New Orleans police brutality

MrJoeSoap

Just caught the actual video on News2. It is actually sickening, if anyone has a clip to the incident please post it. It is important that people actually see that this happens.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,23889-1819665,00.html

Was particularly disturbed by the line:

"But New Orleans police have been working under stressful conditions since the hurricane."

Any sort of excuse offered for this is a disgrace. Do they not think the guy being beaten had suffered too? He was 64 ffs, and there were three officers. And to top it all off, the officer setting on the producer was just insane.

*Furious* :mad:

whiskeyman

Just another case of police brutality in the US..... this one just happened to be caught on tape.
Article and clip here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4328048.stm

Karoma

Alternative Link to video footage

tj-music.com

To have power is to abuse it - the cops should all go to jail for that

MrJoeSoap

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,172574,00.html

There is a link on that page to an interview with Robert Davis done by *shudder* Bill O'Reilly *shudder*. He comes across very well and claims he hasn't drank or taken drugs in 25 years.

Dyr

I see a cop punching a guy who's apparently resisting arrest, the video shows nothing else so i dont see what the big deal is

I think you should bear in mind that the NOPD have gone through, many lost their homes and had the people they're protecting try to kill them while working round the clock, its not suprising that dude snapped at some journo who decided that he had the right to an interview.

whiskeyman

Bambi wrote:

I see a cop punching a guy who's apparently resisting arrest, the video shows nothing else so i dont see what the big deal is

I think you should bear in mind that the NOPD have gone through, many lost their homes and had the people they're protecting try to kill them while working round the clock, its not suprising that dude snapped at some journo who decided that he had the right to an interview.

Wow... I never saw it that way.
Thanks for that... in fact, they should have taken out their guns and shot him in each kneecap to make sure he would resist arrest any further.... :rolleyes:

Dyr

No, y'see that would be an overeaction. From looking at that clip theres no way the furore around it is justified, All we can see is that the guy got punched in the back of the head a few times, we can't see if he'd did anything to warrant that or not, he definitely resists arrest on the ground though. Either way, its hardly rodney king all over again.

I think the real seller for the media is the cop bending one of their own backwards over a car and telling him where to shove his journo card. Apart from being a crime against humanity in the medias eyes, that makes for good television

Interesting note is that in the first viewing the cop appears to be throwing very slow "soft" punches and then on replay its much faster looks more violent. Whether they slowed it down or sped it up i dunno, but it just shows how easy it is to manipulate footage to influence peoples reaction

bonkey

Bambi wrote:

No, y'see that would be an overeaction.

Right...but the treatment of the journo was perfectly justified? And you have no problems with police beating old men?

Interesting note is that in the first viewing the cop appears to be throwing very slow "soft" punches and then on replay its much faster looks more violent. Whether they slowed it down or sped it up i dunno, but it just shows how easy it is to manipulate footage to influence peoples reaction

You don't know whether it was soft or violent, but you've already decided it wasn't an overreaction and wasn't really a problem....

Thats objective of you.

jc

Dyr

So which incident is causing the outrage here, the guy being punched or the journo being shoved around? they are seperate incidents. Obviously the cop loosing it with the journo is in the wrong.

I dont seen any police beating old men, i see a cop throwing three punches into the back of some guys head, who later on resists arrest. Whether he did anything to warrant being punched i dont know and neither do you. BTW a 65 year old is just as capable of pulling a knife or a trigger as anyone else. Maybe you should watch that clip of a vietnam vet executing a cop while he screams for mercy to figure out why american cops dont take any messing when it comes to refusal to comply with their instructions, their life can depend on it

MrJoeSoap

Bambi wrote:

Maybe you should watch that clip of a vietnam vet executing a cop while he screams for mercy to figure out why american cops dont take any messing when it comes to refusal to comply with their instructions, their life can depend on it

WTF? That has nothing to do with this...

Bambi wrote:

BTW a 65 year old is just as capable of pulling a knife or a trigger as anyone else.

Everyone is capable of pulling out a knife or gun, doesn't mean everyone deserves to be beaten, least of all a 64 year old. I seriously hope you don't think that the police beating a 20 year old is the same as the police beating a 64 year old, however wrong they both may be.

As for the guy who said the NOPD have been through a lot with the hurricane etc... BS. The ordinary folk have had it just as tough.

Dyr

WTF? That has nothing to do with this...

It has a lot to do with it. Most cop killers in the states said that the deciding factor in their actions was that the police officer was not in control of the situation. Which is why not complying with cops instructions is a bad idea over there, they will take control of situation one way or the other because they know not doing so might have dire consequences


As for the guy who said the NOPD have been through a lot with the hurricane etc... BS. The ordinary folk have had it just as tough.

I think thats ridiculous, the police dealt with everything that ordinary joes had such as loosing their homes etc AND went out risking their lives trying to put some semblance of order on the situation, most of em were worked off their feet in what amounted to a combat zone.

Like i said all i can see in that video is a cop punching a guy three times during the course of making an arrest, and the same guy resisting arrest on the ground. Its odd that people think that's enough to make claims of police brutality or even a beating. Maybe this was a case a police brutality but the video clip isnt nearly enough to be conclusive on way or another. However media trials dont require a burden of evidence :rolleyes:

Hobbes

Well what I saw from the full clip was..

1 cop punching the head off an already restrained old age prisoner. Another cop trying to hide the abuse with a horse. A cop attack a press reporter when questioned and another cop beating the head off the prisoner while on the ground and fully restrained and not resisting.

Oh and I can also see a pool of blood around the body on the ground.

Is that evidence enough?