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Selling a polish import

  • 31-08-2005 7:11pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭


    Car is a 1985 Audi 80 1.8 Petrol with LHD, 300,000km on the clock. I have no idea of the general condition

    A Polish girl* I know has the car, but the papers are in her mothers name. Girl has lived here for more than a year, mother is in Poland.

    A guy **wants** the car. Buy and Sell has these newer models. Contemporary car are in the €300-900 bracket.

    Advice?
    Audi 80 2.8L petrol 1992, Leinster Co. Dublin €4500.00
    , saloon, manual, ABS, alarm, alloys, CD, c/l, e/a, e/m, e/w, f/s, p/s, s/r, immac condition 087-2770201 [clip]
    Audi 80 1.9L 1994, Leinster Co. Dublin €1300.00
    , 4 dr, saloon, manual, NCT No/, dark, black, c/l, p/s, s/r, 1.9 TDi, new tyres, new timing & fan belts, 087-2445336 [clip]

    https://www.ros.ie/VRTEnquiryServlet/showCarCalculator
    STATISTICAL CODE: 41485030
    MAKE: AUDI
    MODEL: 80 1.8 (1972 - 1991)
    VERSION: LHD 04DR / SALOON / MANUAL / PETROL ONLY /
    MILEAGE: 300000 KILOMETERS

    The information requested in respect of the vehicle shown is indicated below.
    DATE OF FIRST REGISTRATION(MM/YY): JANUARY 1985
    OPEN MARKET SELLING PRICE:
    (applicable on enquiry date) €865
    RATE OF TAX: 25.0%
    VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX:
    (payable on enquiry date) €315

    * Yes, she's hot.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Eurorunner


    Just one word of warning - not from personal experience and the situation might have changed since but....

    If you go to insure a LHD car over here with an irish insurer, my understanding is that theres only one insurer that will take it on (at least that was the situation a few years ago).
    Now, if theres only one irish insurance co. prepared to give you cover, you know your going to get a great deal :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭ds20prefecture


    I do not believe that is true about LHD - any of them will insure a LHD car. There might be a small premium, but I doubt it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,560 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

    Not only will you be loaded about an extra €150 for insurance for it being a LHD, but they are far more dangerous to drive and overtake with on Ireland's glorious single-lane 'National' roads.

    Secondly, 300K on the clock? Most of the Apollo missions didn't clock up that kind of milage. Most of the fancy Audi electrics on the car would be well due to fail around about now.

    Thirdly, as we move into an age of increasing oil costs, you're seriously thinking of buying a 1.8L bus? The yearly road tax on that puppy alone would be kicking the arse off €700.

    Run away. RUN AWAY!

    Get yourself something sensible and simple for that kind of money - those old Micras/Almeras/Primeras/Corollas run forever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    Thirdly, as we move into an age of increasing oil costs, you're seriously thinking of buying a 1.8L bus? The yearly road tax on that puppy alone would be kicking the arse off €700.

    I jus bought a 2L, tax is €539. If you want to pay €700 for a 1.8 go ahead, but can I have the €216 change? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭PlayaFlow


    Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

    Not only will you be loaded about an extra €150 for insurance for it being a LHD, but they are far more dangerous to drive and overtake with on Ireland's glorious single-lane 'National' roads.

    Secondly, 300K on the clock? Most of the Apollo missions didn't clock up that kind of milage. Most of the fancy Audi electrics on the car would be well due to fail around about now.

    Thirdly, as we move into an age of increasing oil costs, you're seriously thinking of buying a 1.8L bus? The yearly road tax on that puppy alone would be kicking the arse off €700.

    Run away. RUN AWAY!

    Get yourself something sensible and simple for that kind of money - those old Micras/Almeras/Primeras/Corollas run forever.


    Why do people call cars "buses"????? ....so not cool


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,560 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    PlayaFlow wrote:
    Why do people call cars "buses"????? ....so not cool
    Sorry, 'pimp ride' it is then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    300.000 km ...that's close to 200.000 good old miles ...on a 1.8 petrol engine

    Why pay money for that?

    an 85 A80 isn't exactly a design icon either, is it ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,994 ✭✭✭ambro25


    Get yourself something sensible and simple for that kind of money - those old Micras/Almeras/Primeras/Corollas run forever.

    Boards.ie Supersenses™ picking up some nefarious waves of unsatisfied covetness :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,264 ✭✭✭RicardoSmith


    ....
    Get yourself something sensible and simple for that kind of money - those old Micras/Almeras/Primeras/Corollas run forever.

    ...and bore yourself to death.. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Um, read the post again

    1) A Polish girl* I know has the car
    2) A guy **wants** the car.
    3) I am not that guy
    4) I just want the hot Polish girl happy. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Victor wrote:
    4) I just want the hot Polish girl happy. :D


    Jesus people, how did you all miss that this is the main point of the excercise.

    And victor, who doesnt like making hot girls happy. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭PlayaFlow


    Sorry, 'pimp ride' it is then.

    how about just 'car'......only 3 letters , same as b-u-s .
    ....except less reterded sounding.
    pimp ride would also be better, i suppose. :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    would the new owner not have to pay VRT....?which I would Imagen should be more than the value of the car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,560 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    ambro25 wrote:
    Boards.ie Supersenses™ picking up some nefarious waves of unsatisfied covetness :D
    You wouldn't like to know what I drive, I covet very few!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Dub13 wrote:
    would the new owner not have to pay VRT....?which I would Imagen should be more than the value of the car


    How'd you figure that? the OMSP of the car woulld probably be around €200. VRT @ 30% of €200 = €60.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Victor wrote:
    but the papers are in her mothers name

    Bummer. If she owned the car herself, she could get it registered for free (well a nominal wee fee)

    Now it will be up to your man to pay the VRT of a very small amount on top of what he is paying her
    Victor wrote:
    Car is a 1985 Audi 80 1.8 Petrol

    At first I thought 1985 was a typo and you meant 1995, but I guess not. The 1.8 petrol was only available in the pre-1991 makeover model

    I guess its value minus the VRT charge is not really a material positive amount, probably no more than €100-€200. Unless your man plans to drive it illegally that is and that way can avoid penalty points, tax, insurance, current bans from driving etc. as the guards don't seem to be bothered about foreign reg cars...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,364 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    ...and bore yourself to death.. :rolleyes:

    And a midieval LHD Audi 80 won't. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,264 ✭✭✭RicardoSmith


    bazz26 wrote:
    And a midieval LHD Audi 80 won't. :confused:

    LHD would mean pretty exciting overtaking on the Ashbourne Road... :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭greglo23


    OPEN MARKET SELLING PRICE:
    (applicable on enquiry date) €865

    i wonder are there any staff in the revenue looking to buy some cars cos at that kind of valuation i could find them a few nice ones. ! :D


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,246 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Victor wrote:
    * Yes, she's hot.
    I feel that in order to answer this query, I would need more info on the above. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 602 ✭✭✭IrishRover


    The minimum VRT payable on any car is €315.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,787 ✭✭✭prospect


    IrishRover wrote:
    The minimum VRT payable on any car is €315.

    Being 20 years old, this yoke probably nearly qualifies as a classic car!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Saw this and thought of you. Sorry just couldn't resist it. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 602 ✭✭✭IrishRover


    I think I might have seen that before Hagar ;)


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,246 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    prospect wrote:
    Being 20 years old, this yoke probably nearly qualifies as a classic car!!
    AFAIK a calssic from a taxation perspective is at least 30 years old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    IrishRover wrote:
    The minimum VRT payable on any car is €315.

    Didn't know that, thanks for sharing. That makes above car worthless really...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 602 ✭✭✭IrishRover


    Yeah, unless she can import it VRT free by having owned it outside the state for a year etc...
    It doesn't sound like it's her car to import/sell anyway. The mother could transfer it to her in her home country then post the ownership documents out to her but it does sound like a lot of hassle.
    Maybe it's worth it if he's trying to get into her knickers alright but it might be simpler to just pay her directly. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,332 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    OPEN MARKET SELLING PRICE:
    (applicable on enquiry date) €865


    that's nuts - where the hell do they get those prices from
    that car is worth nothing, nada, zilcho.
    if yer man (is he crazy?) didn't want to buy it she'd have to pay someone to take it away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 602 ✭✭✭IrishRover


    Yeah true.
    Just thinking about it again there though and they don't ask for proof of identity when you're importing a car and paying VRT but I guess if you were to want to import it VRT exempt then proving you owned it outside the state for a year would mean proof of ID obviously. So if her mother did transfer it to her she wouldn't have owned it at all outside of the state. So I guess it seems like the only way to import it VRT free is to have her mother fly over here and call in to the extremely courteous and polite people at her local money collection depot. Even then, I suppose there's a waiting period before she can sell it on.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 201 ✭✭Rodney Trotter


    A 1985 LHD, non-VRT'd, 300k km Audi petrol is worth?


    Nothing. Absolutley nothing. It would cost you €150 to scrap it.

    I'd charge her about €400 to take it off her hands. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    kbannon wrote:
    I feel that in order to answer this query, I would need more info on the above. :D

    I second this motion.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Can I have the hot polish chick.....I dont want the car.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 602 ✭✭✭IrishRover


    The guy who wants it probably has one himself and wants to break it for parts. Maybe if you could find a way to make sure it is stripped and never goes on the road again it wouldn't have to be "imported" as such.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    kbannon wrote:
    I feel that in order to answer this query, I would need more info on the above. :D
    Tall, blonde, good looking, good English, but with an non-placeable accent, holidays in Jamaica and Tenerife ....


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