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What happened nintendo
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17-08-2005 2:16pm#1
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djmarkus wrote:i agree i play a megadrive emulator with roms(that i legally own). what are sega at now adays then?
Sega are a now a multiformat publisher. They still make arcade games, in fact their new arcade harware was unveiled a while ago.
As for what happened to Nintendo? Well not much really. The Gamecube is by far my favourite machine of the current generation. Sure I play my PS2 more but the Gamecube has far more classic titles.It may look like they have lost the console race but not in Nintendos eyes. They had the only console that was making a profit until recently when the PS2 started turning in a profit. MS still lose money hand over foot.
As for the stupid baby games well only a stupid baby would make those comments. So what if the games have a cartoony look to them. I'd rather play Mario Sunshine, Zelda: Wind Waker and Pikmin than so called adult games like GTa or Max Payne. In case you didn't notice the N64 is also full of games with a cute graphics style.
I definitely think the GC is as good a console as the rest if not better. It should definitely the first choice for a second console. No gamer should go on in life without playing Metroid Prime and Resi 4.
Now for my views on the eternal debate Megadrive vs. Snes. Thought the Snes was better but the megadrive was definitely great machine. Had a megadrive myself but not a snes
The answer is in the games. In terms of RPGs the megadrive had a few classics but the Snes definitely had more and better RPGs. Shmups the megadrive had much more but very few were stand outs. The Snes had Axelay. And it that wasn't enough the rest of it's shoot'em ups were fantastic. Platform games well the Mario games were always better than the sonic games. Actiuon games the megadrive wins since Treasure made some great games for the megadrive including the stunning Gunstar Heroes (sequel coming to GBA, hurrah!). The Snes had some good game sin this category like Contra 3 and Cybernator. Beat'em ups, the SNES had a slighty better versions of SF2 (but no Super SF2) and a far superior version of MK2. Sports games were about equal. The MD had some great early MD sports games but the SNES had ISS which did eventually find it's way to the MD. 
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MB44 wrote:well i just feel that there not making enough games to appeal to the older market. they lost thq and rareware which in my opinion finished them off. Dont get angry its only a topic.
They may have but THQ haven't made that many great games lately and it isn't a big loss losing the wrestling games. Rare haven't made a decent game since they left for Microsoft and the best of their staff went to Retro Studies and Free Radical.
They may not have any games that have a grown up theme but it really shouldn't put anybody off playing any of nintendos more 'colourful' games. Just because it doesn't have a 50 cent soundtrack and a burly male lead character beating down some ho's that it isn't good.
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Hell , the camp characters can even add a new level to the gameplay. I have always hated every attempt at a tennis game ever. That was until I played a 7 hour marathon of Super monkey ball 2 tennis at my friends house. And that was without being high or nder the influence of alcohol.
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Infini wrote:From what I know Nintendo were at their strongest when the SNES was out but when they rejected advice from sony (who as far as I know was a hardware supply partner with nintendo at the time) to switch over to CD rather than stick with cartridge that was when they began their long decline. Their faliure to change was what caused sony to walk out on them and develop the playstation, imagine if they had accepted their advice nintendo would still be no1 and playstation would never have existed! :eek:
Totally wrong. Sony did provide the sound chips for the SNES. They also were developing a CD add-on for the SNES. However at a trade show. Nintendo snubbed Sony by announcing that they will be making a CD add-on with partner Philips who would do it cheaper. This lead to the fall out between Sony and Nintendo since this was the first Sony had heard of this news. Sony went on to develope the SNES CD add-on into the Playstation.
The reasons that the PS did better than the N64 are:
1. Over two years headstart on Nintendo during which Sony destroyed their only rival Sega and were the only next gen machine worth considering. Continuing delays for Nintendo didn't help
2. The PS had fantastic marketing that was backed up by some great games, excellent Namco arcade conversions and games that tapped into the older age groups such as Wipeout.
3. Nintendo lost the biggest game of the time ever because the cartridge system was too restrictive for it. That game was Final Fantasy VII which had the japanese queuing at the Sony centres for a copy on release. They lost a few RPG developers and other 3rd parties due to the cartridge format.
These are just the main ones.
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