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Testicle implants?

  • 17-08-2005 7:10pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3


    Due to a lack of hormones as a kid, neither of my testicles ever grew to what could be called a "normal" size.
    i've put up with it for the last 21 years, but I'm sick of it now so I talked to a urologist the other day to discuss it. Now, he told me that there are silicone implants available which can be put in quite easily and apparently do the job quite nicely.
    It's a half-hour operation, general anaesthetic and no overnight stay and a quick enough recovery. it's covered by my VHI plan, so there's not really any money worries.
    sounds peachy, right? the problem is that they can only do one (because there's no room in the scrotum), and then see if they can put in another one if theres enough room.

    so my question is, do you think it's better to have the appearance of one normal sized testicle than to have, for all intents and purposes, none?!

    Cheers!


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,665 ✭✭✭gary the great


    Personally i think i would go with one, and hope that maybe they can fit another one in. One is still better than none!

    Did you experience any other problems due to your lack of hormone, such as a very slow puberty. And if you did where you put on a course of hormones? Just intrested in this whole subject as their seems to be a lot of people with hormone problems these days?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭kittenkiller


    Either way it's not going to be classed as 'normal' looking, so i'd go with avoiding the unnecessary surgery.

    Anyway, surely having smaller beans makes the frank look all the bigger?
    Testes aren't the nicest of things to look at (in this girls opinion anyway), so don't worry bout it, you've probably got an advantage over other guys!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 gotaq?


    Did you experience any other problems due to your lack of hormone, such as a very slow puberty. And if you did where you put on a course of hormones?

    basically, my pituitary which sends the messages out to the various glands to produce the hormones isn't sending the messages out. So the hormones themselves have to be replaced.
    had a slow puberty and had to have the testicles artificially descended when I was 8 or so, there's no "dangling" to speak of.

    I'm really just want something to be there instead of nothing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭jcoote


    i don't think its worth it...are u sexually fertile because u may risk that if u get the op


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭kittenkiller


    Any chance of a prostethic stick on training teste?
    Just to try it out?
    You never know, you mightn't even feel comfortable with a new appendage.
    I know form the faces pulled by any guy who's accidentily sat on his, that they're not all good.
    Don't rush into anything (especially surgery).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭Anima


    I wouldn't worry about having it look like you've only one, you could always say you lost the other in some funny accident :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    I can't imagine such an accident being funny :eek:

    Interesting dilema anyway. Something I've never thought about (or known about)... I suppose if it will make you feel more comfortable then you should do it. With regards to being left only with only the one, hmm.. I don't know. Personal choice I guess. I don't think anybody else who gets that close will particularly care either way (none, one or two) - it may raise a question, but so what? You've still got the bit that counts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Never heard about this before, very interesting.

    Is there any danger in the surgery?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 Jekell


    If it is affecting you life, and you are feeling THAT uncomfortable about it, then go for it. Especially if it is covered by the VHI

    By the way, is this purely cosmetic operation? Is there a medical reason at all?
    Just wondering why breast implants aren't covered by VHI then. E.g. - a very underdeveloped girl whose small breasts are affecting her life the way your problem is....

    Anyway, weigh up the options - would ending up with only 1 testicle look better/worse if it came to that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Someone posted in After Hours about having testicular cancer, he discussed implants with his doctor, but discounted then due to the long term risk of infection.

    Remember these will have to be with you for a long time and may need replacement every few years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭rsynnott


    Gordon wrote:
    Is there any danger in the surgery?

    The last word in that question answers it.

    And is testicle size, of all things, really a big deal? "Oh, no, I'm afraid I can't sleep with you; my vernier calipers tells me that your testicles are 1cm smaller in diameter than the general popultation"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    I understand you point rsynoot, but you are possibly being unfair to the OP, some conditions do make people very self-conscious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 471 ✭✭Debracd


    Ok.. I'm a woman and obviously don't have testicles.. but.. I don't think they're the most attractive part of the male anatomy anyway! And on the up side if you testicles are very small.. the other organs in that area may in perspective.. seem larger!!! Iykwim :D:D I'd leave them be.. much harder to explain a scar and a hard lump down than a pituitary problem!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    rsynnott wrote:
    The last word in that question answers it.
    I just realised that after I posted. I suppose any surgery has dangers huh.

    What are the possible dangers involved in surgery (or percentage of a chance of a problem), and after surgery?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭JungleBunny


    I guess any surgery dangerous, but if it really gets you down that much, go through with it. If it is only purely because of esthetic reasons, dont do it. But if it upsets you that much, you have a deeper problem and maybe implants will change that for you.

    Women are not too taken by testicles anyway, so you have nothing to worry about. In fact, personally, I think the smaller they are, the better. :o
    Don't jeopardise your ability/fertility just for bigger testicles though.

    Hope you figure out what decision is right for you, and everything goes well.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    honestly
    if you are just getting this done because of aesthetics, I really don't see the point, after all, as long as your todger is working, isn't that the main thing!?
    I seriously doubt any woman on the planet would care whither your veg dangle or not


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 463 ✭✭JohnnyMobile


    I wouldnt feel right without my lads/nads dangling but if I never had a decent sized pair I suppose I would know any different.

    Do whatever you feel is right and balls to anyone that says any different


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭BeardyGit


    Hmmmm....

    I know the women here are trying to help but I don't think you folks can really understand what the OP is dealing with here. The points being made may appear to be valid but unless you've been in a position where you've lost a nut or haven't really had them to begin with then it's impossible to really put this in perspective....

    I had a sporting accident in my early twenties and ended up losing one of my marbles as a result of very serious rupturing....The other is *thankfully* still working fine. I guess you could say I should have been grateful that I got off so lightly and just been happy to get on with life, eh?

    I can certainly identify with the OP's desire to have what would at least appear to be a 'normal' physical configuration in the trousers department....Fortunately for me I've just gotten used to it and it really doesn't bother me that much anymore.

    If the OP just wants to obtain a more 'natural' look downstairs find out from the specialist what's involved in getting a reversal if you just can't deal with it after they're installed.....

    I guess that if the OP's concerned that the ladies will think there's something amiss if they grab a handful and find it's all meat and no veg he should realise that they *really* aren't too fond of that particular part of the anatomy in the first place. That won't of course help you explain the 'absence' of certain bulk but I'm afraid that's something you'd have to work out yourself....

    Gil


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭Santa Claus


    My brother lost one of his testes to testicular cancer and was offered an implant.
    In his case it was a relatively starighforward operation as the vas (tube that carries sperm from the testes) had been tied off on his left testicle, so there was no danger to his future sperm production.
    But if you have 2 testicles there and they are producing sperm then there's always the danger with any operation that adds something else in there could affect future fertility.

    He got it purely for the psychological benefit (similar to the way women who have had a masectomy would get a brest implant)

    Tough call, but I suppose whatever will help you feel less self concious !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭irlirishkev


    I had an undescended testicle when I was a kid, and had to get surgery to bring it down. While I'm glad I did it, I have to say the post-op pain was unlike anything I've ever experienced.. before or since, and I've had some fairly painful procedures in my 28 years..

    But like I say, despite the pain, I'm glad I got it done. It does feel strange to not feel 'normal' down there, and even though all the girls clearly mean well in their posts, it's something that's pretty important to a guy I think..

    K.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    my brother had an undecended testicle when he wa s alad, and had to have it moved surgically, and stitched to is scrotum to keep it in place.

    he emigrated to australia, and they made him have it removed and replaced with a silicone nut before they'd give him citizenship.

    it was only a small operation, they maintained it was safer than having the existing testicle in there.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    To the OP:

    Surgery to implant artificial testicles hangs imho on one important question. And you don't have to answer this on this thread.

    Are you fertile?

    If you are, then I'd seriously advise you to reconsider. Any operation in that area can lead to decreased fertility. You need to balance this out for yourself. Is aesthetics more important than the potential ability to have children?


    If you're not fertile, then I don't see the problem tbh. It's no worse than any other cosmetic surgery, and if your VHI covers it and you really want it then go ahead. Just be aware that any operation on the scrotum is a very painful affair afterwards. And the possibility of infection in the wound (unlikely but possible) makes it even more potentially painful.

    I hope that helps. :)

    I had an undescended testicle when I was a kid, and had to get surgery to bring it down. While I'm glad I did it, I have to say the post-op pain was unlike anything I've ever experienced.. before or since, and I've had some fairly painful procedures in my 28 years..

    I had to have both done. Not a nice experience. My main issue is that it's something I find very difficult to find information on. All the articles on Cryptochidism refer to infants. I was 11 when I had to have the operations.

    There was mention of reduced fertility back then and an increased chance of cancer, but obviously not to me. Tbh I'd appreciate any info people have on this. It's one of those things that's been stuck in the back of my head for years that I've just kept putting off knowing about, if you know what I mean. Silly of me, but it's one of those things that are easy to push to the back of the mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭irlirishkev


    nesf wrote:
    I had to have both done. Not a nice experience. My main issue is that it's something I find very difficult to find information on. All the articles on Cryptochidism refer to infants. I was 11 when I had to have the operations.

    There was mention of reduced fertility back then and an increased chance of cancer, but obviously not to me. Tbh I'd appreciate any info people have on this. It's one of those things that's been stuck in the back of my head for years that I've just kept putting off knowing about, if you know what I mean. Silly of me, but it's one of those things that are easy to push to the back of the mind.

    I would have been about the same age actually.. Maybe a little bit older. In fact now that I think about it, I was about 13. And like you, the risks were mentioned but not in great detail to me. I have my nuts checked my doc every now and then just in case. Like you, it's always in the back of my mind..

    K.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Michael Collins


    rsynnott wrote:
    ..."Oh, no, I'm afraid I can't sleep with you; my vernier calipers tells me that your testicles are 1cm smaller in diameter than the general popultation"?...

    Ah dammit if I had a euro for everytime...

    My own fault for leaving the vernier calipers just lying around I guess


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Unhelpful post will result in being banned from this forum.
    Please read the charter.
    Have a nice day.
    Thaed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 gotaq?


    thanks for all the advice lads, lots to think about there.

    as for the fertility question the answer is that I'm not sure. My specialist says he doesn't know either. so i suppose the best course of action is to first remove the element of doubt and find out if i actually am producing sperm, though the doctor says that it's very unlikely that i am. i was told that when it does come time when i want to try for a baby, that i'll be put on a course of treatment that should have me producing sperm. but even then, nothing's guaranteed. also, there's the offchance that my testicles might actually start growing.
    but the urologist said there should be no problems with any of this and they can be removed just as easily as they're put in

    as was pointed out earlier, this would be purely for aesthetic purposes. no medical advantages at all! i would like to think that it's been having an adverse effect on my life. i can't use the communal showers in the gym, hate using urinals and have shied away from relationships because of it.
    i know well enough that it's not the right thing to do, but it's a case of me lookin round and seeing everyone with what they should have and i can't help but feel self concious!

    the specialist has recommended me go a counsellor bout all this, so i think i'll give that a lash before jumping into anything!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭jcoote


    get your head sorted first man before putting any scars on your body...any flaw about yourself can be ironed out in your mind...think of the many eople with really huge testes who think nothing of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'm in the same boat myself. I had undescended testicles which weren't caught when I was a baby. I only got the both of them moved down when I was 18. I'm 21 now. Of course it totally ****ed up my puberty. I'm on regular hormones so that I have normal hormone levels. Like you my balls are quite small. The sac feels pretty empty. I haven't thought seriously about testicle implants. I think my penis is too small, but my urologist (who I have to see every few months) says it's a normal size, i.e. any surgery I've considered as been about my shlong, not my grapes.

    Many of the women who have replied seem to think that all men just want a bigger penis/balls for the sole purpose of pleasing a woman. Self image is important. I've never had sex and am not good when it comes to relationships, so I don't know what I would do if a girl wanted to have sex with me. It's entirly possible that I would be too embarressed.

    I have not had my fertility tested, but my doctor says I probably am infertile.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    gotaq? wrote:
    as for the fertility question the answer is that I'm not sure. My specialist says he doesn't know either.
    Find a new specialist. Seriously, if he can't answer such a basic question about the impacts of the procedure, don't let him come within a 40-foot bargepole of your scrotum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    RainyDay wrote:
    Find a new specialist. Seriously, if he can't answer such a basic question about the impacts of the procedure, don't let him come within a 40-foot bargepole of your scrotum.

    I'd agree. Your fertility is not something that he should gloss over or treat lightly imho.


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