Looks like they're finishing the missing link!

unkel

The new Outer Ring Road between the N7 and N4 had a missing link of about 100 meters in Lucan south for a long time due to some, let's politely call them ehhrr, protesters :rolleyes:

A lot of activity in the last week or so. Anybody know when it will open? Any other information is much appreciated

murphaph

No information about this stretch but I know the original proposal to extend the ORR beyond Lucan over the Liffey Valley to connect to Blanchardstown Road South have been deleted from the Fingal County Development Plan (so, eh, it's not really a ring road, more a local distributor road now).

Fingal Co Co believe to build it now would be very foolish as any crossing of the Liffey Valley with such a close proximity to the Westlink (toll) will be a car park from the moment it opens, which is probably true so long as folk are charged for crossing the westlink.

They have amended the development plan to include a new green field road from the Leixlip interchange on the N4/M4 (beside Weston) to connect to the (currently) last roundabout on the Ongar Road (heading west). I believe also that the Liffey Valley is shallower here and easier to bridge than further east. This road will also serve the SDZ at Hansfield and is probably the way to go alright.

No idea on construction dates though.

Capt'n Midnight

http://adamstown.southdublin.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=97&Itemid=40

What is the Adamstown Link Road?

The Adamstown Link Road is a 2.1km road with bus lanes and footpath/cycleways that will connect Adamstown to the Outer Ring Road. The development also includes the realignment of part of the R120 Newcastle Road and construction of a new vehicular bridge across the Dublin-Kildare railway, the closure of Hayden's Lane to vehicular traffic and construction of an alternative route (the Hayden's Lane Access Road), and associated landscaping and drainage works.

Planning permission for the Adamstown Link Road was granted by An Bord Pleanala in July 2005. Construction work is expected to start during autumn 2005 and will take 12-18 months to complete.

No it's not the road you are talking about but it means another 10,000 houses will be connected directly to the outer road.

How many people will live in Adamstown?
Based on projected household occupancy rates, it is estimated that Adamstown may eventually be home to between 20,000 and 25,000 people.

WFT - The Average Irish Family is bigger than the 2+2.1 accross the pond, but lets say it is 4.1 and lets say that the figure of 25,000 is correct. Then it's 4,838 families and 5162 single people. (if it's only 20,000 then only 3225 families are needed provided that only single pople occupy 2/3rd's of the households.
Actually because of house prices I'd reckon that many homes will be owned by DINKIES and don't forget families need to drop kids off to school and already 80% of the workers in Lucan/Clondalkin area comute outside it for work. So I'd call the 20,000 - 25,000 figure more like the number of car journies each morning rather than the number of inhabitants.

BTW: the lane closing will add 20 minutes to my commute based on previous temporary closures - the only good news is they aren't allowed to build more than 1,000 houses until the railway station is opened. ( I really don't believe that will be enforced - people in Lucan have been promised a train station for the last 30 years )

just trawling through www.sdcc.ie

A Dub in Glasgo

Planning permission has already been given for the new Adamstown train station. the whole idea of Adamstown is to have facilites in the locality such as schools to cut down on the school run.

Capt'n Midnight

http://www.sdublincoco.ie/index.aspx?pageid=22&deptid=12&dpageid=153

Outer Ring Road phase 11
Phase 2 Adamstown, Lucan to N4
Project Description
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Present Position: Work started on 1st September 05.

more info on the page

Next phase will link it to the N81

spacetweek

I still think it's really stupid not having a link somewhere between Lucan Village and Clonsilla. The road to the west is a bit too out of the way to count. In this day and age to get from Lucan to Castleknock, for example, you still have to use the Strawberry beds, a road that is little more than a winding country lane.

I suppose though it's true that the ORR would probably be a car park if you completed the missing middle section, as M50 drivers tried to dodge the toll en masse.

seamus

spacetweek wrote:

I suppose though it's true that the ORR would probably be a car park if you completed the missing middle section, as M50 drivers tried to dodge the toll en masse.

As you say, the volume of drivers skipping the toll bridge would skyrocket. So before they could link the N4 and N3 using the ORR, there would need to be a major overhaul of the N4 interchange to allow for the increased flow of traffic coming westbound (N4) and northbound (M50).

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of brown envelopes coming out of NTR's offices to delay any kind of competition to the toll bridge anyway.