Ian Paisley Sermon Collection in MP3 Format

Sponge Bob

Time was when you could hear ranting outside Belfast City Hall on a weekend, it was most most enjoyable free entertainment may I add especially when he was really giving it welly and his flock started to shudder in agreement beside him. .

Here is Ian banging on about LSD ( as in Acid ) and another where he is on about the Harlot of Rome and Popery

Classic Stuff . I snip them up into 20 second full on roars and leave these snippets in peoples voicemail boxes after they miss a call from my mobile (it will play back mp3 ) .

He has not changed his opinions now that he is finally running the majority Unionist party either.

I doubt you are going to get a discussion going on Random Paisley sermons on the politics board


Probably more suited to the cuckoo's nest but we'll try after hours or maybe Humanities first.

Sponge Bob

after hours will do fine, remember to give him 5 minutes to warm up

Paisely is cool. I especially like the quote of his where he compares Catholics to dogs. That is really level headed and politicly responsible comment. :rolleyes:

Here are some choice quotes from Paisley (thanx wikipedia)

"Catholic homes caught fire because they were loaded with petrol bombs; Catholic churches were attacked and burned because they were arsenals and priests handed out sub-machine guns to parishioners"

Massive discrimination in employment and allocation of public housing for Catholics existed because "they breed like rabbits and multiply like vermin".

Deadwing

ah that ian paisley..what a gas charachter.
Is it wrong that my heart lept with joy yesterday when i saw the headline 'IAN PAISLEY CLOSE TO DEATH' in the paper..only to have my hopes dashed by reading the rest and finding out it was when he was sick last year and that he wasnt actually going to die any time soon?
Anyone ever hear that time he was slagging some other politicians lips? i forget the name of the guy...but god it was stupid.

Stephen

It was Brian Cowan (BIFFO) he was slagging about the lips.

scojones

I want to kill him.

segadreamcast

Stephen wrote:

It was Brian Cowan (BIFFO) he was slagging about the lips.

In all fairness, they are pretty easy to slag like. I think this is the only Paisley comment that I could agree with.

deisedevil

sjones wrote:

I want to kill him.

Why he has been left alive is one of the great mystery's of the world. Religion and religious hatred has caused more deaths in the world than any disease has ever done and this pig has caused more religious hatred in ireland than any man has ever done. I'll have a drink the day he dies in celebration and may every catholic family in the north conceive a child that night, that'll put him spinning in his grave ,lol.

segadreamcast

Mmm, hatred solves hatred alright ...

I, on the other hand, offer nothing to Mr. Paisley - despite not agreeing with him at all - I won't resort to 'hating' him, as that's exactly what he wants.

Sponge Bob

NoelRock wrote:

Mmm, hatred solves hatred alright ...

In general yes. I would make an exception for Paisley who almost singlehandedly talked the North into a corner in 1969 which ultimately cost thousands of lives and 10s of Billions of pounds in collateral damage.

One bullet cost about 2c in 1969.

Flukey

deisedevil wrote:

Why he has been left alive is one of the great mystery's of the world. Religion and religious hatred has caused more deaths in the world than any disease has ever done and this pig has caused more religious hatred in ireland than any man has ever done. I'll have a drink the day he dies in celebration and may every catholic family in the north conceive a child that night, that'll put him spinning in his grave ,lol.

It is no mystery as to why he was left alive. He has been the IRA's greatest recruitment officer that they ever had. They'd hardly kill someone that was causing their ranks to swell. Equally he doesn't really want the IRA to go away, as he has built his career on attacking them. So for all these years, they've needed each other.

People cause hatred and death, not religion. The North's problems have nothing to do with religion, but rather power and influence. Read a bit of Irish history and particularly around the times coming up to the start of the troubles and you'll see why they happened.

Neither Catholicism or Protestantism or indeed any religion in the world preaches that we should go and hate our neighbour and kill them. People twist things to make it seem that way, but once they do they are no longer following their religion. It is when people don't follow the teachings of their religions that trouble begins. Many that use religion as an excuse for their actions wouldn't know what the inside of a church/mosque/synagogue looks like. People cause wars. They may use other things like religion as excuses, but it is people that cause wars.

ibanez

By far the most accurate post on Boards.

deisedevil

Flukey wrote:

It is no mystery as to why he was left alive. He has been the IRA's greatest recruitment officer that they ever had. They'd hardly kill someone that was causing their ranks to swell. Equally he doesn't really want the IRA to go away, as he has built his career on attacking them. So for all these years, they've needed each other.

People cause hatred and death, not religion. The North's problems have nothing to do with religion, but rather power and influence. Read a bit of Irish history and particularly around the times coming up to the start of the troubles and you'll see why they happened.

Neither Catholicism or Protestantism or indeed any religion in the world preaches that we should go and hate our neighbour and kill them. People twist things to make it seem that way, but once they do they are no longer following their religion. It is when people don't follow the teachings of their religions that trouble begins. Many that use religion as an excuse for their actions wouldn't know what the inside of a church/mosque/synagogue looks like. People cause wars. They may use other things like religion as excuses, but it is people that cause wars.

People cause wars but they need something to influence others to join their cause.When it comes down to it then yes people are the killers but religion influences people. i said religion kills more than any disease.because of the churches influence on africa and it's views on the use of condoms the spread of aids has increased. the crusades which was in the name of religion caused the deaths of millions.The reformation wars.There was the french religious wars and the thirty years war in england which in fairness was as much about religion as it was about politics but still was influenced by religion. suicide bombers kill thousands every year in the belief that they will have a better standing in the after life. people cause the wars and use religion as an excuse like you said but religion is behind so many wars and is the catalyst for many wars.How much war has been caused in the name of islam across the middle east.How many jews did Hitler kill because of their RELIGION. Heads of religion don't ask for war or condone it and religious teachings in most religions don't condone war but it still comes back to the same thing, religion influences war.

You kind of touched on that yourself when you said the IRA used paisley to help recruit, that's down to religous hatred. paisley hates roman catholics and claims our pope is the anti-christ, i'm sure that would get more members for the IRA who in turn go out and kill.
Religion has caused war and influences war and is used as an excuse for war.
More have died in the name of god than any disaster or disease.

Also don't go assuming that i have not read about irish history and why the troubles began in northern ireland.The CATHOLICS in northern ireland were not being given their civil rights and started a movement which was cracked down on heavily by the northern government. Over 4000 catholic family's were driven from their homes during the riots of the battle of the bogside.PROTESTANTS caused the majority of the violence and catholics were slow to forget this. this event started off the troubles in northern ireland and the dormant IRA was put back into action.
that's a very short description. also i have a huge interest in the war of independence and civil war in ireland and have read many books and researched many events which occured,especially events in my area.My grandfather was in charge of a brigade in waterford and spent time in prison in waterford.He also done protection for Eamonn De Valera during a meeting in waterford. i have a huge interest in the troubles in ireland and have read about them.

CerebralCortex

Apparently when refernce is made of Nazi's in a thread the thread has died. I believe its a law or something I saw it on another thread recently.

deisedevil

Maybe it's because it's after five in the morning!

Flukey

All you said is true Deisedevil and proves that Religion is only used as an excuse and an influence. As you said the troubles were caused by problems in civil rights. They did not want to give one side of the community any power or ways of getting into power. The treaty created the split for our civil war and British allegiance, which happened to be predominantly among Protestants, caused much of the problems of the North. Religion is used an excuse, but that's it. It is a lot more to do with politics and power and influence.

Paisley's bigotry caused problems, more than any doctrinal views. It was the nationalists and republicans more than catholics that his views were actually aimed at, using religion as a cover and catholicism as a blanket way for referring to nationalists and republicans. A lot of his vitriol was aimed specifically at nationalists and the IRA and Sinn Féin too. There are protestant nationalists and catholic unionists too of course.

Whatever about Dublin Rule is Rome Rule being the case in the 1960s, it certainly isn't the case now. Paisley wants power and doesn't want it coming from Dublin. In fact in many ways Dublin rule would be far more beneficial to him and give him and unionism in general a lot more influence than the Westminster situation does. As it is Northern Ireland has 18 seats out of over 600, so just under 3% of a say. Under a united Ireland, they'd have a significantly larger say in their own affairs.

Of course behind the scenes the DUP have worked with catholics and republicans for years and more openly on the councils across the country. Paisley has many Catholic voters and he looks after his constituents, whatever their religion, very well. Much of his rhetoric and vitriol is more for his own community to see him as a leader and to be seen to be getting at the "enemy". As I said, if the IRA do stand down and peace is made he'll no longer have anything to shout about. Once the recent statement came out he immediately found other things to start screaming about, just to maintain his profile for his own people.

As to AIDS in Africa, well you can look at it in this way. Which is a better way of stopping the spread of Aids?

A) Use condoms.
Encourage people to abstain from sex or stick exclusively to one sexual partner.

The answer is clearly B. So the church encourages the better way and yet are criticised for doing so. Sure, people won't stick to B and that is the argument for encouraging the use of condoms, but still B is still the best way. There is no dispute about that. Encouraging A could lead to more sexual partners or at least people not changing the amount they do have and their approach to sex, and as we all know, condoms don't always work. People having widespread sex is what is causing the spread of AIDS. Condoms will do little to stop that. A different approach to sex is what is needed.

The best way to stop the spread of any sexually transmitted disease is either to not have sex or if they are to do so, to have it with only one person and for that person to be only having it with them. That is what the church teaches and whether we like or agree with it or not and whether or not people will do that, it is the best way to prevent the spread of AIDS, so it should be encouraged. So we have the strange situation where people who genuinely want to prevent the spread of AIDS, condemn a body for advocating the absolutely best way to do so.

Efforts should be made for people to use condoms but the far greater effort should be put into making people change their sexual habits and approach to sex. Use of condoms will reduce the spread of AIDS a bit. Abstaining or having only one sexual partner ever, realistic as that may be or not, would have an absolutely huge impact on it. So if we want to prevent the spread of AIDS that is what most effort should be put into encouraging. We may not like the fact, but maybe the church are actually right on this one.