for the last 18 months with a degree in accounting and finance. I am sitting my final ACCA exams in Dec 05.

And i was wondering what are the best sites in order to look up for part qualified/trainnee accounting jobs for the north east.

madramor

kluivert wrote:

Am ready registered with ACCA and i have been working in practice for the last 18 months with a degree in accounting and finance. I am sitting my final ACCA exams in Dec 05.

you might have trouble getting another job if you don't have a valid
reason for leaving your current position because,

you are jumping ship after your current employer sent time and money
getting you trained.
other accounting companies might not want to employ a person who
they think will leave without giving anything back to the compnay.

Kinetic^

madramor wrote:

you might have trouble getting another job if you don't have a valid
reason for leaving your current position because,

you are jumping ship after your current employer sent time and money
getting you trained.
other accounting companies might not want to employ a person who
they think will leave without giving anything back to the compnay.

Thats a load of crap. He's been there for 18 months, not 18 minutes.

He's been taking for a ride for the past 18 months with the money he's been earning from them.

Kluivert, I'd wait till after you get your results and then jump ship. At least then you'll be qualified.(fingers crossed)

kluivert

Keyzer

Cheers lad,

I am not happy with the Study package i am getting half of what everyone else is getting in regards to days off etc. I recently received a survey from the ACCA which i filled in last April. The Avg wages is 15.5k for my area am well under that and study leave norm is 6 days per exam am getting 4 while my friends in similiar practices are getting 7.5 days.

So i would grateful if anyone has tips as to where is the best place to look for accounting jobs.

Sposs

www.thepanel.com

kluivert

Thanks for that.

Dublin seems to be the only place in which you can get a decent accounting job that pays well and the benefits are good as well.

Dublin is somewhere i wouldnt work in. I wouldnt rule it out totally but i cant see many advantages apart from the money.

madramor

Keyser Soze 69 wrote:

He's been taking for a ride for the past 18 months with the money he's been earning from them.

he knew what he was getting into, they didn't force him to work for them.

he looked around and saw others getting a better deal than him and
decided he wanted a better deal.

trainee accountants make s**t money, when they qualify it improves and
they are expected to give back to the firm that trained them.

people jumping ship after getting all they can from the company will not
be wanted by other companies because they think the person will always
do the same.

Ask your boss he'll tell you this, i don't think you being a trainee accountant
has any knowledge of how company bosses think, operate.

Carb

That last comment has to be one the most ridiculous things I've ever read. I began my training in practice also, and I often got sight of the fees that were been charged for my work. In one instance the firm charged a client €5000 for my weeks work when I was getting paid about €300p/w. The second practice I worked in was charging my services at €60 per hour when I was getting paid €10 per hour. While they are perfectly entitled to do so, to say that you owe them something when you qualify is insane. The fact is that each practice has different levels of work for differenct levels of experience, and they need trainee accountants for the more mundane tasks. Any of the practices I've worked in, it's been the unofficial policy that you leave when you qualify, to make room for the next trainee, unless the practice was expanding rapidly and they needed to increase the amount of qualified accountants.

Kluivert - My advice would be, keep your eye on the bigger picture. I always took the view that if I'm getting poor money, I need to get great experience. I'm on my 5th job in 5 years, although two of these I had no choice due to redundancy etc. There was never an expectancy from my employer that I should stay on because I owe them. In fact, I still get great references from 1 practice I worked in for 12 months, and that was three years ago.

Best of luck with the job hunting.

kluivert

Cheers Carb,

I like the practice that i work in - just feel that they could losen the pocket a wee bit.

The experience i am getting here is first class i have to admit. Great learning experience from all angles - auditing, accounting, taxation, company sectarial, administration, vat, payroll and other stuff.

But my objective is to qualify - secondary objective is gaining the experience. At the moment i am getting all the experience but not getting a chance to complete my exams the way others are.

I am going to stick it out here and talk to the partners to see if we can come to some arrangement in regards to study leave considering it is my finals in December.

What that tit said in regards to jumping ship - One word of advise ok - in this world you have to look after number one - no one else will otherwise you ll be at the back of the queue for the rest of your life. The orginal question was a request for websites that recruit trainee accoutants - instead you contribute rubbish criticism that adds no value to this trend and wastes your own time - well done.

nesf

Keep it civil guys, I think you both have good points. There's no need to be condescending. There's truth in both views, you do need to pay heed to both.

"Jumping ship" too often can get you into to trouble if companies think you have no loyalty. Though I don't see a trainee leaving to qualify as this.

The "the only person you look out for is number one" attitude will work against you if you hold to it strictly. You need to look out for your career yes, but keeping a weather eye on your company doesn't cost you much and can leave a good impression with employers. Good references are damn handy.

madramor

1:
You seem to have a problem understanding:
If you want a new job its the future employers opinion
that is important not yours.

Points:
A:
You agreed to a deal now you want to change the deal
(as stated by you)
B:
You don't care about the company you will work for only your self
(as stated by you)
C:
Your very immature

kluivert wrote:

What that tit said

Now try and imagine you are a prospective employer, do you think
you would employ this type of person above.

2:

kluivert wrote:

in this world you have to look after number one - no one else will otherwise you ll be at the back of the queue for the rest of your life.

i'm sorry you developed this attitude, you must have had a hard life.
i have been helped by many people in my life so far and in return
have helped many people.
Talk to your bosses, in business you have to rely on the help of others,
most small\medium contracts are awarded by word of mouth information.
ie(one of your clients helps you by saying you are a good company etc..)

kluivert wrote:

instead you contribute rubbish criticism

here is another example of this "everybody is out to get me" attitude,
i was just offering you some advise based on the facts and my experience
and you think that I was attacking you in someway.

Please note this is not a critism or attack:
I think that you should look at getting some Counselling to help with
your self confidence and paranoia

3:

kluivert wrote:

that adds no value to this trend and wastes your own time - well done.

if you felt that, the best way to respond, would be ignore it and
say nothing

kluivert

My apolaogises to all parties who where offended. I meant no dis-regard or offense.

My views are very one sided and being able to listen to others is infact very important.

I understand the point clearly that is being made. It may appear that jumping ship can be viewed as a negative issue with future employers. After all the first question going to asked in the interview is why did you leave your previous employment? You agree.

My point is why does very thing have to remain constant. In the last 18 months i have seen salarys for graduates employed in dublin shoot up 25-30%. While back at home there has been little or no change.

Salary is not what is important to me at the moment. Getting my exams are though. I would like to be a the same playing as everyone else, thats why i think the ACCA should have standard study days leave. This is left totally with the employers.

My friend from college went to her managers about exam leave she was getting the same deal as me. (We both started in practice straight after college. Shes based in Dublin.) She got it increased from 4 days per exam to 7.5 days per exam. Her salary went up 30% because the trainees that where starting a year after her where starting on a higher salary than her.

If she didnt speak up when she did, she reckons that she would still be getting the same salary as she was which lower be lower than the graduates and less study leave days as well.

My intial inquiry was if anyone was aware of any websites that recruit accountants.

Again i am sorry for the annoyance caused by poor replies to others suggestions.

nesf

madramor wrote:

Please note this is not a critism or attack:
I think that you should look at getting some Counselling to help with
your self confidence and paranoia

In fairness that is a very large assumption to be making mate. Please don't try to diagnose or analyse people on here. You should know better. I understand that you mean it in a good way but it should have been a subtle PM not tagged onto the end of that post.