Omaha hand, top full house

RoundTower

Fitz 50 game, loose, big stacks, blinds 1-1. Suppose you know nothing about Player A in this hand.

I call a pot raise to €7 on the button with 9964, one suit. 6 of us see the flop.

Flop is 972 no suits. 3 checks, player A bets €10, player B calls €10, and I raise to €80. The first 3 players fold, A calls and B calls.

Turn is a 7. A checks, B checks, and I bet €200. A raises all in for about €500 more. B folds. I have €315 behind, so it costs me €315 into a pot of €960.


What do you do here? What if you knew more about player A?

cardshark202

Judging by the betting patterns, I'd say he has 97 so its a definate call. It is possible he has quads but its unlikely. If he does, just shrug it off and reload. The nuthouse is too big a hand to fold in this spot, even in omaha, and especially on a loose table. I assume you called and judging by the fact you posted about it, the guy probably had quad 7s. Even if he did, it was the right call imo.

Hectorjelly

With those stacks there should be no getting away from the top full house. Quads is more likely flat call and raise the river.

If you knew player A and knew he was a very tight good player then you might consider folding - but you would have to be very sure.

Doc Farrell

Unfortunately he had a lower full house and hit quads on th river?

So long as he didn't have a single high pair like aces that hit a higher full house on the river?

oh the humanity!

expensive table by the way.

gl, d.

RoundTower

Doc Farrell wrote:

Unfortunately he had a lower full house and hit quads on th river?

So long as he didn't have a single high pair like aces that hit a higher full house on the river?

oh the humanity!

expensive table by the way.

gl, d.

This wasn't a thinly disguised bad beat post, it was a genuine strategy question. In fact the information I gave in the OP was deliberately incorrect: I had played with player A for some time, and he was a loose, inexperienced Omaha player who had conspicuously overplayed at least one hand before.

Against some players I would fold here. Checkraising the flop in this situation just suggests too much strength. I had to fold the top full house only once before, when I got raised on the river by a very tight and thinking player, and against the same player I think I would be folding here.

Oh, he had 78TJ and I won the hand.

Marq

This is the easiest call in the world. If you fold here you're just not cut out for omaha. If you're up against quads so be it, you pay the guy off, but I would never lay down an overfull in the situation you described.

DapperGent

RoundTower wrote:

Against some players I would fold here. Checkraising the flop in this situation just suggests too much strength. I had to fold the top full house only once before, when I got raised on the river by a very tight and thinking player, and against the same player I think I would be folding here.

A good tight player with 77 would have bet the pot (rather than €10) on the flop and either folded to or reraised your flop raise. I can't ever imagine folding there unless we each had about €1500 (or more!) behind.

Spiritus

RoundTower wrote:

What do you do here? What if you knew more about player A?

I would be too busy shovelling all of the chips in my immediate reach into the pot to be thinking about what he had.

Doc Farrell

So what are u telling me? he hit quads right? how did u lose? where am i ? where's the bad beat, i've been waiting for the wail! come on join me, 'oh the humanity!'

in other words, congrats! nice little earner.

DeVore

can I have my chips back so I can bet them again?

DeV.