Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Hand Analysis needed. Opinions??

  • 14-09-2005 9:59pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭


    The villian in this hand was very loose and generally a calling station, he would normally limp into a majority of pots (about 40 - 50%) but would rarely raise, so I put him on a strong holding. He also was a bit of a calling station in general and even with a flush draw. Any thoughts on how I played this hand??

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) converter

    Hero ($137.70):
    CO ($188.25)
    Button ($170.15)
    SB ($140.55)
    BB ($26.50)
    UTG ($91.50)
    UTG+1 ($39.50)
    MP1 ($51.45)
    MP2 ($106.25):

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Ac:As.
    3 folds, MP2 raises to $4, Hero raises to $9, 4 folds, MP2 calls $5.

    Flop: ($19.50) 3d, Ts, Qs (2 players)
    MP2 checks, Hero bets $14, MP2 calls $14.

    Turn: ($47.50) Jh: (2 players)
    MP2 checks, Hero checks.

    River: ($47.50) Qd (2 players)
    MP2 checks, Hero checks.

    Do you think this was just too tight weak??


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    You defintely hae to bet the turn. If you bet the turn and he calls, then checking behind on the river is acceptable although I'd still value bet it hoping he calls with KJ or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Checking behind on the turn is good sometimes, but not against loose calling stations. Charge them the max with your good hands. Punish their looseness!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Any thoughts on this hand??

    My thinking for checking on the river was that I really couldn't see any hands that this guy could have raised with pre-flop that I was still beating??

    What would anyone put this guy on??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Raise more preflop, you just about raised him the minimum. If you want to keep the pot small and keep your holding disguised then just flat call.

    Checking the turn is good against a normal opponent, because if you play a 50bb+ pot with 1 pair you are likely to have the worst hand, however against a loose player this doesnt hold. So you should probably be betting here a good proportion of the time.

    The river is unfortunate because if you bet he might put you on the queen and fold other hands, so I dont think it really matters if you bet or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    I didn't raise more pre-flop because I wanted him in this pot, he was one of the reasons I was at this table, but I didn't want anyone else in it cheaply, because there was about 3 or 4 good players waiting for this guy I think, I knew he would call this smallish re-raise and that no-one else would (without a high pocket pair) and that's why I made this raise.

    I checked the turn because I pretty much thought anything he could possibly have now had me beat, with the only really exceptions being AQ or a flush draw.

    Then on the river all I could beat was the flush draw which he would fold meaning I win the exact same amount of money as I would have by checking.

    It turns out he had K7s would you believe and he probably would have called a turn bet, but there's very few players like this around and I think this is the only reason I had such a dilemna with this hand, but thinking back I'm actually quite happy with this play now. Except, possibly that I should have bet hoping that he would lay down trips thinking I had AK and a straight. But against this guy I doubt it.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    If he is going to call a reraise preflop for $5 he will call for $8. Make it $12 to go preflop. If you had QQ how much would you reraise? I'd imagine you are giving away your holding here by making a smaller reraise than usual.

    Since he is a calling station I bet every street here for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    I have to disagree here Nicky, I don't think he would have called a larger re-raise preflop.

    Also I think raising every street is how I would have lost, rather than extract, the maximum, I couldn't have really bet less than $30 on the turn without getting into trouble. Then on the river there's no possible way I could have bet anymore, the only hands that will call are ones that have me beat.
    While he was a calling station he wasn't completely stupid and he had made a couple of good plays previously against other players and a small bet on the turn could have induced a big re-raise and what do I do then??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Ste05 wrote:
    While he was a calling station he wasn't completely stupid and he had made a couple of good plays previously against other players and a small bet on the turn could have induced a big re-raise and what do I do then??

    If a loose passive player makes a big reraise against me I generally fold


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭busbybhoy


    Ste05 wrote:
    Any thoughts on this hand??

    My thinking for checking on the river was that I really couldn't see any hands that this guy could have raised with pre-flop that I was still beating??

    What would anyone put this guy on??


    If he called that big you have to put him on AQ/KQ or flush draw. More than likely flush draw because surely he would have raised with top pair after flop.
    What did he have??


Advertisement