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Girly Problem

  • 03-10-2005 2:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Sorry to gross you all out, (especially the gentlemen)

    I'm too embarrased to log in for this one.
    I would possibly post it on a medical board but I didn't see one, plus I've been to 2 separate docs about this & they all say it's normal.

    I'm 25 & although a small amt of discharge down below is normal day by day, about 2-3 yrs ago mine got pretty heavy & has remained that way, to the extent that I have to wear a pad every day or i'm soaked!!!

    I don't think a healthy 25 yr old wearing a bloody nappy every day is normal!

    It's clear in colour, smells normal, it's not thrush, it's not itchy or anything like that, it's just V wet, V annoying & V embarrasing.

    I feel like an old incontinent biddy who has to wear a pad everyday & it's really starting to get me down especially as I've just started to see someone & it's only a matter of time before he starts to explore that region.

    It'll then be too embarrasing to wear a pad, too unhealthy to wear a tampon (plus what is it, the longest running period ever!!!) & too uncomfortable to go without.

    Has anyone experienced anything like this & have you any suggestions for trying to clear it up, or suggestions for living / coping with it.

    It's really getting me down now so all comments welcome, again sorry for the subject matter.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    I personally don't think it's normal. But this is not a medical board. I'm going to pre-empt Beruthiel here and close this thread.

    I'd also advise another trip to the GP with a request perhaps for a consultant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    squirm! get ye to a doctor quick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Tr0ubled has already stated she has been to the dr infact two of them already.

    Looks like neither of them (wonder if they were male) explain that you just seem
    to be Tr0ubled naturally well lubricated or over lubricating.

    Some womens are drier then others, some are moist and some are just wet.

    http://www.coolnurse.com/vagina.htm
    The vaginal walls are continually producing secretions necessary to provide lubrication, to cleanse the vagina, and to maintain the proper acidity to prevent infection. You will notice during different part of your menstrual cycle that your vaginal discharge will vary. Your bartholin glands produce that lubrication.

    There are lot of women out there with highly active Bartholin glands.
    Believe it or not regular sex or masturbation may help as it can cause the
    glads to empty themsleves. You do have to be careful watch your fluid intake
    and take precaustions. Wearing a panty liner is not such a big deal,
    if you going to end up being intimate with some one you can always
    excuse yourself to the bathroom and remove it before hand.

    Your wetness is not that rare or odd just it is one of those female body taboos that doesnt get talked about as women are not ment to be
    sweaty and messy :rolleyes: .

    There has been more investigations medically about deal with the lack of
    activily of the bartholin glands then them being over active.

    Over active bartholin glands can be a sign that there is a problem with your
    imune sytem, could be as simple as having to not wear nylon underwear or that some thing is causing an irration or that your imune system is sensative,
    or it could be PSAS .

    If you are not happy and it is impacting badly on you then go back to
    your Dr and request that s/he make a Gyn appointment for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 607 ✭✭✭malico


    A doctor may not be the best port of call. You shoudl go see a gynocologist or the Well Woman clinic.

    Some women do just have heavy dischage during their cycle, however, all the time is not normal. See the OBGYN dept of your local medical facility and that shoudl sort you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    dudara wrote:
    I personally don't think it's normal. But this is not a medical board. I'm going to pre-empt Beruthiel here and close this thread.

    I'd also advise another trip to the GP with a request perhaps for a consultant.


    Ditto^^, this aint allowed :o .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭Santa Claus


    Thaedydal wrote:
    Tr0ubled has already stated she has been to the dr infact two of them already.

    Looks like neither of them (wonder if they were male) explain that you just seem
    to be Tr0ubled naturally well lubricated or over lubricating.

    Suprisingly enough Thaed, they let male student doctors learn about womens bits and vice versa !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Endurance Man this thread was reopened to allow for dicussion of this PI.
    What is or is not normal is subjective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'm not sure why this thred was reopened but I'm glad it was.

    I'm not really looking for medical cures or whatever, I just want to know if there are many like me or how can you not let it annoy you so much.
    Basically if I get a lot of, no I'm honsetly not like that at all & it doesn't seem that normal then I'll know to make the visit to the doc again & demand not to get fobbed off.

    On both occasions it has been a female doc & in fairness, they haven't even looked. As you can imagine, it's a very embarrasing thing to talk about, to work up the courage to discuss it & then to be told there's nothing that can be done is horrible.

    Thaedydal, I found your info V helpful, thanks for putting in the effort.
    My periods have never been regular, maybe once every 2 months, then 6 weeks, then 9 weeks....., the fact that your link says that the amount of discharge can be related to the time in the cycle could be a starting point for me. As I don't have a cycle as such, the discharge levels don't know how to fluctuate so I'm just constantly soaked!

    Isn't it ridiculous that I have to post a thread to even get told the above, 2 trips to the doc & not a word!

    I definitely don't think it's PSAS, I'm not that lucky to enjoy myself that much!!!!

    I only wear cotton knickers, never helped! though I doubt wearing a pad all day every day allows down there to breathe enough, but what choice do I have. The docs don't seem to want to give any advice.

    & yes, I could pop to the loo just before anything happens, but I'm always worried that a loo won't be easily accessible, or it's obvious why I'm going to the loo, etc, etc, so all the time, how can I even begin to feel sexy with this going on.

    Thanks for all your help, really appreciated.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    it's not allowed if she is looking for medical advice, she's not, she's already been to two doctors, both of which have told her it's normal.
    it is normal, they just don't seem to have explained to her why or how.
    if you are looking for a proper, medical explaination for this, I would suggest on going back to your doctor and getting them to explain what exactly this is.
    however, Thaed has explained it quite well.
    This happens to all women to some extent, if they pay attention they would probably notice that the middle of the month it peaks, your bodies way of encouraging you to get pregnant. :)
    you seem to be well over active in this area compared to most women and I for one don't have any suggestions on how to 'fix' it or even if it's possible, again, maybe Thaeds suggestions will work.
    I don't understand why your doctor didn't talk you through this?
    What exactly did they say to you?
    did s/he have no suggestions whatsoever?
    did you go to a female doctor about this as a woman might be of more help to you here?

    oh and ferdi
    I don't know what you are finding so 'squirmy' - if a women you slept with didn't have this to some degree, you wouldn't be getting your todger very far in.... :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    Just tossing in an idea, more for my own enlightenment than anything else but:

    Possibly overactive gland/hormone spikes?


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭BEAT


    Id like to ask the original poster to send me a Pm please.
    Since its anon. I cant send her a pm myself but Id like to ask a few questions and offer some of my own knowledge if you would.
    thanks ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Coconut


    As you ask, no, I haven't ever heard of this before. (And I think its strange that the doctors you saw didn't even look? It must be a bit embarassing to talk about, but it does seem like it would be worth going back and, as you say, not letting yourself get fobbed off without them taking you seriously.)

    But you did ask for other options, besides tampons and pads. I would suggest looking into the MoonCup. I know, sounds daft, but its a silicone cup, worn internally. I think it sounds pretty interesting (don't be put off by the hippies on the site!).

    Hope this is some help!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    from my understanding the mooncup is more for periods, but I guess if uit's that bad it might be useful.

    just a suggestion to throw into the discussion, but if it seems to be related to irregularity of periods, then would perhaps the pill help to straighten out your cycle? this might possibly help you control it to some extent.

    again, OBGYN is the way to go methinks, if your doctor(s) not any help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Yip, been prescribed the pill a few times to try & regulate the periods. Didn't help the periods or the discharge.

    All the docs said was: oh, that's perfectly normal, many women experience it & there are lots of different pads to the market to offer you some comfort.

    That'll be €45 please, & thankyou V much!!!!!

    Jee, thanks!

    One doc checked for thrush, it was clear & she left it at that, no other explanations as to what causes it, etc, etc.
    Other doc didn't even check!

    Thankyou TurquoiseDream for your PM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    My attitude to this is, the wetter the better :D I'd say most guys would feel the same and wouldn't be turned off by this at all (quite the opposite in fact) As has already been stated it is perfectly healthy and normal. It is not an infection or thrush, it doesn't smell bad etc. Nothing to worry about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thanks BrianD3.

    When it comes to 'getting jiggy with it' (or whatever!!!!!) it's not really the fact that I'm wet that annoys me as I get what you're saying, it's more the fact that I have to wear a pad at all other times to feel comfortable & if I didn't have a chance to remove it when it'd come to the time for removing the undies he'd see the God-Awful pad.
    As I said before, it just makes me feel unattractive & like I'm wearing a nappy!!!!

    & as Ferdi said:- "squirm!"

    That's exactly my problem, I'm afraid the new guy will think so too. :o(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    When a doctor isn't giving you answers or clear explainations, push for more. You are paying E45 after all. I would have suggested a trip to a gynaecologist or urologist about this, there has to be some way of regulating it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    to OP:

    i just wanted to say that i have this problem too a little. it used to bother me but i guess now i'm in my twenties i'm just used to it. it started before i started my periods, around 11, and at that age talking to friends about it it seemed like a few people were having it, we even called it slime (ha!). one girl said she'd asked her mum about it and she'd said it was a normal thing that happens and means that you'll start getting periods soon. so we were all happy about that.

    it didn't have much to do with sex back then obviously, but once getting turned on started to be an issue, it got worse. i started my periods at 12, and had a tough time with them and went on the pill at 15, but my slime issues stayed with me. i remember being 12 or 13 and wearing tampons between periods so that i didn't mess up my knickers. the discharge is like egg whites mostly, and sometimes is thicker and sometimes is more watery.

    nowadays it still happens just as much as before, but i think i've learned a little more about my body. as far as i can tell, a lot of its got to do with being turned on, and can happen at all stages in my cycle (whether i'm on the pill or otherwise). most days its ok, just a little discharge, and if its thick it means yr just turned on and havent done much about it. if i've masturbated or been sexually active it tends to be more watery (i think this has somethign to do with female ejaculation and g spots and so on). sometimes the day after i've been.. busy, i can get a sudden flush of liquid, which can be quite uncomfortable, even if no one else notices.

    although, and this is the strange part, if i've had particularly satisfying sex (note sex and not eh, self satisfaction, for some reason) it tends to dry up for a while. so i take this as being my bodys mysterious way of telling me i should have more good sex.

    in my experiance, i've never had a problem with this and men, i imagine most guys are pretty happy to reach down below and find that yr really wet, makes them think they're doing a good job.

    anyway, i wanted to let you know that i don't think its that strange, assuming yr problem is the same one i'm describing. you could try pelvic floor excercises and all the rest, i have but they haven't made any difference. i've had smear tests and std tests and everything and no doctor has ever told me anything was wrong. i think in general its fine, and maybe even preferable. are you wearing pads because you actually get really wet like watery, or just because its kind of icky?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭Shewhomustbe...


    You could be suffering from an infection. I didn't read in your posts that you've had a smear test to rule this possibility out.
    I found this excerpt in Women’s Bodies, Women’s Wisdom by Dr. Christiane Northrup (which I HIGHLY recommend all women should have a copy of) dealing with vaginal infections and their symptons.

    "Chronic Vulvar Dampness:
    The vulva sweats more than any other place in the body, especially when a woman is emotionally stressed. Thus, wearing restrictive, non-absorbent, synthetic clothing close to the skin in the vulvar area can set up chafing and subsequent infection. This is especially true if a woman exercises in this type of clothing."

    While I know you said you don't wear such underwear the fact that this only started a couple of years ago makes me think the first line could be more appropriate in your case.
    Although this book is obviously medically based, it is written by a female doctor that prefers for her patients to look within themselves and at their lives to find (what is usually) the real cause of the problem (once any serious medical cause has been ruled out)
    Was there a significant event or change in your life before this "problem" started for you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Illegal Alien


    Gynochologist tbh....I mean, if it's to the extent you have to wear a pad every day...something is not right. I would advise you to get a referell to a gyno, call her inadvance, or send her a letter, possibly from your doctor, detailing exactly what is happening, when it started, when its better, when its worse...and minute details you can think of. This will give the gyno a oppertunity to research in advance, ask around, whatever, but I wouldn't leave untill I got answers. Get checked for everything under the sun...dont wait for them to suggest it, tell them that you want a complete check.

    Good luck.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hi guys, thanks for all your comments.

    It's not so bad: I don't think my situation is exactly like yours. As I said, I'm 25, been having my periods since I was 13, been sexually active since I was 17 but this problem only started 2-3 yrs ago. It never changes, it's never different, never wetter or dryer than the day before, consistency changes briefly now & again, but there's no real pattern to it. It's no different before a period, after a period, after a shag, if I hadn't had a shag for some time. I was on the pill for quite some time before this happened so it wasn't it that sparked it off.
    & Yes, I wear pads because I got really wet. Just out of curiosity, I didn't wear a pad on Sunday, My knickers were soaked through in a matter of hours.

    Here's the funny thing, it doesn't really happen when I've been out on the tear!!! Maybe it's Gods way of telling me I should be loaded more often!!!!!

    Shewhomustbe...: I have had a smear since this started & everything came back clear, my symptoms haven't changed since then but I am about due another smear. (Though last 2 times I paid the doc for a check up & asked if I could have a smear they (2 different docs) said they hadn't time & I'd have to come back some other time (& pay again!!)
    Does anyone else think I have crap docs or is it just me???
    Also, no, there wasn't any event that could have triggered this off that I'm aware of. I live a V ordinary life, don't generally get stressed, I just take everything in my stride. 3-4yrs ago I travelled Oz for the year & we all know how hot Oz is. I didn't have the problem then, that's why I know it only started occuring since then. If my vulva wasn't over sweating in Oz, could our really tropical Irish climate be causing it to sweat????

    But yes, I think a trip to the gynae clinic is called for, thanks to all who suggested it. You can see why I'm sceptical though as I get fobbed off time & time again where I'm from, I've a V busy job with a lot of responsibility so taking time off when I feel I'll get nowhere isn't that appealing.

    Will the gynae clinic also do the smear for me or will they just make me go to the doc for that as they couldn't be bothered?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    i reserve my right to squirm, if any chicks out there had an encounter with a cat who's wang smelled of rotting meat, i'm shure they'd do the same.

    OP, having said that if the guy actually cares for you he'll be understanding and help you through it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Jeez Ferdi!!!!!!

    Who said anything about rotting meat???????
    It smells clean, the same as it ever did, it's just wetter than I think it should be.
    The being wet bit with the fella isn't my problem, it's him possibly noticing that I'm wearing a pad.
    It's comments like your that has me feeling / thinking like I do! :0(


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    ferdi wrote:
    i reserve my right to squirm, if any chicks out there had an encounter with a cat who's wang smelled of rotting meat, i'm shure they'd do the same.

    take it somewhere else ferdi, we are not interested on how you feel.

    this forum is for people with helpful comments only, you're ignorance on this subject is showing and you can consider this a warning.
    B


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    consider me warned :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭Shewhomustbe...


    Tr0ubled wrote:
    (Though last 2 times I paid the doc for a check up & asked if I could have a smear they (2 different docs) said they hadn't time & I'd have to come back some other time (& pay again!!)
    That's absolutely ridiculous :eek: :mad:

    I'm glad the smear tests were all clear but it does then just leave the psychological and emotional aspects.
    Again quoting the book
    "For a true 'cure' of the problem, the emotional aspects of chronic vaginitis and vulvovaginitis must be looked at and worked through. This is not to say that the problem is just in these women's heads. What might have begun 'in the head' becomes physical. Studies have shown that many women with these infections have antibodies that work against their own immune and reproductive cells"

    Your body is reacting to something. Thankfully it is not physical so looking at other aspects of your life should help begin resolving the problem.
    Tr0ubled wrote:
    I've a V busy job with a lot of responsibility
    Do you allow yourself time to relax and recover from this responsibility?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Tr0ubled wrote:
    Here's the funny thing, it doesn't really happen when I've been out on the tear!!! Maybe it's Gods way of telling me I should be loaded more often!!!!!

    Its more likely that your body is telling you its dehydrated. Alcohol dries your body out, so you get a headache, dry mouth, sore eyes etc. Its not suprising that other areas are drier after a night out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Just browsing the forum after not being hhere for ages so apologies for the late reply and bringing the topic up again.
    A visit to gynaecologist is in order alright - I had same prob 2 years ago - smears and all were normal but after about 9 months I got sick of it and instead of going to my normal GP for another 45euro I demanded that my dad refer me to gynaecologist (he's a GP - slightly embarassing conversation!) Turned out I had a cervical ectropion which is essentially harmless - the tips of the cervix are turned outwards and in some women it causes much greater amounts of normal discharge - which is clear, no smell but akward and embarassing!
    Your GP should be able to see it on speculum exam - most don't bother looking if you're young when doing the smear but the gynae definitely will!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thanks beenthereb4.

    I tried to make an appointment with the gynae clinic but unless I paid big bucks privately (which I can't afford) they wouldn't see me without being referred by a doctor.

    So, I made a list of all my symptoms like I described in this thread, wrote down all of your suggestions & even some possible cures that I'd googled & headed to a different Doc this morning.

    I told her I had a lot of discharge & wanted to know why. She did a smear test (which I was also there for) & because of what I said she had a proper look. She told me I had cervical erosion that no other doctor ever told me!!!

    I gave her my sheet with all the symptoms etc on it, she read through it & saw that I had mentioned a 'cervical ectropion'.

    She said that's exactly what you have. It's harmless, it's normal (for a lot of women), BUT the important bit:- it CAN be treated, but I'll probably have to wait for up to a year to get the procedure done.

    I've waited this long, I can wait another bit longer if there's an end in sight!
    Yipee!!

    Thanks to everyone & sorry to bring this thread back to the top of the list.


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