The soccer forum.

jubbly

I called a number of Shamrock Rovers fans " f'ing animals' and got a 1 week ban for my trouble. Personally I think the library was thrown at me. It was over the top and a warning (AT MOST) would have been more suitable.

Anyone who folllows the Eircom League and attends the matches knows what it is like when a large number of "fans" decide to cause trouble. They arent real fans , just hooligans.

People who were there would probably called them a lot worse and I cannot get over this savage reaction by boards.ie

KdjaCL

I have called them worse and been banned for it....take it like a man ...chin up only 6 days to go .


kdjac

Johnny_the_fox

read the charter

jubbly

Johnny_the_fox wrote:

read the charter

I cant : -

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Im seriously pissed. Its football... how many fans do you know go to football games and shout things like " Henry , you didnt score the peno, hard luck" and "nasty challenge Roy, maybe you should get booked"

Johnny_the_fox

log out.

Chong

Jeez quit your whinging rules are rules simple as that and beacause past greivances this is the way its got to be. Boards is a dictatorship not a democracy get bloody used to it.

jubbly

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jubbly

WDK wrote:

Jeez quit your whinging rules are rules simple as that and beacause past greivances this is the way its got to be. Boards is a dictatorship not a democracy get bloody used to it.

well this is the feedback forum and I was just giving feedback on what I thought about the soccer forum.

You can consider this thread closed now.

RuggieBear

what's worse is that you have managed to get your sponsers banned too....

make you feel any better? :rolleyes:

Gordon

jubbly wrote:

Im seriously pissed. Its football... how many fans do you know go to football games and shout things like " Henry , you didnt score the peno, hard luck" and "nasty challenge Roy, maybe you should get booked"

So you think you should be able to swear to your hearts content on the soccer forum because people that watch soccer sometimes like to swear a lot?

That logic became flawed on the Counterstrike forum iirc.

BuffyBot

I cant : -

I think the point is you should have read it before hand..

Beruthiel

the ban was deserved
quit your whinging, take it on the chin, it's only a week

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We all know what they are lets be honest but most of the times you should keep you opinions to yourself . Hell i've had years with these fans runing at us with sticks bottles etc , but you never heard me calling them anything most of teh people that post about eircom league football understand wheer you are coming from but this is not free speech so therefore your ban is deserved

jubbly

RuggieBear wrote:

what's worse is that you have managed to get your sponsers banned too....

make you feel any better? :rolleyes:

No, of course not.

So you think you should be able to swear to your hearts content on the soccer forum because people that watch soccer sometimes like to swear a lot?

That logic became flawed on the Counterstrike forum iirc.

No, my point is that sometimes arguements get heated and people use words than in hindsight may not be the most appropriate. Its football were talking about , not a scientific research project.

the ban was deserved
quit your whinging, take it on the chin, it's only a week

Im only giving feedback. If you dont want any feedback on this matter just ignore it or put it in the bin. I advocate freedom of speech.

RuggieBear

your ban is deserved.....

altho i'd like to call some of the rovers fans, who hit me with a pint glass in a ballsbridge pub, much worse.

amp

jubbly wrote:

Im only giving feedback. If you dont want any feedback on this matter just ignore it or put it in the bin. I advocate freedom of speech.

You're obviously not aware of the history of the Soccer forum. It started off as a normal forum, with normal access. But then idiots invaded from within and without boards and started having flamewars based on whatever team they supported, flaming each other and such. Actually having a rational discussion based on a love of the sport became increasingly difficult.

In other words it's people like you that have caused these rules to be put in place. Also I'd like to hear your definition of freedom of speech and why it should apply to a privately owned website.

Lastly, if you don't want any feedback on your feedback then I suggest you stop reading this thread.

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Is there any chance while most of the main admins are here we can get some one to look at the eircom league forum that is wanted in my sig , its been a while now and no admins have gave me a answer on it amp you got the PHOWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 nah will you have a look buddy thanks

Draupnir

amp wrote:

You're obviously not aware of the history of the Soccer forum. It started off as a normal forum, with normal access. But then idiots invaded from within and without boards and started having flamewars based on whatever team they supported, flaming each other and such. Actually having a rational discussion based on a love of the sport became increasingly difficult.

In other words it's people like you that have caused these rules to be put in place. Also I'd like to hear your definition of freedom of speech and why it should apply to a privately owned website.

Lastly, if you don't want any feedback on your feedback then I suggest you stop reading this thread.

You obviously don't know a lot about it either if thats what you think happened.

I think you will find that 90% of the people, me included, banned at the time the Soccer Forum was locked up, are now active members of the forum and get on just fine. It all came about due to unclear boundaries and rules and also some "unbiased" moderating. Thankfully, thats all behind us.

Anyway, Im surprised Jubbly lasted as long as he did.

seamus

Sarge wrote:

Is there any chance while most of the main admins are here we can get some one to look at the eircom league forum that is wanted in my sig , its been a while now and no admins have gave me a answer on it amp you got the PHOWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 nah will you have a look buddy thanks

I know amp seems like an admin with his dazzling wit and godlike presence, but unfortunately he's not. He only lives with one. None of the admins have posted in this thread. They're the ones with 5 gold stars.

You'll have to wait sonny.

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Will do sonny

If your build it they will come
good things come to doe's that wait

etc etc

amp

Draupnir wrote:

You obviously don't know a lot about it either if thats what you think happened.

I think you will find that 90% of the people, me included, banned at the time the Soccer Forum was locked up, are now active members of the forum and get on just fine.

How does this contradict what I said?

It all came about due to unclear boundaries and rules and also some "unbiased" moderating. Thankfully, thats all behind us.

Ah it wasn't your fault or any of the rest of the 90% it was the moderators fault. Because people just can't use their own common sense unless a moderator tells them to?

jubbly

amp wrote:

In other words it's people like you that have caused these rules to be put in place. Also I'd like to hear your definition of freedom of speech and why it should apply to a privately owned website.

Lastly, if you don't want any feedback on your feedback then I suggest you stop reading this thread.

Personally I think a few PM's would work a lot better than handing out the bannings to posters and their sponsors for lesser offenses. Most other football discussion boards run this policy (and dont tell me to go there).

My definition of freedom of speech is being able to say your own personal opninion and having not conforming to what the authorities want to you say.

You can leave all the feedback you wish on this thread, I was just closing it in case further action was taken.

RuggieBear wrote:

your ban is deserved.....

good explination there :rolleyes:

Johnny_the_fox

IMO - if 'you' banned from the soccer forum.. (for a week). you should have to re-apply for access..

releasing your sponsors incase 'you' do it again.

RuggieBear

ohh....nasty!

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Johnny_the_fox wrote:

IMO - if 'you' banned from the soccer forum.. (for a week). you should have to re-apply for access..

releasing your sponsors incase 'you' do again.

agreed and your first two sponsors should be given the option if they want to sponsor you again !

super_furry

Johnny_the_fox wrote:

IMO - if 'you' banned from the soccer forum.. (for a week). you should have to re-apply for access..

releasing your sponsors incase 'you' do again.

Good point. At least it would give the sponsors the chance to 'get out' if they inadvertandly sponsored an idiot and would make them more selective about who they actually sponsor.

As for jubbly's week long ban, I think it's fully deserved - it's a clear insult of a group of fans that could have led to some serious flaming. As a Shamrock Rovers fan, I certainly don't feel I'm a "f'ing animal."

Johnny_the_fox

Johnny_the_fox wrote:

IMO - if 'you' banned from the soccer forum.. (for a week). you should have to re-apply for access..

releasing your sponsors incase 'you' do it again.

and can i just add..

the sponsor should only get the 'week' ban (or maybe 'half the week')..

dudara

In fairness, the one thing that is clear about the Soccer forum is that there is no flaming allowed. That's blindingly obvious, even to a blind man wearing a blindfold in a dark room, underground. Idiot. Just accept the ban and get over it

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super_furry wrote:

Good point. At least it would give the sponsors the chance to 'get out' if they inadvertandly sponsored an idiot and would make them more selective about who they actually sponsor.

As for jubbly's week long ban, I think it's fully deserved - it's a clear insult of a group of fans that could have led to some serious flaming. As a Shamrock Rovers fan, I certainly don't feel I'm a "f'ing animal."

Look i disagree with what jubbly said on boards , you just cant insult people like that on here and that is what that statement is doing but lads lets be honest there is a small element of shamrock rovers fans that are a awaful lot worse then what jubbly said , and you guys know this while i 100% agree with the banning its something that had to be done , jubbly isnt far wrong .

you just cant say that

super_furry

There's a world of a difference between saying Rovers have a small minority of idiots that attach themselves to the club in search of trouble, and calling every single Rovers fan a ‘f’ing animal’. I don't deny there is an issue to be discussed, but that's not a discussion.

BuffyBot

My definition of freedom of speech is being able to say your own personal opninion and having not conforming to what the authorities want to you say.

Who said you had freedom of speech round here? That's what I'd like to know..

mike65

This thread touches on why I won't sponser anyone unless I really feel I 'know' them which is why I've done it twice!

Mike.

amp

jubbly wrote:

Personally I think a few PM's would work a lot better than handing out the bannings to posters and their sponsors for lesser offenses. Most other football discussion boards run this policy (and dont tell me to go there).

Well the soccer mods and this sites admins have more experience with running the Soccer forum than you. I do not say this to belittle you, I state it as a fact. Why shouldn't you go to these other sites if they're so much better?

My definition of freedom of speech is being able to say your own personal opninion and having not conforming to what the authorities want to you say.

Tell me, do you think you have that right now? Besides, telling someone to fúck off is a lot different than conforming to what the authourities want you to say.

You can leave all the feedback you wish on this thread, I was just closing it in case further action was taken.

On boards users can start threads but they can't close them. Good job too or Feedback wouldn't be as much fun.

The Muppet

Well done to the Soccer Mods T4TF and Talla on their actions today. If users can not get their point of view across without using abusive language they deserve to be banned.

Jubbly it's only a week, use it to contribute to some of the other fora.

Jonny Arson

Wouldn't things have been so much better if jubbly had use the word ''some'' before ''rovers fans are fking animals.''

Take the ban on the chin man. As a fellow Shels fan I could rant and moan and use even far worse foul language when describing some of the thugs who support Shamrock Rovers Football Club but as much as I'm all for free speech that comment was only going to provoke an unfavourable reaction and it has to be clamped down on.

If you really want to use terms like ''rovers fans are fking animals'' register on Gypo site and pretend to be a Bohs casual where they welcome abusing rival clubs with all sorts of inappropriate abuse and threatening behaviour.

therecklessone

jubbly wrote:

I called a number of Shamrock Rovers fans " f'ing animals' and got a 1 week ban for my trouble.

Since you can't access the soccer forum to check your original comments, I'll refresh your memory:

jubbly wrote:

Shamrock Rover fans are f'ing animals

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=3350831&postcount=3

Not "a number", not "some", just "Shamrock Rovers fans".

Squirrel

mike65 wrote:

This thread touches on why I won't sponser anyone unless I really feel I 'know' them which is why I've done it twice!

Mike.

I know what you mean, I've only got access and won't get involved in any of the arguments I could possibly lose the head over, or bother posting abuse at other fans, a way of saving alot of trouble getting sponsors banned.

Oh and btw I feel that some Rovers fan's do behave like animals, but my brother is a fan and I certainly don't think he's an animal

jubbly

Ive said my peice and have nothing more to say on this matter.

Thanks everyone for your valuable contribution.

eirebhoy

Draupnir wrote:

Anyway, Im surprised Jubbly lasted as long as he did.

I'm suprised how few people know who jubbly is. Started supporting them after their European run last season. Has never been to Tolka... jog any memories?

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Squirrel wrote:

I know what you mean, I've only got access and won't get involved in any of the arguments I could possibly lose the head over, or bother posting abuse at other fans, a way of saving alot of trouble getting sponsors banned.

thats reassurance seen as i sponsored you

rsynnott

Oh, I DO enjoy the cries of the damned!

*Always checks Prison first*

Rabies

Johnny_the_fox wrote:

IMO - if 'you' banned from the soccer forum.. (for a week). you should have to re-apply for access..

releasing your sponsors incase 'you' do it again.

Good idea.

RuggieBear

eirebhoy wrote:

I'm suprised how few people know who jubbly is. Started supporting them after their European run last season. Has never been to Tolka... jog any memories?

i do

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ah ive clearly missed something explain pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee

RuggieBear

he had a previous incarnation....unless I'm hallucinating wildly :eek:

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well its never a good sign if someone has to open a second account

_blank_

eirebhoy wrote:

I'm suprised how few people know who jubbly is. Started supporting them after their European run last season. Has never been to Tolka... jog any memories?

Is it?

That user was banned for personally abusive PMs (to me), re-registered with another username along the same lines as his first one and continued to PM me, afaik that account was banned too.

I'd be very surprised if the Mods/Admins made this kind of oversight?

talla

Jubbly banned permanently from Soccer because I am satisfied Jubbly is thejollyroger.

jubbly

talla wrote:

Jubbly banned permanently from Soccer because I am satisfied Jubbly is thejollyroger.

Thanks for doing me a favour Talla:)

Asok

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