Personal Injury Claims

Sandals

They really get to me.

I did work experience with a solicitors a few years ago and the majority of their cases were PI ones. They had cabinets full of polaroids of stairs and cars and potholes and stuff and that was all this seemingly reputable firm appeared to do.

Personally I feel the vast majority of these claims are dishonest and it is the reason I decided against becoming a lawyer.

Gazza22

I know and while its a worldwide thing, i think irish people seem to have developed the attitude that this is ok...not being mean here, but alot of common people also seem to think this fine...

Sandals

there was a minor incident with a bus pulling onto a curb in waterford city last year, no-one was seriousely injured but some bystanders did have to jump out of the way.

My cousin saw two old ladies run towards the bus,throw two icecreams away fall on the floor pretend to be injured and they were then carried off to Waterford Regional Hospital.

Nightwish

it does my head in, as it adds to the cost of everything in this country through higher premiums. I remember when Prime Time did a special on this topic and they interveiwed this family in Tralee, who's young son had sued (through the parents) Tralee UDC 5 or 6 times. I mean, its bloody obvious that they were just scamming.
Its always the scumbags that do it too

Catsmokinpot

you can thank america for the ambulance chasers

although in fairness you would claim for medical expenses. medical bills are fairly feckin expensive nowadays

jesus_thats_gre

Nightwish wrote:

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Its always the scumbags that do it too

Now this is the biggest bull**** statement I have ever read on boards..

This is totally untrue.. Every element of society are guilty of making illegal claims out of greed.

Sparky

my dad once fell over a 3ft wall down in wexford at night time outside a pub, the lights should of being on, he looked like he was in a fight the next day the way his face was, he now has a permanant scar on his forehead from it, but he didnt claim because he recons that he walked away from the accident and isnt any worse off, if we were all like this our premiums would be cheaper.

Rb

No, i'd have to agree, its the skangers or "common" people(quoting gazza) who are after illegal claims...


edit: took out a comment that i just know alot of you would of moaned about

seamus

Sparky_S wrote:

he didnt claim because he recons that he walked away from the accident and isnt any worse off

And of course, because it was

at night time outside a pub

grimloch

rb_ie wrote:

No, i'd have to agree, its the skangers or "common" people(quoting gazza) who are after illegal claims...


edit: took out a comment that i just know alot of you would of moaned about

I doubt that, greed is not the exclusive domain of 'scangers' and 'common people' as you put it.

Nightwish

greed is not exclusive to skangers, however when the stories of illegal claimants make it into the papers/tv or simply from cases I've known about in my locality, the vast majority are made by skangers.

Sparky

seamus wrote:

And of course, because it was

yeah but he wasnt drunk, thats the thing, plus i suppose if he did claim off the owners he wouldnt be liked in there again.

Lord Oz

Not exactly personal injury but it reminds me of the case in america where a woman in America(where else would this happen?) who left her jeep running with the handbrake off and left it alone. It then crashed and she sued the manufacturer...and won.

grimloch

Lord Oz wrote:

Not exactly personal injury but it reminds me of the case in america where a woman in America(where else would this happen?) who left her jeep running with the handbrake off and left it alone. It then crashed and she sued the manufacturer...and won.

/smacks head off table.

Good god, that is shocking. And they wonder why they have all these stupid lawsuits.

harney

It's nothing especially new to this country.

I remember hearing as a child (up to 20 years ago) about people walking around with Collars for whiplash injuries until the day after their case was over.

The cash in their pocket seemed to prompt miricale cures :rolleyes:

pred racer

I would like to see the law changed so that you are in some way responsible for your own actions.
you Fell into a hole? .........look where you are going

There is obviously a need for punishing a person/company for negligence
but some responsibility has to fall on the person involved.

Also on the subject of compo,(now I know whiplash etc is a different thing)
If you break your arm for eg. If your hospital bills are paid and ur time off work is compensated, and you have made a full recovery then feck off.

Do these people not realise that they will pay back their entire claim over the course of their lives in elevated premiums, more expensive goods and services etc.

And quite apart from that these spongin, low life, lying, scumbags (and by scumbags I do not mean a particular class, as far as I can see all levels of society are equally culpable) have ruined the feckin country!!! you cant do anything fun anymore. "sorry you cant do that cause we are not covered if you do" I have to get special insurance so my daughters friends can come over to ride her pony! I cant get a bouncy castle for my sons birthday cause my insurance doesnt cover me!!!!!

As you can probably tell I feel quite strongly on this issue

****!!!

Sparky

i think they should have a comedian as a judge so he can take the piss off people who claim mad things.

pred racer

Sparky_S wrote:

i think they should have a comedian as a judge so he can take the piss off people who claim mad things.

Im with ya sparky, Neil tobin for Judge

grimloch

pred racer wrote:

I would like to see the law changed so that you are in some way responsible for your own actions.
you Fell into a hole? .........look where you are going

There is obviously a need for punishing a person/company for negligence
but some responsibility has to fall on the person involved.

Also on the subject of compo,(now I know whiplash etc is a different thing)
If you break your arm for eg. If your hospital bills are paid and ur time off work is compensated, and you have made a full recovery then feck off.

Do these people not realise that they will pay back their entire claim over the course of their lives in elevated premiums, more expensive goods and services etc.

And quite apart from that these spongin, low life, lying, scumbags (and by scumbags I do not mean a particular class, as far as I can see all levels of society are equally culpable) have ruined the feckin country!!! you cant do anything fun anymore. "sorry you cant do that cause we are not covered if you do" I have to get special insurance so my daughters friends can come over to ride her pony! I cant get a bouncy castle for my sons birthday cause my insurance doesnt cover me!!!!!

As you can probably tell I feel quite strongly on this issue

****!!!

The amount of things that have now become inaccessible is unreal. I was unaware of the Bouncy Castle thing.

In school. "It's cold outside sir, can we stay inside for break?" Response:"No, not for insurance reasons."

I wonder what we will actually be able to do in a few years time that aren't restricted by 'insurance reasons'.

Flukey

The compo culture is ridiculous. Pay their medical bills like the price of the plaster, but stuff all this trauma and psychological rubbish. You know the kind of thing:

"Oooh, I cut my finger and a whole drop of blood came out and now I am psychologically scarred for life. Pay up."

It certainly isn't confined to lower end of society. There is plenty of it higher up too.

Dinner

I despise this "compo culture" and members of every class are prone to exploiting their circumstances to get money.

One story I heard (got it in an email so it must be true ( :rolleyes: ))

Woman in McDonalds had a fight with her boyfriend and threw her drink over him. She then proceeded to walk out and slip over the puddle she made. And needless to say she sued McDonalds and got thousands.

muckwarrior

My girlfriend was told this story by one of her skanger pupils. She spoke as if it was a normal everyday occurrence.

Basically the bath in the upstairs bathroom of the girl's house was leakin through the ceiling, so the mother called a plumber to fix it. When the plumber was workin and bangin around upstairs the plaster fell from the ceiling below. When the mother walked in and seen this she immediately walked next door and got her neighbour to batter the shíte outta her, black eyes the lot. She then walked back into her own house and started screamin and cryin pretending that the plaster had fell on top of her. All so that she could make a claim!

Sam Vimes

www.stellaawards.com . nuff said

bang_bang_rosie

I get so angry at these "fishers" I have to pay thousands a year for insurance to protect myself against them.

Personally I blame the judges as they are the ones with the power to stop bogus and insignificant personal injury claims.

There are now schools in England that have banned tig/ chase, red rover and a lot of other games because they're afriad of claims. Children can no longer have the same fun or learning experiences because of it. It's worse that being wrapped in protective bubble wrap.

It's up to the averge person to report people they know filiing for bogus claims.
And it's up to the law to remember that people have accidents through their own negligence, IT IS NOT ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSES FAULT.

It also makes it more difficult for people with genuine claims.

Ahhhhhhh.... Makes me so angry.

pred racer

Yep... Shop the lyin thievin ****!

neady

There are now schools in England that have banned tig/ chase, red rover and a lot of other games because they're afriad of claims. Children can no longer have the same fun or learning experiences because of it. It's worse that being wrapped in protective bubble wrap.



It doesn't only happen in the UK... running is banned in my daughters primary school for fear of claims. Very sad sign of modern times in Ireland.

Mousie

solicitors dont deal with personal injusry claims anymore it all goes throught www.piab.ie

Sleepy

TBH, I blame the biggest mafia in Ireland: the lawyers.

It'd be extremely easy to get rid of this problem: a three strike rule for solicitors. Have three claims thrown out of court as frivelous and you're out of the Law Society (i.e. can no longer practice law). Solicitors would obviously become very conservative about the types of claims they'd persue which should ensure that only the genuine cases make it to court.

When my mother was going through her divorce she was rear-ended by another car. The guy who rear-ended her was extremely apologetic, paid for the damages to her car and all medical bills (she put her back out, not seriously but enough to require a few trips to an osteopath). This was enough as far as Mum was concerned. He'd apologised and made ammends for the damage he'd done. Her solicitor, on the other hand, was egging her on to sue the guy's insurance and indicated that she'd see a few thousand out of it (which, given that this woman's bills for the divorce were approaching €20,000 at the time would have come in very handy). Luckily my Mum's too principled for that kind of carry on but how many others would be?

Sleepy

Mousie wrote:

solicitors dont deal with personal injusry claims anymore it all goes throught www.piab.ie

Positive changes in the Irish legal system? :eek:

Santa Claus

I remember reading an article in the Irish Times last year about the number of compensation cases taken by people against the OPW from the Phoenix park alone.
The cases ranged from people who had tripped over tree roots that had partially come above the grass, to a man who was chased by a stag during the rutting season and fell in his haste to run away.
But the best ones by far were about 5 people who had hurt themselves climbing over walls or gates to get out of the park after gates had been locked. This was despite the fact that there are signs beside every gate to tell people that the main NCR gate and the parkgate street gate along with the castleknock gate i think are NEVER locked so they can always get out that way.

One guy in particular got €15,000 for twisting his ankle after falling over an exposed tree root !

Unfortunately there is a mentality in Ireland that it's Ok to chance your arm and get free money (thankfully it's not the majority). I mean, just look at all the army deafness cases...I think the best example was when the entire army band were found to have sued and been awarded damages for deafness !!!!

Not trying to make a generalisation here, but a mate of mine who's a garda in a particular area of dublin told me recently that burglarly has gone down by 80% in that area over the past 4 years because it's easier for the criminals to sue for compensation than risk arrest for robbing ! (Does anyone know if there has ever been a conviction for perjury during a compensation claim case...I'm fairly sure I've never seen anyone convicted, just their claim being thrown out).

nlgbbbblth

Nightwish wrote:

greed is not exclusive to skangers, however when the stories of illegal claimants make it into the papers/tv or simply from cases I've known about in my locality, the vast majority are made by skangers.

I agree with this.

Seems like some people are suffering from middle-class self-loathing and are eager to jump on the right-on bandwagon

Kernel

Free money is great! Claim claim claim!

Sam Vimes

it took the boards mods 7 minutes to delete an offensive image of a ladies boobies from a post last week and i saw it and was emotionally scarred. i demand 1 million dollars!!!!1111111111eleven

seamus

You can't prove that image ever existed

pred racer

Im mentally scarred now because I missed it!!

Were they nice?
were they firm?
would they look nice with my head in between them?

I cant get these missing boobies out of my head, ill probably be
fired by the end of the night cause Im doing even less work than normal
due to thinking about "the boobies that might have been"
My solicitor will be on in the morning,
I think twelfty squillion euro should about cover it.

Wanna settle?

nedoo

ahhh boobies!

Sam Vimes

seamus wrote:

You can't prove that image ever existed

but i need the money to pay for pred racer sueing me

hang on, ill sue him back for the mental anguish caused by sueing me. i'm a genius!

pred racer

U settle with me, Ill settle with u, and we'll both sue boards for giving us a litigation Mentality.......are ya on Vimsey??

bang_bang_rosie

Kernel wrote:

Free money is great! Claim claim claim!

Hope you're joking.
It's not 'free', that's the point, it costs you and the rest of us more in insurance premiums.
People who are caught making false claims should be banned from ever making any claims again, that may act as a deterrent. (Harsh I know, but something needs to be done).

JohnCleary

I shouldnt be saying this but oh well..

December 2003, I was involved in a serious accidnet. I had a serious spinal injury, came very close to being paralysed from waist down.

A car drove over me. I did NOT claim because I feel it was my fault that I ended up infront of the car. My life has been affected in a big way from this, but as far as im concerned it was my fault. The way I see it is at least I can walk, whay good would 50-100k be if I was in a wheelchair?

galwaydude

its shocking, my neighbour from years ago convienently caught her finger in her dads car and she got thousands at a time when she needed the money. I wonder was it a accident!!!! Its a sad state of afairs to go after the easy buck.

My own mom was in a bad crash 10 years ago, a tractor pulled out in front of her, she had whiplash for years but she didnt claim, she had her principals and didnt want people thinking she was a money grabbing thief.

Sam Vimes

pred racer wrote:

U settle with me, Ill settle with u, and we'll both sue boards for giving us a litigation Mentality.......are ya on Vimsey??

let's do it. and i've got johnny cochran for my lawer (the guy who got OJ off). you're goin down boards.ie

Sam Vimes

galwaydude wrote:

its shocking, my neighbour from years ago convienently caught her finger in her dads car and she got thousands at a time when she needed the money.

she sued her dad?

Duckjob

neady wrote:

There are now schools in England that have banned tig/ chase, red rover and a lot of other games because they're afriad of claims. Children can no longer have the same fun or learning experiences because of it. It's worse that being wrapped in protective bubble wrap.



It doesn't only happen in the UK... running is banned in my daughters primary school for fear of claims. Very sad sign of modern times in Ireland.

Yeah, this makes me sad, and I'm not even a parent.

When I was growing up, the local kids would all play around together outside. We fell off bikes, off walls, out of trees. We used to make 'trolleys' and push each other down steep hills with no thought to the fact that they had no brakes. I lost track of the number of times, I came home with cuts, bruises, and even with my head 'split open' gushing blood. Yet, our parents always just patched us up and sent us back out to play.

I think it's so sad now that the compensation culture is stifling childrens opportunity to be children.

Kernel

galwaydude wrote:

My own mom was in a bad crash 10 years ago, a tractor pulled out in front of her, she had whiplash for years but she didnt claim, she had her principals and didnt want people thinking she was a money grabbing thief.

Err... well that's not really principals, but foolishness. It wasn't her fault she was injured and she had to suffer for years as a result. That's what compensation is there for and she was well entitled to it.

I know there are people who claim for nothing, but in fairness, if you're entitled to it, that's what the whole system is there for.