what is the best piece of advice to give to a player?

shoutman

Simple question, what is the best piece of advice to give to a nl holdem player,
beginner or experienced?

jtsuited

beginner or experienced?????? I think you'll find that the best piece of advice you can give to a beginner would differ greatly from the best advice you could give to an experienced player. So i don't think this is a 'simple question'.
My advice for a beginner would be go and read every single thing you can, including all those boring hand histories we hate to enjoy reading. Be constantly willing to learn and be eager to absorb information. You get years of experience through reading.

Fatboydim

Who is experienced enough to give an experienced player advice?

So I'll just deal with the beginner advice and it is simple.

Play less hands and fold more often.

califano

PAY ATTENTION (even in pots your not involved in). i still constantly have to remind myself of this.

MadsL

Don't become emotionally involved.


If only I could listen - I'm a tiltmeister

Tackle

When you haven't won a decent pot in a while and your balance is decreasing slowly don't get reckless, keep minimizing your losses because your turn to win the cash will come and the money you saved(even though you lost it:)) will stand to you.
Not recommeded for beginners: There is big money to be made calling bluffs, mark down the bluffers and their style and watch for the tell tale bets. You should be willing to put your stack on the line.

Tackle

MadsL wrote:

Don't become emotionally involved.


If only I could listen - I'm a tiltmeister

That's great advice. If I loose a few too many pots to the same player, especially if he's good, I board the train to tilt central where I end up depositing my stack in his account. Really have to work on getting more emotionally detached when I'm getting beat.

DeVore

You cant win if you are afraid to lose.
You can't win them all.
You aren't as far behind as you probably think. (23s vs AKo = 40 vs 60)
Everyone gets lucky and unlucky, don't beat yourself up for either.
Learn then odds then start learning the game.


DeV.

Azureus

To get Tom Murphy a nose job and a personality the ****

Keeks

DeVore wrote:

Learn then odds then start learning the game.

Any where is a good place to start learning the odds?

Lafortezza

Azureus wrote:

To get Tom Murphy a nose job and a personality the ****

Banned for a week for personal abuse unless there's some cute little in-joke going on between you a DeV that isn't obviously apparent.

Rnger

shut up and deal

RotalicaV

Be paitent, a good poker player will be looking to fold 9 out of 10 hands. Wait for the right cards.

Learning the odds, not like math grinding.. just to be able to give yourself a rough idea of what position you're in, and what might be against you.

kincsem

Play about three times a week in the cheapest tournaments for about six months. You might learn something. If at the end of that you are not able to reach a final table now and again QUIT.

Marq

Raise.

Culchie

kincsem wrote:

Play about three times a week in the cheapest tournaments for about six months. You might learn something. If at the end of that you are not able to reach a final table now and again QUIT.

Not necessarily so.

If you learn to drive, but don't take proper driving lessons, the chances are you'll fail your test.

Poker is a learning curve, try and shorten it, by playing, but also observing what the better players do and read a few books on Poker.

And like anything else in life....learn from your many many mistakes.

smurph

take a bad beat on the chin. Every bone in your body wants to throttle the pleb who called your raise and filled a gut buster on the river, but smile and take it. There is nothing worse than someone putting a big chewed up toffee face on when they lose. Thats about it, and enjoy playing, remember its supposed to be fun.

Dub13

look around you when you are at the table it the best way to shorten the learning curve.

As my father always says
"a wise man learns from his mistakes,but a very wise man learns from other peoples mistacks.." if you uses this advice when playing poker you are onto a winner.

Basically look at other people losing their money and learn.

ntlbell

Advice I recived and still ignore sometimes due to stupidity

For a beginner.

Be paitent, it''s very easy to get bored and start looking for action with the first half decent cards you get, use your time when your not in hands, looking for habbits in other players betting and their style of play, if you watch poker on tv remember alot of this is just highlights of play, they tend not to show you hours of people folding cards, who would want to watch it? and remember it's not always action action action.

If there's a really good player at the table instead of worrying about him all night, watch him and learn from him, same goes for really bad players at the table watch them and learn from their mistakes.

Get used to spending a night of folding and raising, avoid constant flat calling and hoping to get lucky on the flop.

Try and mix your play up a bit the size of your raises and what you raise with, keep other players guessing but don't be stupid and try overplay weak hands when you know you're beat.

For live play you don't need to sit their covering up every inch of your face and have an angry stare on all night, enjoy the game, get talking to the players around you after all it is suppose to be fun.

I'm new enough to playing "live" tournys apart from pub games, so if any of this advice is wrong feel free to correct it

most of all enjoy yourself

TimFoil

wear deodorant

Tackle

Don't play Q9.

JuliusFranco

If some one says that they are doing a survey and wants to see your penis.
Don't show it
He is not doing a survey and only wants to see your penis.

for application to the poker, replace the word "penis" with "cards"

Ste05

JuliusFranco wrote:

If some one says that they are doing a survey and wants to see your penis.
Don't show it
He is not doing a survey and only wants to see your penis.

for application to the poker, replace the word "penis" with "cards"

Now there's some good advice.... LMFAO

breadmonkey

TimFoil wrote:

wear deodorant

Shouldn't that be "wear sunscreen "!

air_vent

Nver be afraid to muck a set of cards even if your pot committed.

Never feel as if you have to play even if you have a fair portion of your chips in.

Somtimes very difficult to learn and frustrating but will keep you going longer!!

roryc

Wash

NickyOD

Stay the **** away from my blinds.

patmac

shoutman wrote:

Simple question, what is the best piece of advice to give to a nl holdem player,
beginner or experienced?

If you can't spot the sucker at the table in the first 15 minutes then your the sucker!

NickyOD

patmac wrote:

If you can't spot the sucker at the table in the first 15 minutes then your the sucker!

Shouldn't that be "you are"

Ste05

air_vent wrote:

Nver be afraid to muck a set of cards even if your pot committed.

Never feel as if you have to play even if you have a fair portion of your chips in.

Somtimes very difficult to learn and frustrating but will keep you going longer!!

Wouldn't be so sure about this one, if you're pot committed ..... you're pot committed .... end of.. My advice would be to follow the rest of the advice you're given above and by so doing you'll keep yourself from being in positions when you are pot committed with no outs. You'll always get unlucky when someone has AA against your KK but that's poker. Folding when you're pot committed will only make people more likely to bluff you later!!

There are times when a fold might be the right thing to do, but that's getting very messy.....

kincsem

I guess my earlier advice was not entirely correct -

Read poker books and watch poker on TV for six months. Do not play any live poker. You are now ready. Then start playing in the big cash game at the Fitz. Bring €5,000 each night for the first month. Let me know when you are ready to play .

Tackle

Don't (semi)bluff away all your cash after raising and missing with AK.