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[Sept.2-4] NTSA National Championships 2005

  • 29-08-2005 9:12am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭


    National Target Shooting Association of Ireland.
    National Championships 2005.


    To be held
    2nd to 4th September 2005 in
    Midland Rifle Club & UCD Rifle Club.


    Competitions
    Competition #1 :
    3 position Event (Friday 2nd September)
    Venue; Midland Rifle Club
    Start Time; 14 00
    Entry Fee; €20 (Junior €15)
    (3 x 40 shots) 45 minutes in the prone position, 75 minutes in the standing position and 60 minutes in the kneeling position.
    1 detail only.

    Competition #2 :
    Prone Event (Saturday 3rd September)
    Venue; Midland Rifle Club
    Start Time; 10 00
    Entry Fee; €20 (Junior €15)
    60 shot prone at 50m
    2 – 3 details, (depending on entry).
    Followed by Final.


    Competition #3 :
    Air Gun Event (Sunday 4th September)
    Venue; UCD Rifle Club
    Start Time; Air Pistol 09 00
    Air Rifle; 12 00
    Entry Fee; €20 per event. (Junior €15 per event)
    60 shot (standing) at 10m
    2 – 3 details, (depending on entry)
    Followed by Final.

    Entries;
    Contact; Liam Crawfrod.
    E-mail; lcrawf@iol.ie
    Tel; +353 (087) 2453137
    Entries Close, Sunday 28th August (18 00)

    Note;
    This is a closed shoot for N.T.S.A. affiliates who are entitled to hold an Irish Passport. While non-affiliates may enter, they may not claim National Championship Prizes.
    Targets will remain the property of the NTSA.
    Important ! Final date for receipt of entries is 28th August 2005.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    From targetshootingireland.org
    The last 3 days saw the first ever National Championship Festival held with 3-P and Prone competitions taking place in Midlands Rifle Club on Friday and Saturday and Air Pistol and Rifle taking palce on Sunday. Attendance was up on last years with a stronger turn out from the college clubs. Well done to all who took part and a huge thanks to our hosts Midlands Rifle Club and UCD Rifle Club. A full list of results is given below. Finally many people put in a lot of work to make sure the weekend was a sucess and many thanks to all of them and well done.
    3 Position National Championships
    Richard Stapleton 97 96 99 96 388 90 89 89 85 353 92 89 97 92 370 1111
    Ray Kane 94,95,95,94 (378 95 92 84 91 362 93 89 90 92 364 1104
    Declan Kelly 98 96 97 99 390 88 90 88 90 356 91 88 89 86 354 1100
    Sean Baldwin 95 93 95 97 380 89 87 88 91 355 92 88 92 88 360 1095
    Joe O Donohoe 97 94 97 97 385 80 79 74 89 322 95 87 89 92 363 1070
    Iain Nash 91 95 97 92 375 85 84 80 88 337 71 78 74 84 307 1019
    JK Walsh 90 95 92 90 367 44 39 47 62 192 62 66 64 63 255 814

    Louise Minett 89 89 178 93 96 189 81 90 171 538
    50m Prone National Championship - Final
    Declan Kelly DRC 583 10.0 10.9 10.2 10.3 10.3 9.5 9.8 10.7 10.4 10.2 102.3 787.6
    Richard Stapleton Jr. WTSC 580 9.9 9.9 9.8 10.8 10.4 10.5 9.8 10.1 9.7 9.9 100.8 781.6
    Sandy Wilson FSC 581 9.7 9.7 9.7 10.2 10.6 9.8 9.2 10.7 9.7 9.7 99 779
    Ray Reilly DURC 571 10.5 10.9 9.7 10.6 10.8 9.5 10.6 9.8 10.2 10.4 103 777
    Michael Walls FTSC 567 10.1 10.3 9.7 9.2 10.8 9.4 9.5 10.6 10.7 10.7 101 769
    Iain Nash DURC 567 10.0 8.9 10.3 9.8 10.4 9.2 9.7 8.5 10.5 9.9 97.2 761.4
    Joe O' Donohoe ATSC 575 10.4 6.0 9.7 8.4 0.0 9.5 10.5 10.7 10.4 10.6 86.2 747.4
    Ray Kane ATSC 567 9.3 - - - - - - - - - 9.3 585.6
    50m Prone National Championship – 60 Shot Series & Class
    Declan Kelly DRC A 96 96 96 99 98 98 583
    Richard Stapleton Jr. WTSC A 92 95 98 98 100 97 580
    Sandy Wilson FSC A 97 95 98 99 97 95 581
    Ray Reilly DURC A 96 96 93 95 93 98 571
    Michael Walls FTSC B 95 94 98 97 91 92 567
    Iain Nash DURC D 92 94 96 97 93 95 567
    Joe O' Donohoe ATSC A 97 98 94 95 94 97 575
    Ray Kane ATSC A 95 94 96 94 95 93 567
    Mark Dennehy WTSC B 97 96 95 92 92 94 566
    Leslie Fagan WTSC A 94 95 92 96 94 94 565
    Sean Baldwin ATSC A 95 91 92 93 91 96 558
    PJ Harding DRC B 92 96 92 93 93 92 558
    Patrick O'Brien DRC C 91 89 85 90 96 95 546
    Daniel Fleming WTSC D 91 94 94 89 89 87 544
    JK Walsh DRC D 90 86 92 88 89 90 535
    John Carroll Rathdrum C 88 91 89 85 84 84 521
    Dave Trumper Rathdrum C 88 81 89 83 90 85 516
    Air Pistol National Championship
    Walls Michael FTSC 79 82 86 86 91 88 512
    Corballis Christopher UCDRC 61 47 52 61 61 57 339
    Zauers Karlis TCD 54 61 43 38 48 56 300
    Corballis Anthony UCDRC 50 40 62 43 62 33 290
    Doherty Brendan UCDRC 34 37 54 63 32 44 264
    Air Rifle National Championship - Final
    Murphy Nicola WTSC 575 9.9 10.7 9.7 10.1 9.5 9.5 9.7 10.4 9.8 9.7 99 674
    Cunningham Susan WTSC 571 9.9 9.8 10.3 10 10.7 10.6 9.7 9.6 10.5 9.1 100.2 671.2
    Kelly Declan DRC 573 8.6 10.6 9.6 8.9 10.4 9.8 10.7 8.2 10.6 9.1 96.5 669.5
    Kane Ray ATSC 570 9.5 8 10.1 9.7 8.7 10.3 10.3 9.4 9.2 10.3 95.5 665.5
    Baldwin Sean ATSC 567 9.7 9.8 9.5 10.3 10.1 10.6 9.2 9 9 7.1 94.3 661.3
    Stapleton Richard WTSC 563 9.2 10.1 9.9 9 9.5 10.8 9.2 10 9.5 9.4 96.6 659.6
    Dennehy Mark WTSC 560 9.2 10.1 9 8.4 10 10.1 10.4 9.6 10.4 9.5 96.7 656.7
    Air Rifle National Championship – 60 Shot Series & Class
    1 Minett Louise UK Int 97 98 96 97 97 97 582
    2 Murphy Nicola WTSC Master 93 96 96 98 96 96 575
    3 Kelly Declan DRC Master 97 98 93 96 95 94 573
    4 Cunningham Susan WTSC Senior 97 94 94 95 95 96 571
    5 Kane Ray ATSC Senior 95 96 97 95 95 92 570
    6 Baldwin Sean ATCS Senior 91 94 95 95 97 95 567
    7 Lynn Ryan WTSC Senior 96 93 95 92 93 94 563
    8 Stapleton Richard WTSC Senior 94 95 93 91 98 92 563
    9 Dennehy Mark DURC Senior 95 93 94 95 94 89 560
    10 Smith Kevin WTSC Senior 93 94 88 95 95 92 557
    11 Fagan Damien WTSC Senior 92 78 93 90 97 94 544
    12 Lyons Emma UCDRC Senior 92 91 89 94 90 87 543
    13 O' Donohoe Joe ATSC Novice 90 88 93 89 92 90 542
    14 Gaffney Ciara UCDRC Senior 82 95 87 94 87 91 536
    15 Nash Iain DURC Senior 85 85 89 91 94 90 534
    16 Lynn Marc WTSC Senior 86 90 85 92 90 89 532
    17 Russel Cliodhna WTSC Senior 89 85 92 93 84 89 532
    18 O'Hagan Jim WTSC Senior 81 94 91 91 91 82 530
    19 Fleming Daniel WTSC Senior 81 89 87 91 86 85 519
    20 Flynn Shane WTSC Senior 82 86 81 83 89 85 506
    21 O'Hagan Elizabeth WTSC Senior 82 88 88 82 81 81 502
    22 Cunningham Paula WTSC Intermediate 75 81 79 81 77 87 480
    Ladies – 40 shot
    1 Murphy Nicola WTSC 93 96 96 98 383
    2 Cunningham Susan WTSC 97 94 94 95 380
    3 Lyons Emma UCDRC 92 91 89 94 366
    4 Russel Cliodhna WTSC 89 85 92 93 359
    5 Gaffney Ciara UCDRC 82 95 87 94 358
    6 O'Hagan Elizabeth WTSC 82 88 88 82 340
    7 Cunningham Paula WTSC 75 81 79 81 316
    Junior – 40 shot
    1 Cunningham Susan WTSC 97 94 94 95 380
    2 Lynn Ryan WTSC 96 93 95 92 376
    3 Russel Cliodhna WTSC 89 85 92 93 359
    4 O'Hagan Jim WTSC 81 94 91 91 357
    5 Lynn Marc WTSC 86 90 85 92 353
    6 Fagan Damien WTSC 92 78 93 90 353
    7 Nash Iain DURC 85 85 89 91 350
    8 O'Hagan Elizabeth WTSC 82 88 88 82 340
    9 Flynn Shane WTSC 82 86 81 83 332
    10 Cunningham Paula WTSC 75 81 79 81 316


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Also from targetshootingireland.org:
    The reason you can say that more college students attended this time (1 in 3P and Prone and 3 in Air ) than last time (None in 3P or prone and 2 in Air) is that last year the 3P and Prone matches were up North (hard for students to get to even during term) and the Air match was held in June, by which time the students who weren't sitting exams were already out of the country having finished them.

    Compared to 2002 when the nationals were run at a time that meant students could attend them, you had 14 from DURC alone in the air rifle match, because the Intervarsity teams were able to attend. Had that happened this year, we'd have seen 36 entries, not 22, and we'd have been on the road back to the days of full weekends of shooting. Of course, you'd have to have held the air pistol shoots on a different day, but that's a good thing as it allows for more concentration of effort, especially if it meant that you'd see the level of participation that you saw in the WTSC air pistol match (29 entries).

    How anyone can say that going from 14 college shooters to 3 is an improvement I don't know. And given that DURC submitted a written formal protest at the decision to move the Air Nationals to a point where they couldn't field a team for them, saying that there was a strong college presence goes from being a bad joke to being a deliberate snub. Bad form lads, considering that the rest of the weekend went well and we congratulated you in person on it. Lots of the weekend's events ran very well and very smoothly, and it was a definite improvement on last year in many ways; but nothing's perfect. Compared to the arrangement in past years, this year, though run more smoothly than last year, had flaws. Running seperate Nationals (which we did anyway, unless you don't consider the 25yd event to be a "real" national championships) would mean that instead of shooters who compete in all three rifle events, like Richard Stapleton Jr, Daniel Fleming, Iain Nash, Ray Kane, Sean Baldwin, Joe O'Donoghue or Declan Kelly (who for some reason was the only one congratulated for this endurance feat on Sunday) being exhausted by the time the Air Rifle Finals came around, that they would be able to tailor their training programmes to acheive optimal results in each event. It's true that some international shooters do shoot multiple disciplines in world cups and the like; but never back to back on con
    secutive days without a break and with a 200-mile drive (Dublin->Tullamore->Dublin) in the middle of it all, and having to juggle family life and shooting all in the same timeframe. Instead, they're staying in a hotel with transport to and from the range laid on by the competition organisers, and the most they have to do the day after a match is official training. There's time to regain physical strength and mental composure in between; as opposed to this weekend where you had four national matches and three finals in three days.

    Praising what went right is important, and well done for running the competition well and safely and seeing a rise in the Prone and 3P turnouts, and getting a new range used to ISSF shooting; but without honestly and unashamedly analysing what could go better and what just plain went wrong, all we'll do is stagnate and decay in our own spin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    .
    FINAL RESULT
    50 m Rifle 3 Positions - Men

    1 KELLY, Declan DRC
    P 98 96 97 99 390
    S 88 90 88 90 356
    K 91 88 89 86 354 1100
    (Final 9.9 10.2 10.1 9.3 9.2 10.3 7.9 8.5 7.8 8.6) 91.8 1191.8

    2 STAPLETON, Richard WTSC
    P 97 96 99 96 388
    S 90 89 89 85 353
    K 92 89 97 92 370 1111
    (Final 5.5 9.7 10.2 8.4 8.5 6.3 8.3 8.9 7.5 7.2) 80.5 1191.5

    3 KANE, Ray ARMY
    P 94 95 95 94 378
    S 95 92 84 91 362
    K 93 89 90 92 364 1104
    (Final 9.6 9.8 9.3 6.1 9.6 10.2 7.8 7.1 9.3 8.6) 87.4 1191.4

    4 BALDWIN, Sean ARMY
    P 95 93 95 97 380
    S 89 87 88 91 355
    K 92 88 92 88 360 1095
    (Final 10.5 8.8 9.7 10.3 7.9 8.5 8.5 9.2 10.0 7.8) 91.2 1186.2

    5 O'DONOHOE, Joe ARMY
    P 97 94 97 97 385
    S 80 79 74 89 322
    K 95 87 89 92 363 1070
    (Final 8.7 9.7 10.3 8.4 8.4 9.6 7.5 9.8 7.3 8.7) 88.4 1158.4

    6 NASH, Iain DURC
    P 91 95 97 92 375
    S 85 84 80 88 337
    K 71 78 74 84 307 1019
    (Final 6.7 7.0 7.5 4.2 7.4 8.0 10.3 7.6 8.7 9.0) 76.4 1095.4

    7 WALSH, John K DRC
    P 90 95 92 90 367
    S 44 39 47 62 192
    K 62 66 64 63 255 814

    8 FLEMING, Daniel WTSC
    P
    S
    K DNS
    FINAL RESULT
    50 m Rifle 3 Positions - Women

    1 Ms. MINETT, Louise INT
    P 89 89 178
    S 93 96 189
    K 81 90 171 538
    (Final 9.6 10.6 9.7 9.8 10.3 10.9 10.0 10.8 9.0 8.0) 98.7 638.7


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Also from targetshootingireland.org:
    What an expert
    Written by the600man on 2005-09-05 21:06:13

    You must be a crack shot yourself! You must know everything. Do you know the lotto numbers for next week?
    Written by sparks on 2005-09-05 22:00:12
    Next week's lotto numbers? No. The numbers of attendees at the Nationals for the last few years? Yes. Saying that 3 is less than 14 is hardly rocket science y'know...
    Written by ShaneFlynn on 2005-09-06 23:18:52
    "It is literally true, even if it sounds rather comical, that god has specially appointed me to this city as though it were a large thoroughbred horse, which because if its great size is inclined to be lazy, and needs the stimulation of some stinging fly. It seems to me that god has attached me to the city to perform the office of such a fly, and all day long I never cease to settle here, there and everywhere, rousing, persuading, reproving, every one of you."
    A little exaggerated, but you get the point. :D
    Shane
    Written by fullbore on 2005-09-07 01:16:15
    No need for an Apology, Shane, Poets, Politicians and Craftsmen all miss the point. Good analogy though, hope history does not repeat :D
    Negative People
    Written by biggun on 2005-09-07 13:56:11
    Lookees like you guys in the NTSA need to by some fly spray! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    Wasn't calling you a fly sparks :D far from it. Except for fullbore, the quote seemed slightly misunderstood.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    More from targetshootingireland.org:
    Written by clegg on 2005-09-07 16:58:26
    "A fly may sting a stately horse and make him wince; but one is but an insect, and the other is a horse still."

    Samuel Johnson
    Written by sparks on 2005-09-07 17:11:59
    :sigh
    I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.
    --Ralph Waldo Emerson
    Written by ShaneFlynn on 2005-09-07 20:39:04
    Point proved fullbore
    Written by ShaneFlynn on 2005-09-07 20:39:53
    :p
    horse with no name
    Written by fullbore on 2005-09-07 23:25:57
    I don't think fly spray is the answer It's not the fly, more the horse-and they shoot horses don't they?
    Horse Manure
    Written by the600man on 2005-09-08 22:14:57
    With all this talk of fly's and horses there seems to be plenty of manure in this field. May be the lead speaker of complaints can plough you guys to the promised land. Possibly at your AGM you could nominate the "inteligent one" as in Jose Mouriniho is known as the "Special One" to have their own tv show like Eddie Hobbs in rip off republic, and call it "rip off shooting sport organisations in Ireland." Now that would make better entertainment than all this poetry. But you know, Judge Judy would get a better viewing rating. You never answered my question, It is Sparks I think! Are you a a crack shot yourself?
    Written by 109shooter on 2005-09-08 23:02:02
    "and they shoot horses don't they?"

    Only the useless ones fullbore :grin
    Mystic sparks
    Written by fullbore on 2005-09-09 01:28:58
    How can Sparks be accused of not answering a question he wasn't asked? Come on 600man play fair. Judge Judy would rule this out of order.
    Written by sparks on 2005-09-09 09:25:13
    Define a "crack shot" 600, and I'll tell you, but I'd suspect not. Thing is, we're not talking about how well you can shoot, but about how the sport is being run. Administration, not shooting, you understand?
    Written by sparks on 2005-09-09 10:36:52
    Only the useless ones fullbore

    Molann an obair an fear...

    I'm beginning to think that the AGM this weekend may actually be lacking in humour...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭les45


    Sparks ,dont worry you can always shoot Practical Pistol and have some real fun :D:D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    You're encouraging me to learn to shoot at humanoid targets after that!!! :eek: :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    And now I see that the comments are deleted from the website, as though the disagreements and criticisms will vanish if we don't talk about them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    And now the entire article has been taken off the website...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    Did this not happen last time too...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Yeah. Like I said in the AGM thread, this doesn't fill one with confidence that this year's committee will be different from last year's :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    And now they've put it back up but you can't add comments.

    "Of course everything went well we haven't had a single complaint....." :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    And that's to be the standard from now on, I've been told PL.
    So obviously, there won't be any more problems from now on.
    :rolleyes:


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