Tomahawk wins by first round stoppage!

mark.leonard · 12-09-2005 9:48am #1

Congrats to the Tomahawk Tom Haddock for kicking ass with great style yeasterday in Co. Antrim at Extreme Combat 3.
He controlled the fight with the thai clinch standing up and worked to mount as soon as it hit the floor. He pounded his opponent from there until the referee stepped in to stop the fight after three and a half minutes.

Colm_OReilly · 12-09-2005 11:12am

Sweet!

How'd Francis get on? Any more boys from PBS rockin the show?

Tim_Murphy · 12-09-2005 11:14am

Tom did indeed rock last night! Brutal GnP, the other guy did well to stay in the fight as long as he did.

Francis won by guillotine AFAIK

Clive · 12-09-2005 12:18pm

Props to Tom!

mark.leonard · 12-09-2005 1:17pm

he was fighting Johnny Shiels of the IIMMA in Ballymenagh. No other Point Blank fighters I was MC'ing. No Video evidence until the DVD comes out I am afraid.
Tim Murphy fought Mikey Young for the Featherweight title and in my opinion won the fight clearly. The decision went against him however, a decision booed by the crowd who went into chants of "Murphy! Murphy!".
Francis won by trusty guillotine after breaking the rope at the start of the match!

Ger Healy · 12-09-2005 1:18pm

Yea great win by Tom and Francis
Well done to both of them

As for Tim's loss people can make up their own mind up about it when they view the video.

IMO Tim won.

Capper · 12-09-2005 7:36pm

Tim won for sure,first and third round were his but i think young's turn over at the end of the third won it for him.Hard luck Tim.
Tom as cool as ever well done lad..
Frances showed why he's the best..
Some great fights.Good show.

dlofnep · 12-09-2005 7:37pm

mark.leonard wrote:

Tim Murphy fought Mikey Young for the Featherweight title and in my opinion won the fight clearly. The decision went against him however, a decision booed by the crowd who went into chants of "Murphy! Murphy!".

That's a shame. Tim's a good guy and a good fighter. I didn't expect these sort of politics here. Does anyone have a video of the fight?

mark.leonard · 13-09-2005 8:56am

I don't think it was politics, I think the judges were inexperienced and didn't remain as objective as they should have, though I don't think it was a conscious thing.

As for Mickey's turnover winning the third round, you could be right, though it shouldn't have of course; it was realy late in the round (like 40 seconds to go at most) and he didn't score from there at all, in fact all it did was highlight the fact that Tim had bust his nose as he started bleeding everywhere.

Ger Healy · 13-09-2005 11:17am

mark.leonard wrote:

I don't think it was politics, I think the judges were inexperienced and didn't remain as objective as they should have, though I don't think it was a conscious thing.

As for Mickey's turnover winning the third round, you could be right, though it shouldn't have of course; it was realy late in the round (like 40 seconds to go at most) and he didn't score from there at all, in fact all it did was highlight the fact that Tim had bust his nose as he started bleeding everywhere.

I agree Mark don't think it was politics.
Just not been objective enough.

Fierce annoying

Tim_Murphy · 13-09-2005 11:38am

Thanks for the kind words guys. I felt I won the fight, but I know I could have fought better as well so I'm generally annoyed all round.
Thanks to Mark and Ger and all for the support on the night.

I know judging along with reffing is a truly thankless job but I think they really need to have more experienced people doing it. Fighters put a lot of work into getting ready for fights and losing like this is a pretty big kick in the stones.

mark.leonard · 13-09-2005 12:27pm

Twisted_Ankle wrote:

What happens if there is a draw? They go to the cards? are there judges scoring hits? Or do they look at each round seperaetly and they say who won which, who did more damage, who was more active, who had control, who went for submissions etc etc? then it's who ever has the most rounds? or is the last round more important than the first?

And the prize for the most questions in one post goes to....:D

If a match goes the distance it goes to a judges decision. The judges score each round individually using a 10 point must system familiar to most people from boxing. The emphasis on what the criteria are for winning a round varies from organisation to organisation, but AFAIK the Extreme Combat promotion scores like the UFC i.e. points are awarded for effective striking, grappling, takedowns, aggressiveness and ring control.

dlofnep · 13-09-2005 12:28pm

If it's just inexperienced reffing, than that's all it is.. Still, there is nothing worse than training for a fight, winning the fight but the judges not giving you what you deserve.

paddyc · 13-09-2005 12:41pm

question for tim

am i right in saying u beat colm and mikey young ( although not in judges eyes ) what do you train in, as i though colm was smashing on the ground and mikey was the current irish champ ??? am i right

do your fights stay standing or go to the ground?

paddy

Ger Healy · 13-09-2005 1:52pm

Be carefull Tim don't be telling them about you're seceret training methods and using of the much talked about LUMA dvds as a training aid:D

dlofnep · 13-09-2005 2:26pm

paddyc wrote:

question for tim

am i right in saying u beat colm and mikey young ( although not in judges eyes ) what do you train in, as i though colm was smashing on the ground and mikey was the current irish champ ??? am i right

do your fights stay standing or go to the ground?

paddy

From what I've seen of Tim, he prefers to stand but is very capable on the ground.

Tim_Murphy · 13-09-2005 2:46pm

paddyc wrote:

question for tim

am i right in saying u beat colm and mikey young ( although not in judges eyes ) what do you train in, as i though colm was smashing on the ground and mikey was the current irish champ ??? am i right

do your fights stay standing or go to the ground?

paddy

Hi Paddy,
I'm from a light contact Kickboxing and TKD background, started training for MMA about a year ago, so I train the usual standup clinch and ground.

Most of my fights have been a mixture of standup and ground. Against colm I obviously had a lot of respect for his ground game so just tried to keep it tight and waited for my chance to unload when we were standing. The fight against micky on sunday was largely on the ground although there was some standup.

dlofnep · 13-09-2005 2:55pm

Tim who do you have to train submission grappling with?

Tim_Murphy · 13-09-2005 3:55pm

Why all the questions guys?

I don't really count how often I train, lots when I've a fight coming up, not as much when I don't. I'm the grand old age of 22 and I train grappling with the same people I train everything else with, mainly people from the martial arts clubs in UL. I've a few guys down here that are coming along nicely and I'm hoping to get some of them fighting MMA soon.

dlofnep · 13-09-2005 4:57pm

Tim_Murphy wrote:

Why all the questions guys?

I don't really count how often I train, lots when I've a fight coming up, not as much when I don't. I'm the grand old age of 22 and I train grappling with the same people I train everything else with, mainly people from the martial arts clubs in UL. I've a few guys down here that are coming along nicely and I'm hoping to get some of them fighting MMA soon.

We're just sizing you up for your next opponent.. Gary Goodridge.

TwoKingMick · 13-09-2005 5:08pm

Tim's been grappling more than a year, i have a distinct memory of him at king of the mat a lot more than a year ago.

Ballisong · 14-09-2005 2:24pm

Well done Tom on the win, and if your reading this, it's all that hard training. :rolleyes:

Tomahawk wins by first round stoppage!

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