How would I hide my ip address ?

cock_adodel_do

How would I hide my ip address so the mods/admins can't see who I am ?

astec123

In short there is no way to do so. As anything you do has a work around. If a mod admin chooses to find out about you they can. I have to do it all the time on our forums keeping an eye on certain users. They go to extreems to hide it but as I said where there is a will there is a way and that applies to both parties. The only way to do it is to do a technique they dont know of. And on a large site like this that would last a very short time.

cock_adodel_do

Ah ok, - thanks astec123.

Farls

put black tape over it.

get rid off that animated gif in your sig too... :rolleyes:

cock_adodel_do

Farls wrote:

put black tape over it.

get rid off that animated gif in your sig too... :rolleyes:

It's not animated... :rolleyes:

Thanks, what thickness of tape ?

dahamsta

astec123 wrote:

In short there is no way to do so. As anything you do has a work around. If a mod admin chooses to find out about you they can.

Sorry, but no. A proxy will hide the user's IP address unless the admins (coincidentally) have access to the particular proxy the person used, or the logfiles of the proxy server were subpoenaed (which is pretty unlikely unless the user is actually doing something illegal). A true anonymous proxy would make things even harder, since it won't be logging and investigators would have a more difficult trail to follow.

All of which means that technically, it's next to impossible for someone to hide their IP address, but in practice it's extremely difficult for administrators of a site like this to discover one masked by a proxy server. Of course the Boards admins have a couple of ins, but even with that you'd be relying on coincidence, and they shouldn't - and likely wouldn't - be using those ins anyway.

Oh, and...

cock_adodel_do wrote:

It's not animated...

...yes, it is.

adam

cock_adodel_do

dahamsta wrote:

...yes, it is.

adam

Animated - A cartoon for example, so as to create the illusion of motion.

dahamsta

I can see now why the OP would want to hide his IP address. Arseholes often do.

dlofnep

Dahamsta is correct.

Your pc [pc ip] --> Proxy --> [packet now has proxy's ip as a header] --> boards.ie (admin views your ip address) [proxy's ip]

I don't see why people get so hung up on ip addresses anyways. There should be no reason to mask your ip address on boards unless you're a troll.

Beruthiel

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How would I hide my ip address so the mods/admins can't see who I am

:rolleyes:

ecksor

Banned, although I'm sure you'll be back.

The original poster wants to hide his IP address because I've banned more of his accounts than I can count at this point. His name is Patrick Murphy, a 26 year old man from tallaght and he has a company called **** (formerly our mobiles although I don't think he ever actually bothered talking to the CRO about that one) and he likes to continue to use boards for pimping his business.

However, we want him to get lost due to the underhanded nature of it and the numerous complaints about him ranging from selling dodgy gear to threats of physical violence. Basically he's a creep that I'd advise everyone to keep well clear of.

Talliesin

ecksor wrote:

he has a company called **** (formerly our mobiles although I don't think he ever actually bothered talking to the CRO about that one)

No, **** was registered on the 28th of January as operating from 74 Killinarden Heights, Tallagh, Dublin 24.

It's a business name, so maybe he's a sole trader rather than a company owner.

galwaydude18

I have dealt with this guy a few times. even sent him a phone that he fixed for me for free. My bro even sent him a phone to be flashed and unlocked... No hassle what so ever at all. Highly recommened him!

Tar.Aldarion

ha he is still around.i am enjoying his further desperation.

thanks_

Thanks G Dude !

_Turismo4

astec123 wrote:

In short there is no way to do so. As anything you do has a work around. If a mod admin chooses to find out about you they can. I have to do it all the time on our forums keeping an eye on certain users. They go to extreems to hide it but as I said where there is a will there is a way and that applies to both parties. The only way to do it is to do a technique they dont know of. And on a large site like this that would last a very short time.

I would have thought where is know way of escaping the eye of big bother.

Capt'n Midnight

cock_adodel_do wrote:

How would I hide my ip address so the mods/admins can't see who I am ?

If you do then it's a great way to put yourself on the radar.

Don't forget that if you manage to use a third party to anonomise yourself it could be blocked too.

And besides Bayesian filtering on certain sub-parts of posts could be used as another way of ID'ing people with multiple accounts. If you can be sneaky , so can they.

NutJob

Its possible but complicated and most of the ways are illegal under most laws. Usually involves using another person’s computer (hacking or using a bouncer). I do not condone or recommend hacking but its ur life and its 15 years in Ireland for “attempted” electronic break and enter.

Since Wingate proxies were abandoned at least 4 years ago bouncing through a proxy to hide anything without being logged is a miracle.

To be honest the only option u have nowdays to mask more than hide is to rent a Unix shell somewhere and use it for irc. Again about as anonymous as using ur first name 


-End of rant

smeggle

Actually with a lot of unsecured wifi networks out and about - most (very) incorrectly configured, proxying of them is a sure fire way of going un-noticed or hidden for a period of time.
Even if someones useing wifi locally in say a home network? and they don't really know what there doing but can do as the Eircom advert says - surf in the kitchen, swing in the garden and yello thanks much mate - I'll just borrow your wifi for a wee while....now yours ..and yours...

hidden proxies are easier to get nowadays with via this method than any I know of. Not sure the legality of it but I'd assume technically your hijacking and therefore operating illegally.
Can be done though and your not really breaking into the system as it's allready wide open for use. Your just another 192.168.0.? on there network. Pretty hard to catch you then..

And no I do not use this method nor would I condone it and if I did find anyone doing it I'd report it. Period! but it can be done.

the_syco

Technically, its possibe, but not as a long term solution.

It'd mean dialing up from random phone box's (and no, I won't tell you how to dial your laptop from a phonebox).

There are other ways, but I doubt you'd grasp the basic principles of it, and I doubt the mods would like me telling you how to do so. Also it'd be proberly illegal, and I don't want boards to get in trouble over it.

MrScruff

http://www.anonymization.net/ tbh

p2kone

one good way to hide ip address from the outside in is to set your router to block all icmp traffic

NutJob

That still shows ur router adress which technically is ur real ip adress.

Gavin

http://tor.eff.org/ - Tor
http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/index_en.html - Jap

Two of the better privacy enhancing networks in place.

Gav

NutJob

Verb wrote:

http://tor.eff.org/ - Tor
http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/index_en.html - Jap

Two of the better privacy enhancing networks in place.

Gav

Onion routing works well but again the system usually keeps logs same as proxy systems.



Oh and take it from a web admin who data mines we identify as many users as we can and what they are looking at on a site using everything from ip addresses to hidden ids in page requests. Its standard practice nowadays.


Why do you think sites always push you gently to login first?


In the words of Bill Hicks
"anyone here in marketing shoot yourself"

Gavin

NutJob wrote:

Onion routing works well but again the system usually keeps logs same as proxy systems.

This involves every single router being compromised and logging all connections. Unlikely in a network of around 200 disparate nodes.

Oh and take it from a web admin who data mines we identify as many users as we can and what they are looking at on a site using everything from ip addresses to hidden ids in page requests. Its standard practice nowadays.

Then use a privacy enhancing proxy to strip HTTP traffic before sending it through TOR, as they advise. Privoxy.

The original poster was concerned with anonymity anyway, not linkability.


Gav

NutJob

Original poster was trying to stop his account being banned on boards (creating a new one each time think sticky said he had been banned a few times). Only the first link in the onion routing chain needs to log.




If it’s simply to change your ip to half ass cover your tracks no problem use a proxy ocean free have one east had one.



In theory onion routing cant be traced but I guarantee if u pull a big enough stunt it will be traced.



Issues like this came up with anonymous re-mailers a few years back when they were being abused and a large proportion were eventually forced to maintain logs as a result of court actions in many countries.



That’s not to say that I don’t have great faith in the EEF. I always have but remember your isp logs a large proportion of traffic two.





As a recent example iv read a press release saying that there is a movement to prosecute 17 Irish P2P file sharers with is headed by Sony BMG and they were tracked down by using both ISP logs and scans of various P2P networks.

Gavin

NutJob wrote:

Original poster was trying to stop his account being banned on boards (creating a new one each time think sticky said he had been banned a few times). Only the first link in the onion routing chain needs to log.

This is not true. Tor uses a concept of circuits. A circuit is established between each node in the route and the client. Only when the circuit is established fully is traffic sent through it. Each packet is encrypted for each particular node, this is the 'Onion' effect that prevents exactly the attack that you mention.

The only thing that the first node can log is outgoing connections to other nodes, not their final destination. Only if every single node is compromised and is logging all connections can the client be traced back.

If it’s simply to change your ip to half ass cover your tracks no problem use a proxy ocean free have one east had one.



In theory onion routing cant be traced but I guarantee if u pull a big enough stunt it will be traced.

The current routers don't log. There is no way (apart from those stated below) to determine a users true IP if all the machines don't log. So no, it won't be traced.

Issues like this came up with anonymous re-mailers a few years back when they were being abused and a large proportion were eventually forced to maintain logs as a result of court actions in many countries.

They have documention on this subject on their website.

That’s not to say that I don’t have great faith in the EEF. I always have but remember your isp logs a large proportion of traffic two.

Using Tor, your traffic is encrypted over TLS before it enters the ISP network.

As a recent example iv read a press release saying that there is a movement to prosecute 17 Irish P2P file sharers with is headed by Sony BMG and they were tracked down by using both ISP logs and scans of various P2P networks.

Yes ? Of course this is doable.

There are several attacks against TOR, but they either only reveal linkability or involve a global adversary. Now, I don't know the extent of Echelon, but I'd be rather surprised if they log every single packet travelling through the Internet and have the ability to perform accurate correlation attacks using frequency analysis.

Gav

NutJob

I stand corrected on onion routing


Sorry and thanks for staraightening that out.

I didnt realise the first hop was encrypted