Its Iligal!! Envioroment charge on electics

BoneCollector

Its ILIGAL!!

I have been giving out to the Dpt of evioroment and WEE about this charge and quoting EU directive.

Page 2 article 20 clearly states all recovery should be FREE! and the producer should! finance all!! costs for recovery.

Also I found out that the price of goods are not suppose to change as a result of this charge.
The charge is not suppose to be added, its suppose to show how much of the original cost is going towards the recovery of the goods.

So any shops that show price+envoirmental charge are Iligaly Hiking the price.

here is that paragraph from the Eu Directive:

(20) Users of electrical and electronic equipment from private
households should have the possibility of returning
WEEE at least free of charge.

Producers should therefore
finance collection from collection facilities, and the treatment,
recovery and disposal of WEEE.

Cuauhtemoc

Just out of interest..Is there anywhere that claims they aren't applying the charge. I've only been in power city and they are.
Also, If you're not returning goods to be recycled should you be charged?

BoneCollector

This is the point..
There is not suppose to be a charge
so there is no issue on wheather you should be charged or not.

the statement that its not an addition came from WEE
they even sited that its a matter for the dpt of consumer affairs, which in this case it would be, because they are distorting the original price.

Most shops i see have big cards that show original price+charge
so they are hiking the price.

talk to the store manager and tell them you will contact consumer affairs if they insist on charging you extra.

its easy to spot the extra anyway.

most prices are x9.99
if its something like 71.99 its a rip off.

BoneCollector

find attatch advert that appeared in the papers.
this document was email to me from the dpt of env

IMPORTANT:
it clearly states the retailer may not ADD the charge.

copy print and take it with you when you make your purchase.

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BoneCollector,
Are you sure about this? Have you had any luck when buying any electronic equipment?

Thanks
ambrose :cool:

Keeks

Retailers have to take back WEEE free of charge one-for-one basis only and the WEEE must be of a similar type or have performed the same function as the new item purchased. For example, you are not obligated to accept a microwave if your customer has purchased a toaster.

What you are seeing is mentioned in Article 8 paragrah 3 of the Directive

Member States shall ensure that for a transitional period of
eight years (10 years for category 1 of Annex IA) after entry
into force of this Directive, producers are allowed to show
purchasers, at the time of sale of new products, the costs of
collection, treatment and disposal in an environmentally sound
way. The costs mentioned shall not exceed the actual costs

What you are seeing is what it costs them. It shouldn't cost you any extra.

http://www.environ.ie/DOEI/DOEIPol.nsf/wvNavView/Waste+Electrical+&+Electronic+Equipment?OpenDocument&Lang=

Dundhoone

Its a daft piece of silly legislation. The consumer should be responsible for bringing a product to a suitable recycling/disposal facility. What benefit to making teh shop responsible?

Its the same thinking as the bring your waste packing back to the place you bought it. Big chains can pay their repak fee and opt out, small business is screwed over once again.

Of course an extra charge has to be applied. It costs money to store and transport waste electronic product. Profit margin on electronics is at an all time low and despite our consumer culture sales of electronic goods are not great.

Ultimately the person using the product is the polluter, and the polluter should pay.

Keeks

Dundhoone wrote:

The consumer should be responsible for bringing a product to a suitable recycling/disposal facility. What benefit to making teh shop responsible?

From what i understand of the directive the shops isn't respondsible for the recycling /disposal of the products. They are just obliged to take them back. It is upto the local authority to recycle/disposal of them and it is the produced that pays for the recycling/disposal

It makes sence too when you thing of washing machines and the like. Most of theses items are delivered to peoples homes. So when the new one arrives the old one can be taken away.

Dundhoone

Keeks wrote:

From what i understand of the directive the shops isn't respondsible for the recycling /disposal of the products. They are just obliged to take them back. It is upto the local authority to recycle/disposal of them and it is the produced that pays for the recycling/disposal

It makes sence too when you thing of washing machines and the like. Most of theses items are delivered to peoples homes. So when the new one arrives the old one can be taken away.

Yes - the charge is a transport cost and not a recycling cost.

Board@Work

Dundhoone wrote:

Yes - the charge is a transport cost and not a recycling cost.

And the time it takes