Leaving college to go on the dole!

cormie

Ok, not that I'm planning to or anything, but I just started a furniture design course and because I haven't been claiming the dole for the past year, I'm not entitled to get an allowance for college. So if one were in financial difficulties the best option for them to take would be to quit college, go on the dole for a year and start the course again next year thus claiming an extra years benefit off the government. What a load of bull. :mad: :mad:

OfflerCrocGod

How? Would it be better for you to go and live on the street and become a mugger/nuisance? You obviously don't understand our social system and the point of it :rolleyes: The fact is that in the end you still finish your course and become productive as opposed to a homeless menace. What a waste of money; hang them! it's cheaper.....

DonkeyStyle \o/

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

You obviously don't understand our social system and the point of it :rolleyes:

Nor does our wonderful government.

It's so funny when you're penalized for not having been on the dole... maybe living off your savings while you're out of work, but oops! no tax credits!... but hey, lessons learned... claim everything you're entitled to whether you need it or not... pride is for chumps it seems.

Goodshape

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

How? Would it be better for you to go and live on the street and become a mugger/nuisance? You obviously don't understand our social system

Social welfare in this country is around €150/week last I checked. If you're living on the street or mugging people when you have that much cash there's something seriously wrong with you I think.

OP: do you need the financial assistence, or are your just pissed someone is getting something when you're not?

stag39

O/P get a student loan u muppet/scrounger

cormie

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

The fact is that in the end you still finish your course and become productive.....

Yes but if I was in financial difficulty, it would make more sense for me to quit, go on the dole and then get the benefit for my college term when I re-do the course next year. So they are basically indirectly encouraging people who may be in this position, to do that. So instead of giving you benefit when you are doing something productive (which is around the same amount as when you're on the dole), they want you to stop doing something productive and start doing nothing for a year, then you will be entitled to benefit when you start doing something productive again in a years time.

Ann Elk

The idea is that when you're working and planning to return to college, you should be saving up enough money to see you through college - or, alien concept to a lot of people her, so bear with me, - GET A JOB.

The back to education allowance is there to encourage people on the dole (who can't save the sums necessary) to go back to education so they can improve their lot. It's not there to keep students in drinking money. I worrk 24 hrs a week alongside my full-time degree and manage fine for money. Why should the government support you because you spent your wages on beer and clothes?

LegacyUser

get a job ffs!

stevenmu

Ann_Elk has it exactly right, the allowance is there to encourage people with no job and no prospects to gain new skills that will help them find employment and thus get off the dole. I think you'd find that if you just dropped out of college and tried to go on the dole you wouldn't get very much.

p.s. get a job !

Nightwish

a guy in my class dropped out of college, went on the dole for a few years (while working for cash in hand in a bar) just so he could get the back to education allowance

Dilly1

Christmas is coming guys.......


Have you ever noticed that at Crimbo you meet 5 people you like and 100
people you spent the last twelve months trying to avoid !!?.
Well what I do is, when they start yapping and saying things like
"Oh where are you now? what are you doing ??"
just say "Iam doing Nothing" "I am on the DOLE" (and SMILE )
And they wont bother you for the rest of the holidays. (works well with that annoying uncle and aunt and any other cousins that you dont want to be bothered by)

Salmon

Yeah, If I were you Id take the year out and draw the dole. The only reason I would say that is I have spent five years studying without any state aid, All my mates got grants (Seems Farmers automatically qualify for it, regardless of how much of the country they own). After my degree I had the descision to take a year out and draw the dole and then go back to finish a Masters, or to borrow the money and pay the fees myself. That was three years ago, I dont regret doin it but I regret still having to pay off the large loan I took out to cover the course. All my mates however are buying new houses and such. So I would advise you to take all the money the state is offering in the Back to education allowance. When you are finished studying you can give it all back to them in Income tax, stealth tax, VRT, Motor tax........................etc!

Binomate

cormie wrote:

Ok, not that I'm planning to or anything, but I just started a furniture design course and because I haven't been claiming the dole for the past year, I'm not entitled to get an allowance for college. So if one were in financial difficulties the best option for them to take would be to quit college, go on the dole for a year and start the course again next year thus claiming an extra years benefit off the government. What a load of bull. :mad: :mad:

That furniture design course wouldn't happen to be in Bray would it?

cormie

Binomate, it would indeed. Why do you ask? Do I know ya? hehe.

Ok, I understand about the fact it encourages people who are on the dole to go and get education alright. But that still doesn't dispute the fact it would make more sense if I was in financial difficulty to drop out, claim the dole and return in a years time.

Take Mr. X for example.
Mr. X is working on an entrepreneurial project and uses all his savings from his previous job to keep him going while the project is in development. Any monies made from this project go back into the project to fund it further, thus giving Mr. X no wage. Mr. X should have done the sensible thing and drawn the dole the minute he stopped working his previous job, but he didn't. Mr. X starts college with all his savings eaten up and is not entitled to nothing.

Moral of the story, take what you can when you can!

StupidLikeAFox

If you're going to do a project you should understand the risks, Mr.X should have prepared for all outcomes. Moral of the story is turn to the dole as a last ditch option.