Opinions wanted please.

topemployees

Link removed. Do not mention the company name on here. However we can discuss the situation. -nesf

<snip> generally employ people for 60 hour weeks at varying rates. In <snip>, static guards are on €9.71 an hours (after one years service), and supervisors and controllers are on €11.34. Whilst these seem above and beyond the JLC minimum, upon further examination they are not.
<snip> claim that whilst we are above the JLC minimum (€8.14 an hour for static guards with a years service), all our benifits (i.e bank holiday pay, overtime, unsocial hours allowance, sunday premium) is also built into it. This means that all these allowances equal €1.57. Now, I'm no genius but I doubt 9 bank holidays a year, 21 hours overtime a week, night allowance and sunday premium is equivalent to €90 a week. If you work a 60 hour week it means that you are doing 21!! hours overtime = €2.04 extra for the first 6 hours and €4.07 extra for the remaining 15 hours = €74. Add in shift allowance and Sunday premium and the eight hours for every bank holiday and I'd be surprised if it was less then the €90 we get.
A lot of people are worried about their hours being cut if they do anything to get their entitlements, and I don't blame them. But, when the Private Security Authority Act is enforced from this October on, I'm afraid the maximum a person is allowed to work is 48 hours a week. I've no doubt some people will say that you're being cut because of troublemakers, but the fact of the matter is <snip> won't be allowed to stay open if people are working over 48 hours a week.
Also worth mentioning are holidays. <snip> currently give 20 days a year, and you get 8 hours for each day. So if you work 60 hours a week, you can either take 4 weeks holidays and recieve only 40 hours pay, or take 3 weeks holidays at 56 hours pay. Either way, it isn't really good, is it? According to the Organisation of Working Time act, if you take a weeks holidays, you are legally entitled to pay "at the normal weekly rate" (which isn't 40 hours).
So as you can see, we are being left short. When our hours are cut, these shortages will become even more severe, and I wonder if people should go about getting their entitlements.

Any thoughts, opinions, suggestions. More on the situation than the website really. Cheers!

nesf

I've no issue with the situation being discussed, but please do not link to your site or mention the company involved.

Potential legal hassling there if the figures aren't excatly correct etc. I'd prefer to avoid that.

This situation can be discussed fine without the company name being mentioned though imho.

laoisfan

Hmmmmm does our Working Time Act (I forget the year) provide for situations such as working bank holidays and overtime (in general). I thought so, but I could be wrong.....

I say fair play to the workers standing up for their rights!! Hope it works out for them.

topemployees

Well as it turned out, ad in the paper about the meeting, article in the cork indo about it, people still gave up. At the start about 30 people joined up, straight away one guy went back with every detail about every meeting (we have naughty access to notes made by management). Towards the end, some of the guys who signed up day one went back with stuff that shouldn't have. I've learnt that people dont want to be helped, or value their job more than they're fellow workers rights. I congratulate people who came up first day and said they had no interest in unions. But, why would people join just so they could go back to management with every detail, every attempt that workers tried to negotiate a fair work environment???

topemployees

P.S Fair dues to the mod! Although I would prefer the web address to stay, I understand why it can't. (go on, let it on :-)