online poker ettiquete question

Washout

hiyes

Got a quick question thats been bugging me

I was playing online in a cash game yesterday where the blinds were .50/1

I was BB and this guy had just entered the room that very game and he was first to speak.

he comes in with a bankroll of 5 dollars...thats it. His first move is to go all in.

everyone folds and its my turn.
I start to think that if this was tournement play then I would probably call cause usually an all in with such a short stack is often a sign of desperation.

So i decide to call as its only 4 dollars. So its Showdown!

He turns over a Q J off suit. and the flop throws up a ten, the turn and river are no help to him.

Next thing i know it he starts abusing me like i just stole his money.

Question I have is did i break some unwritten rule of poker. where its bad form to call with the hand i had? similar to that unwritten rule of soccer where should some1 get injured and the opposition kick the ball out then the other team will give them back the ball once the injury is sorted?

It kind of bugged me all yesterday evening...as ive never had any abuse in any rooms before. but then again this was the first time that i have just taken a gamble like that with the hand i had ever in a cash game

Rodge

What did you call with? Not that it really makes any difference, he was just an idiot.

I saw one the other night where a guy sat down with 5.70 and said I just need to take the blinds so I will have 6 for an STT. He went all in UTG and was called by 23o. 23o won and the guy stayed at our table for twenty minutes abusing the guy who called him. Classic.

bmc

No rule...

You put your money in...

He wouldn't have been firing abuse had his JQ stood up.

Einstein

yeah he's just a muppet, stick him on your buddy list and floow him around the tables taking more of his money.
You can call with whatever you like. I would be interested in what you had by the way

Washout

Rodge wrote:

What did you call with?

10 9 off suit is what i called with.

DubTony

I've only been playing Poker for a few weeks, and have been amazed at the level of abuse thrown out online. Seems some guys feel real safe with a computer and cables between them and their "victim". Wouldn't worry about it. Anyway - All-In with QJ? Serves the f**ker right. BTW, what did you call him with?

edit. Just saw your reply. Great satisfaction in taking a mouthpiece down with a dud hand. Gutsy call.... or should that be stupid? Just kidding

Einstein

DubTony wrote:

I've only been playing Poker for a few weeks, and have been amazed at the level of abuse thrown out online. Seems some guys feel real safe with a computer and cables between them and their "victim". Wouldn't worry about it. Anyway - All-In with QJ? Serves the f**ker right. BTW, what did you call him with?

Ahem

Washout wrote:

10 9 off suit is what i called with.

DubTony

Divers wrote:

Ahem

Dont you hate when you cross posts?

ionapaul

99% of the abuse handed out online would *never* be given in real life - the more agressive the abuser, the more likely they are a socially awkward loser with a large chip on their shoulder as a result. Online chat is the one avenue they have to make threats / boasts and get away with it without receiving a broken nose. It is pretty deplorable, the lack of manners some people show, and I hate having to turn off my chat just because a few morons decide to be offensive or goad others into joining in.

smurph

DubTony wrote:

I've only been playing Poker for a few weeks, and have been amazed at the level of abuse thrown out online. Seems some guys feel real safe with a computer and cables between them and their "victim". Wouldn't worry about it. Anyway - All-In with QJ? Serves the f**ker right. BTW, what did you call him with?

edit. Just saw your reply. Great satisfaction in taking a mouthpiece down with a dud hand. Gutsy call.... or should that be stupid? Just kidding

Thats why I think sometimes if a new player is only used to playing online and then comes to say a casino or card club to play live game, gets called with a bit of a dodgy hand and looses, they can be very rude and nasty and don't take the loss well. Ive decided to ignore any abusive backchat online. Actually what is quite funny is everyone starts typing nasty things back to them.

Samba

This type of player is generally the one who will set himself on tilt with his own anger, all it takes is one button, try pressing it next time

Einstein

i've only recently set up my online account to start a little playing online...
Agree with Samba's comment in that they will definitly set themselves on tilt...
I think I'd find it quite amuzing initially, but ignore them from then on...

jtsuited

it still amazes me how people give abuse in poker. if someone makes a really bad call and then sucks out on me, i get really annoyed. And i might say it to them that it was a questionable call. But if i start giving abuse, i just look like an idiot. For a game that puts such huge emphasis on emotional and temperamental control, you see so many whinging losers in poker.
As soon as you give abuse, you're saying to everyone 'i can't control my temper, please take my money!'
The challenge of poker is to be able to take the bad beats, the bad calls and the general ups and catastrophic downs. A person who is liable to give abuse to other players is, in my opinion, inherently lacking in these abilities

K!LL!@N

I played at a table one night and there were 3 of us that had been there for a while.
Having a bit of banter while we played.

Someone joined with a few $, first hand they went all in.
One of the guys called and won.
All in guy left.

A second person arrived and went all in on first hand.
The other guy at the table called and won.
The guy that lost promptly left.

At this stage myself and the other two guys were laughing at what had happened.
Jokingly i claimed the next arrival at the table as mine.

Two guys joined with $2 each, both went all in.
I made a comment about it being my turn and called them.
When i won i was in stitches as were the other two guys.

So i think it's the height of good manners to call these fools.

Killian

PPP-Pit Boss

There is no question of etiquette with your call. Your opponant sat down with the incorrect bankroll and proceeded to go allin on a marginal hand. He needs to lower his expectations, learn a little about poker and behave himself at the table. On PPP abusive players get the ability to abuse others removed untill such a time as they display a modicum of respect :0) next time hit that manager button because it can be quite disconcerting.

Blitzkrieger

I encounter abuse quite a bit - just turn off the chat window and let them say what they like. It doesn't bother me what some twit thinks of me.

Rodge wrote:

I saw one the other night where a guy sat down with 5.70 and said I just need to take the blinds so I will have 6 for an STT.

What's the difference between that and begging? What a ****ty thing to do. Barge into the middle of a poker game and demand money for nothing. I'd have called if I had anything better than 23o

xx eddie

I was playing on pokeroom one night and after some punter made a bad call and won the two guys got into a slagging match. Much to my amusement they started calling each other "c*nthairs" and the rest. Went on for quite a while until one of them fancied his chances of beating the other guy up and suggested they meet up for a fight. The usual macho stuff of "you wouldn't say that to my face, lets meet up" and the likes. The other replied......

" we are on the internet you c*nthair.................................and I live in Paris...............................and I'm only 16."

Hughesy

Have played home games now for a while, played online a few times and never experienced any grief. Havn't really played any poker tourneys (just the odd one in a pub).

Just wondered has anyone seen much hassle in live tourneys??

ionapaul

No, because the people most likely to say these things online are also the most likely to walk around with their head down and stay indoors most of the time! Abusing people online is the only outlet for their aggression. Generalising I know, but I'm fairly sure of this. I've only can remember people being out of line twice in off line games, out of many dozens of tournies and the likes. Once because of drink and the other time because he was born and will die a complete tosser and can't be helped in that regard! I'm sure the dealers here have witnessed a good few occassions when people were out of line, but the probability of getting a smack will get even the most moronic of people to hold their tongue.

Lafortezza

If a player abuses you online you just need to type: WHO HAS THE CHIPS????
Ctrl-C it when you first type it so that you can Ctrl-V it repeatedly in the chat box.
As long as he keeps dishing out the abuse, you keep hitting ctrl-V.
Endless muppet baiting courtesy of an old blog of HJ's.

Ste05

jtsuited wrote:

it still amazes me how people give abuse in poker. if someone makes a really bad call and then sucks out on me, i get really annoyed. And i might say it to them that it was a questionable call. But if i start giving abuse, i just look like an idiot.

I think this is exactly the point of these calls and the problem with abusing these players.

We only hear about or get annoyed about the times when they do actually suck out. But we never hear about the times (or give them the opportunity to do it again) when they make the same stupid calls and miss. So if they were allowed to make the same call 5 times (by just saying "great call" instead of abusing them) they will miss 4 times, and win once. and therefore the profits would be huge assuming they aren't taught to play better by abusing them in this fashion, that what really gets on my wick on this subject!! Tell them they're great and encourage them to make these same bad calls over and over again. Not teach them to fold long shots.

okidoki987

Was playing Pokerstars one night and this guy started giving one bloke loads of abuse, all because his A's fell to a straight on the river. He just kept going on and on until I felt sorry for the abused and typed in the chat line
"How's your wife and MY kids?"
A load of "lol's" from the rest of the table and 5 minutes later the abuser says "good comeback" and left the table! Never heard another word from him again. All these guys (assuming no females are this abusive ? ) need is a good comeback line and that either shuts them up for good or makes them go totally bananas and then they usually leg it soon after that.
Others one I use are
(A) "How's your missus these days?"
I'm not married
"Okay sorry, must be your mother I'm thinking of then?"
(B) "Did you ever get the results from the clinic?"
(C) "Have you finished your homework yet?" That one really ****es them off.
(D) Are you still using your dad's credit card
(E) Come back when you've taken you pills

roryc

best I ever got was quite confusing. I got lucky on the river after I was all in (short stacked) with A 5. I rivered an ace to beat his kings and he proceded to abuse me, the usual....

I ignored this until he resorted to saying, 'why are you so fat?' To which I replied, 'because everytime I sleep with your wife she gives me a cookie..'

Nuff said

Ste05

that's a classic one Rory - if only he came back with the "I'm not married, you xxxx!!!" then you could use OkiDoki's oh well it must have been your mother I was thinking about. Class

Rodge

okidoki987 wrote:

(A) "How's your missus these days?"
I'm not married
"Okay sorry, must be your mother I'm thinking of then?"
(B) "Did you ever get the results from the clinic?"
(C) "Have you finished your homework yet?" That one really ****es them off.
(D) Are you still using your dad's credit card
(E) Come back when you've taken you pills

what I'd say back to you if we ever meet online
(A) She's still dead you ignorant ****
(B) Yeah, it turns out he is my son and not yours
(C) I'm stuck on the proof of Einsteins Theory of Relativity. Can you help me?
(D) Yeah, I'm only 12 and I can still beat you
(E) The ones I stole off your ma?

smurph

Rodge wrote:

what I'd say back to you if we ever meet online
(A) She's still dead you ignorant ****
(B) Yeah, it turns out he is my son and not yours
(C) I'm stuck on the proof of Einsteins Theory of Relativity. Can you help me?
(D) Yeah, I'm only 12 and I can still beat you
(E) The ones I stole off your ma?

I really think that you should get out into the real world just a bit more (mind you I thought they were brillant)

okidoki987

MY replies would be........

(A) She's still dead you ignorant ****

Nope, a **** is useful

(B) Yeah, it turns out he is my son and not yours

You had sex once? Does this mean we can't call you **nker any more, pity it's being going a long time?

(C) I'm stuck on the proof of Einsteins Theory of Relativity. Can you help me?

What, no Beano again, you'll have to change your magazine shop?

(D) Yeah, I'm only 12 and I can still beat you

I know someone who'd pay good money.....

(E) The ones I stole off your ma?

That'll be funny seeing as they were for period pain!

Ste05

Kind of lost your way a bit there Oki, although not bad,

(B) above - a great comeback to Rodge's could have been -
"thought so, I always wear a rubber with your missus, how is she set for next Friday!!"