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how can i install new os
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15-08-2005 11:46pm#1
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Yes, if you dont have a licence for the machine it is an infringment of Microsoft's copyright to download XP. They can get a warrant to search your house and take you to court, but the chances of that happening are nil if you aren't a business. However for your own sake I would suggest you steer clear of any downloaded version of XP because.
1) You dont know what sort of trojans etc might be on it.
2) You may well have difficulty installing services packs in the future as some did with SP2.
3) Its hassle to get cracks and all that working.
Buying an OEM one seems like a sensible suggestion. You might also be able to get one if you are a student, that used to be the case, but I don't know what the situation is now.
Micromail suggest the full copy of XP Pro is €430???? Dont pay that much!
Linux is an alternative, but factor in the cost of an external modem if you are on dial-up and if you have an ATI card then consider buying an nVidia, and if you have any exotic hardware then forget about them! You will also probably tear all your hair out trying to get everything working the first time around.
Its an alternative, but not as straightforward a one as suggested by some. 0 -
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Just build the new comp - install your current master HD from your old one and XP will configure itself to the new hardware. Sometimes it may reboot but most times it just re-configures and boots up.
You can put a drive with xp os running on it into any machine/hardware over the last 5-6 years and 9 times out of ten it will re-configure for the new hardware.
OEM or otherwise. Updating via microsoft is not a problem as you have not done anything illegal. All you have done is 'Upgrade' your hardware which is allowed.
Job done - The simple way!
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Webmonkey wrote:Yes Linux is only for people who know what they are doing.
Or know nothing about xp....
Just pop your drive with the xp os into the new comp and the drive/os will re-configure to the new hardware. Sound/vid cards will in some cases need to be re-installed/installed.
Linux can't do that (and probably never will be able to). There is no need to re-install your os or paying for a new os or any of that mucking about, simply plug the drive into the new config and leave it do what it needs to re-configure.
I'm getting increasingly annoyed at idiots who keep harping on about flipping Linux. It's a royal pain in the ass and is definately not as secure as they like to claim. Especially since there main encryption key was broken earlier this year. It recent tests a windows based server solution was found to be more secure than a Linux based solution (src: /.) .
XP will walk all over Linux IMO in more ways than I care to mention. microsoft maybe over dominant in the market but untill an alternative comes along that can equal xp and what xp can actually do when utilised correctly and in terms of a standard user being able to use the system in the first place then it is going to remain the most used system.
It does what it was intended to do, be easy to use without needing to learn the in's and out's of how an os works. most major sound/vid cards are supported. most modems can be installed direct from inbuilt driver packages.
If you really want to be clever - network your new comp to your old one and have xp do a network install to the new comp. This is supposed to be done from a fresh install but can be done either way. New comp will then have a copy of xp on it and can be used as an individual machine or part of the network from there.
Linux can't do that either
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Network install? Um, yes it does.
Most distro's will also come with a net-install option, which will scan your hardware and download the necessary drivers and files 'on the fly' from the online archive.
I'm getting increasingly annoyed at idiots who keep harping on about fliping Windows. It's ONE option, not the only option. The OP has said that he's building the machine, which in itself is an undertaking but should insure that whatever hardware he gets will be compatable with the OS he chooses to use.
Personally I'm no computer pro, advanced-user maybe, but no pro. Linux may have a slight learning curve but with the wealth of resources and comunities out there it's really not that steep. I've also got some less-than-tech-savy flatmates that I've been forcing linux upon recently. It took them about a week to admit that it is in fact much, much nicer.
Get a live CD or something if you're unsure. There's absolutly no harm in trying.
Why do these bloody things always turn into flame wars? Can't we all just admit that Linux is too cool for school! 0 -
Goodshape wrote:Network install? Um, yes it does.
Most distro's will also come with a net-install option, which will scan your hardware and download the necessary drivers and files 'on the fly' from the online archive.
I'm getting increasingly annoyed at idiots who keep harping on about fliping Windows. It's ONE option, not the only option. The OP has said that he's building the machine, which in itself is an undertaking but should insure that whatever hardware he gets will be compatable with the OS he chooses to use.
Personally I'm no computer pro, advanced-user maybe, but no pro. Linux may have a slight learning curve but with the wealth of resources and comunities out there it's really not that steep. I've also got some less-than-tech-savy flatmates that I've been forcing linux upon recently. It took them about a week to admit that it is in fact much, much nicer.
Get a live CD or something if you're unsure. There's absolutly no harm in trying.
Why do these bloody things always turn into flame wars? Can't we all just admit that Linux is too cool for school!
Not flamewaring but no way can the 'ordinary' user just pop in a cd and hey presto 30mins later have there computer up and running with Linux. I can use it yes, I'm an advanced user but 80% of people cannot and probably would be unable or want to goto all the hassle that comes with Linux.
I can use Linux as I say but don't because it's a pain in the neck and a lot more work especially for the ordinary user.
Linux will eventually overcome the 'end user' problems that it has where it can be utilised as an of the shelf pre-installed system on computers. Untill it can do what Apple or microsoft can do, then it is not an option for an ordinary user.
That is the fact that Linux guru's need to learn, not which is the better system. Linux was untill earlier this year the more secure until the sha encryption key was cracked. Now it's in the same ball park as microsoft security wise. Apple only just fairs a little better in this area.
Point being is that last comment has probably lost any ordinary user as to what I'm on about. This is what Linux users forget everytime and therefore think 'We gota defend Linux - Theres another windows user having a go'.
Simply put I'm not and you certainly cannot just pull the drive on that chaps old comp and plug it into his/her new configuration with Linux. With xp you can. You can't do it with Apple either so I suppose I'm having a go at them now?
Again I'm not having a go and I'm not flaming Linux. Linux is a good os but you have to know what your doing to be able to use it competantly and securely.
For the ordinary end user though it is not an option unless they are prepared to study how a kernel is built and operates and how to patch drivers so as to operate on that kernal. Thats why I get annoyed with Linux guru's - yes it's a good os, by all means suggest it as an option but also try to help the guy solve his problem as easily as possible. Simply popping his drive into the new configuration will do that and no need to buy a new os or install a completely alien operating system that they don't have the first clue about.
The person can then look at Linux as an option and at there liesure on there old machine and I would offer that as advice than get into an argument about which system is better. 0 -
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