deposit refund on beverage containers

Mercy Katharine

In Ireland every yeat there are +/- 500 million cans and +/- 300 million plastic bottles sold . only 5 - 7 % of plastic bottles recovered for recycling and around 20% of cans ,Repak are given figures to recover and when they reach them they stop and the majority that is left are landfilled .

in Europe and the USA deposit refund / incentives to recycle have gained 85%+ on tthese products .

how many bottles and cans do you see thrown on our streets ?

if there was a value on them - would they be thrown there ?

industry has long been threatned with producer responsibility - but still it is the consumer that pays .

your views on this would be appreciated

additional information will be posted on request

greglo23

100% agreement. this needs to be introduced asap.

Mercy Katharine

also in othercountries this system was used to raise funds for schools , much needed funds i add , charities - is it not easier on the mind to donate empty bottles and cans to raise money for a charity ?

why do we always implement a dozen usless ways to do something and eventually end up doing it right when europe fines us for wasting time and not acheiving targets .

too much money being lost from the working mans pocket through tax on products to protect industries responsibilities .

Capt'n Midnight

In Sweden? they have a machine with barcode scanner. You dump the bottles in and it gives you the deposit back. It can cope with different sizes and different brands with different amounts.

If the manufactureres don't do it then the gov't could do something like the Plastic Bag levey. Charge it on all new bottles with a refund when recycled.

Mercy Katharine

they have those machnes in 13 of the 28EU member states , when you look at the board in Repak , they are the directors o Coke , C&C , Tesco , Batchelors and other big pagkaging firms . their firms pay them in repak to guarantee recovery , but it does not happen .

repak.ie check out photo gallery and board / directors

as always we have the cash bled out of the system before decisions are properly made

then we the people are made pay yet again for the proper way

Mercy Katharine

repak wont support a deposit refund scheme in Ireland , basically because it means less money in their back pocket , and more in the peoples

:eek:

Mercy Katharine

Plastics Ireland, a sector organisation within IBEC, has highlighted the fact that businesses that use used plastic bottles as a raw material are forced to import them from abroad because Ireland does not have effective collection and recycling facilities.

Each year millions of plastics bottles are being sent to landfill, which could be used by Irish businesses if the proper infrastructure was in place.

Gerry Farrell, Director of Plastics Ireland - the organisation which represents the plastics processing industry in Ireland - has called on Dublin City Council to introduce a collection system which will allow the general public recycle plastic bottles in the city.

Mr Farrell said - "It is absurd that approximately 550 million bottles are being sent to landfill each year, while - at the same time - businesses who could use these products are importing used plastic bottles from Europe. 'There has been a major increase in the recycling of plastic bottles throughout the country, but Dublin city - which accounts for 30% of all plastic bottle consumption - remains a problem area."

There are 800 million plastic bottles placed on the Irish market each year. It is estimated that in 2005, approximately 30% of all bottles will be collected for recycling. There has been fantastic progress in collection rates for plastic bottles - in 2001 approximately 1.5% of bottles were collected, but this has risen to 30% today. In effect, this means that approximately 250 million bottles will be collected for recycling this year. " Check these figures , when published , what is recovered has been paid to be recovered by the public not industry !"

"The lack of collection of plastic bottles in Dublin has resulted in the unnecessary using up of landfill. There has also been a lack of investment in reprocessing and recycling infrastructure, as the number of bottles collected is too small to make such infrastructure viable" - said Mr Farrell.

" estimated " what estimate ever was met in this country

azi

ellicro wrote:

Plastics Ireland, a sector organisation within IBEC, has highlighted the fact that businesses that use used plastic bottles as a raw material are forced to import them from abroad because Ireland does not have effective collection and recycling facilities.

ISTR, back when the last glass recycling plant in Ireland closed, they said that it wasn't viable as a commercial business due to the small market...

Mucco

azi wrote:

ISTR, back when the last glass recycling plant in Ireland closed, they said that it wasn't viable as a commercial business due to the small market...

Surely it could be made viable by incentives through taxation. A deposit scheme is a complete no-brainer, and no piloting is required as it works successfully in many other countries.

Mercy Katharine

from personal investigation , there is a closed group involved in recycling in Ireland , look up repak.ie check out pictures and board of directors , consisting of coca cola , c&c , tesco , batchelors , the people who produce pay themselves to recover it , the anual figures of "packaging waste" also include cardboard , plastic wrapping , plastic bottles and cans , high rates of cardboard recovery pump up "Packaging" really one way non refillable beverage ontainers should be a seperate category from packaging , but the powers that be know if they are classed as a seperate category the levels are so low that we would again be in the european courts , 550 million plastic bottles either landfilled or burned , dumped on our streets costing us more to have cleaned up .

if there was a deposit refund on them would the be landfilled / dumped ?

imagine the benefit to charities / schools and other groups who could benefit from the refund if it was there ?

next time you walk our streets , count the cans bottles you see thrown around , and imagine :eek:

Snowball

ellicro wrote:

In Ireland every yeat there are +/- 500 million cans and +/- 300 million plastic bottles sold . only 5 - 7 % of plastic bottles recovered for recycling and around 20% of cans ,Repak are given figures to recover and when they reach them they stop and the majority that is left are landfilled .

in Europe and the USA deposit refund / incentives to recycle have gained 85%+ on tthese products .

how many bottles and cans do you see thrown on our streets ?

if there was a value on them - would they be thrown there ?

industry has long been threatned with producer responsibility - but still it is the consumer that pays .

your views on this would be appreciated

additional information will be posted on request

I 100% agree.
an incentive would be a great idea. At least if the ppl who bought the bottles and cans did not recycle maybe someone else would if there was money in it.