Baltars Head

Rev Hellfire

I'm curious as to the theories people have about what exactly who or what the six that baltar sees is.

I'm moving to the idea either a) baltar is himself a cylon or b) that six is in fact the god she goes on about. With b currently where my money is on.

Anyone got any other theories ?

Vokes

Well, i thought she was some sort of chip-in-his-head. But that theory has now been debunked.

Im now leaning towards her being a rogue Cylon projected into Baltars head by some other means that we don't know yet.

Or maybe its a human enemy (Zarek?) projecting the image into Baltar's head for their own purposes.

Praetorian

/me opens brain

He only had his head scanned so I would guess there is a possability that the chip is elsewhere in his body. Or a cylon in the fleet could be somehow remotely messing with his mind.

Another idea would be that she is an intelligent biological virus that can manifest itself in his mind to influence him. It's believable because the cylons do have experience with human cloning / dna etc

We know that the flesh and blood cylons are able to transmit data without any computers, so it's also possible they somehow modified baltar's brain to be able to receive the images of 6 from a distance.

Creepy stuff!

I think Baltar being a cylon is too simple. I wonder do the writers even know themselves at this stage?

Baltar was the bad guy in the original, so I think he'll end up betraying humanity in favour of the sexy six in his mind

Nuttzz

If she is a chip/virus how did she appear in that one episode when Adama etc could see her?

Perhaps she is an angel???

GerardKeating

Nuttzz wrote:

If she is a chip/virus how did she appear in that one episode when Adama etc could see her?

Because "there are many copies"

The one Adama saw was a different copy, as with the copy on Capricia.

ButcherOfNog

Praetorian wrote:

Baltar was the bad guy in the original, so I think he'll end up betraying humanity in favour of the sexy six in his mind

hmm, can't see that happening as its a tad predictable, tho i can't see him saving the day either. i've a feeling that hes becoming less central to the plot, and he'll come to a sorry end of his own making.

Johnny Storm

ButcherOfNog wrote:

... hes becoming less central to the plot, ....

I agree. But I'm hopeful that he will come back into focus more.
As someone posted earlier the writers were kind of overdoing it a bit recently (ala 24, X-files) in terms of pointlessly switching directions with Balthar. I'm hopeful they'll get their act together soon. Balthar is an excellnet charactor and is played by an excellent actor so he derserves no less.

jor el

Praetorian wrote:

Baltar was the bad guy in the original, so I think he'll end up betraying humanity in favour of the sexy six in his mind

Didn't he already do this at the beginning when his actions allowed Six to steal the defense grid codes?

As for what's in his head, or not, perhaps it is a projection. Then in the episode where others could see her maybe she was projecting into their minds too? It would explain how she just vanished off the ship without a trace. She was only there for a short time too, as Miss Godfrey, so perhaps she can't project into many peoples heads for very long.

He can't be a Cylon either as that would just be a cop-out.

ButcherOfNog

Baltar is just insane, none of the other cylons have ever mentioned him in anyway, 6 is in his head, call it a split personality. He betrayed and almost wiped out his race, he lost his mind.

Vokes

ButcherOfNog wrote:

none of the other cylons have ever mentioned him in anyway

That's a a really good point but i don't think he's crazy. I think its more likely that Six belongs to a different faction of Cylons altogether and we'll see something to support that come the latter part of season 2.

Ron Moore: "...We’ll also be delving more into the Cylons and starting to do some stories from their point of view. It's going to add a brand new dimension to how we view the Cylons, to the characters we have so far regarded as the enemy, and which side you are supposed to be rooting for. Audiences can look forward to an added layer of complexity as we get closer to this year’s finale."

iguana

ButcherOfNog wrote:

Baltar is just insane, none of the other cylons have ever mentioned him in anyway, 6 is in his head, call it a split personality. He betrayed and almost wiped out his race, he lost his mind.

I would agree with that theory, especially in light of ep 10, except for the fact that Baltar is not the only one to have seen Galactica Six. In Six Degrees of Seperation she appears to the rest of the crew in order to implicate Baltar for the destruction of the colonies because he wouldn't believe in God.

Syth

My take on 'Six Degrees of Seperation' is the same as GerardKeating's. She wasn't projecting anything then, the Cylon's smuggled her abord, then smuggled her out. Remember there are a few cylons left in the fleet.

iguana

Syth wrote:

My take on 'Six Degrees of Seperation' is the same as GerardKeating's. She wasn't projecting anything then, the Cylon's smuggled her abord, then smuggled her out. Remember there are a few cylons left in the fleet.

But the Six that appeared on Galactica played into everything that the Six in Baltars head suggested. At least she seemed to at the time, I must re-watch it.

The Six in his head also knew the cylons were trying to create human/cylon babies. And that there was one coming to Galactica. She also told him the identity of a cylon Aaron Doral in the pilot and she identified the device the cylons had placed on CIC. How would Baltar know any of that, as he would have to if Galactica Six was entirley a figment of his imagination.

In 'Flesh and Bone' Roslin had dreams about the cylon Leoben Connoy before appeared in that episode. This seems to suggest that the cylons may have an ability to communicate with humans in some sort of 'telepathic' way.

ButcherOfNog

iguana wrote:

She also told him the identity of a cylon Aaron Doral in the pilot and she identified the device the cylons had placed on CIC. How would Baltar know any of that, as he would have to if Galactica Six was entirley a figment of his imagination.

Dunno about the first one, i had thought Baltar had just pointed the finger at him cause he was the one person who had been on the bridge alot but really shouldn't have been there, it was more to deflect interest from him that anything else, must rewatch.

On the cyclon device on the CIC, he'd seen 6 with that device on Caprica.

Syth

iguana wrote:

But the Six that appeared on Galactica played into everything that the Six in Baltars head suggested. At least she seemed to at the time, I must re-watch it. (snip)

I think that Six is actually really being projected, but that the Six in 'Six Degrees of Seperation' was a real 'person'. I rewatched it, and at the end Adama find's Shelly Godfrey's glasses in the CIC. Plus we know there actually are other Cylons with that body. We've seen them on Caprica, and there were a few on the Raganok Armary in the miniseries.

geecee

Baltar is a cylon...

The original copy of him was killed (along with a six copy)by a nuke in the pilot episode...

They still show this nuke killing them in the opening credits of series 2

The baltar that is currently on galactica is a new cylon copy of the original baltar (that betrayed humanity)...

I'm afraid its that simple folks!

Johnny Storm

Or just possibly...
...what Balthar said to the prisoner Six on the Pegasus was literally true? - ie that he was in deeply love with Six on Caprica and he just cant stop thinking about her now.

Vokes

geecee wrote:

Baltar is a cylon...

The original copy of him was killed (along with a six copy)by a nuke in the pilot episode...

They still show this nuke killing them in the opening credits of series 2

The nuke was too far away to kill them, they were hit by its pressure/shockwave, and Six protected him from the glass.

LoLth

dont think baltar is a cylon. He was always a celebrity and recognised by hte public (in the Pilot Helo recognises him). To have a few copies of him floating around would be attracting too much attention to themselves (the cylons).

I like Revs idea B. it would explain how she constantly gets events to come right. Doesnt explain her obvious shock at seeing what the peggy crew had done though.