WEEE (what a mess!!)

BoneCollector

Ireland has handled this WEEE in a usual hap hazardous way,
by confusing the fk out of the irish people so as to confuse the issue.

is the WEEE a levy?
is it a tax?
is it a charge you are compeled to pay by eu law??
Should you pay it

Answer to all the above, NO!

The irish gov is confusing people by saying things in the media like..
"toys do not attract the WEEE levy" (ARGOS comes under fire)

Number 1, its NOT a leavy but they are trying to say it is by the above statement.

2) its not a charge that the public is suppose to pay

Article 20 of the EU directive clearly states that its is the PRODUCER that will fund this fund and the PRIVATE USER (public can avail of this service FREE)

3) this fund is suppose to be subscribed to and funded direct by the PRODUCER.
That fund in turn is suppose to be used exclusively for the purpose of recovery of "historical waste" old equipment.

However this whole drective thing is being destorted by the irish Gov and the WEE.
The fund is NOT being kept exclusively to fund the WEE producer recycle scheme because the GOV is creaming off 21% for local taxation??
why? is a envoiremental Charge being used to fund local taxation?

4) Retailers like dixons, curries, ARGOS lidle aldi who are retailers, are being classified by the irish WEE as PRODUCERS.
They inturn are being forced to pay the WEEE charge Directly from there pockets and not! the manufactures(producers)
That charge inturn is being passed directly on to the consumer as an EXTRA charge under the remit that this is a WEEE charge which the public are obligated to pay under the new regulation.(this is FALSE)
The Public is under NO! obligation whats so ever! to pay this by any law or EU regulation.

But have been fooled by the Irish GOV Propeganda that this is a levy which the irish public must pay, all this is untrue and a swindle on the part of the irish government to raise more income tax.

So.. why
is the private user (the public funding this schem and not the PRODUCER)
And why is this gov being allowed to use the fund to fund local taxation when its suppose to be use exlusively for cleaning up the Enviroment?
and Why is the public swallowing all this bull??

MorningStar

It's a bit hard to understand what you are saying or what you are basing your rant on.
Things I have noticed

1)There is confusion about what it applies to .
2)Some companies are not following the regulations correctly.
3)Media like Joe Duffy are spreading rumours and calling it a tax

Trying to answer some of your points
1)Any company that imports goods with their lables on it are considered producers and always have been AFAIK. Argos is a producer
2) the original idea was producers would pay, our government decided to do it this way for a while to make sure services are set up in this country. They cliam it will be removed and reduced over time
3)I believe it is a levy and has been stated as so the whole time. Either way common english use can allow be called a levy.

WHat is your problem paying? THe TV you watched as a kid wasn't recycled and now you pay for it along with your new telly.

BoneCollector

1st things 1st
im hilighting the issue with
and also trying to clarify with facts after investigating both dpt of env the weee register and the EU directive.

if you choose to believe all the bull you will just keep paying.

you choose what you do with this information

i would hope more people would pass this on and start putting pressure on the people resposible to sort this out.

i have also contacted a freelance journalist etc..
so i can say im doing my part to highlight this issue
what about you and anyone else reading this info..

i sent the EU a mail regarding this and they just washed there hands of it.

so the only people that are going to get this sorted will be anyone that has the correct information and uses it.

argos are not producers there retailer being classed as producers.

the directive is to make producers responsible for recovery of historical waste.
The private user(public) is not suppose to be paying this at any point
and its not a charge that can be legaly added at the till,
which as a point of Fact, the press release from the dpt of Env clearly stated

"YOU ARE PREVENTED FROM ADDING THIS CHARGE AT THE TILL ON A PRICE PREVIOUSLY QUOTED"

Taking this all on board there is no confussion
and forget any thing else you have heared

Fact.
its not a levy and not a tax on the public
fact
its not a charge that can be legaly imposed on you to pay at the till

fact
any WEEE cost IS! under the directive to be DISPLAYED as public information ONLY.

this means if you saw a tumble washer yesterday priced at 299 euros
and the EU directive came in to force today and the WEEE cost was 40 euros
what the retailer is compleled to do is put a sign up with the following informaiton...



TUBLEWASHER €299 inc(producer recycle fee €40)
this is to show how much the producer has been told it will cost to recycle this and is for information purposes only.

However what is happening in alot of cases is this....

TUBLEWASHER €299 +(producer recycle fee €40)
total €339

This is a mis representation of what the EU directive Actualy covers and is an ILEGAL extra cost to the consumer.

so the real question here is..

How do YOU respond to all of this or will we all just roll over like we always do and just pay these ilegal extra charges.

(information provided in this post is factual)

MorningStar

BoneCollector wrote:

1st things 1st
im hilighting the issue with

About your posts
1)Your two posts are really difficult to read.
2)You saying it is fact means nothing to most people. You need to provide links and say what you are basing this all on

I am none the wiser to what you are complaining about exactley. You don't like the fee for what reason?