Martial Artists` Diet

Naos

Looking to start a good diet, lose a few pounds of fat and build up my speed and muscle.

Any of you guys have a diet you stick to? Anyone know any professional fighters diets?

columok

I dunno about martial artists.... but combat athletes?

Go Paleo (www.thepaleodiet.com)

The basics are....

Eat lots of:
Lean meat
Vegetables except potato, turnip, parsnip, swede
Fruits but watch the bananas
nuts (but no peanuts, cashew nuts)
water

Cut out:
Grain
The above vegetables
Sugar- sweets, coke etc.
Dairy


Works wonders. Good for you. Its low in fat so its not crap for your heart. Check the FAQs at the above link. It makes intuitive sense.

padraic mchale

Try to stick to 5 or 6 smaller meals a day every 3 hours or so apart. Foods are more easily digested this way. Also the body will burn more calories trying to digest the food.

I would consider an apple and a yogurt as 1 meal, a bowl of cereal as another etc..

In general try and split each meal into 60% carbs, 30% protein, 10% fats if at all possible.

Carbs being pasta, bread, cereals, potatos, vegetables, fruit
Protein being lean meats like chicken, turkey and tuna. Nuts, beans and milk are other sources of protein.

Also try flax oil seeds for the Omega 3 fats which are excellent for flexibility

vasch_ro

try Dr Michael Colgans Book

http://www.colganinstitute.com/store/

the top one which I think is an update of this which I own and its excellent

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0962484059/002-0364315-5097665?v=glance

Cabelo

I'm starting into a fruit heavy diet this week.

I'm currently enjoying my last crisp sandwich... it's a shame I have to leave the little guys behind.

My resolutiuon is to eat only sweets that my girlfriend gives me... she gives me sweets often but not too often.

I'm already starting heavily into apples and I do the small meals thing more often than not as is. The big one for me will be ditching sweets. I'm keeping my soft drinks, because I know otherwise I'd never stick to the fruits... no chance.

Wish me luck kids, I'll start a "Things Cabelo has eaten today" thread on Wednesday or Thursday. I have a party to attend, so I may not start until after that.

Naos

Aye, Im the same, sweets are a killer.
However I am going to cut them out, have done it for 40days, so shouldnt be a problem, Its just breaking a habit, 6 weeks your sorted.

The paleo diet looks great, thanks Colom. Use it yourself?

columok

The paleo diet looks great, thanks Colom. Use it yourself?

I use the principles and any time I up the paleo ante i find myself dropping weight and having more energy.

It makes sense to me and has changed the way I view bread, potatoes etc. I eat them now as a treat rather than as a staple. Now I see meat (lean meat) as fundamental and less replaceable than I formerly would have considered it.

loz

columok wrote:

Go Paleo (www.thepaleodiet.com)

The basics are....

Eat lots of:
Lean meat
Vegetables except potato, turnip, parsnip, swede
Fruits but watch the bananas
nuts (but no peanuts, cashew nuts)
water

Cut out:
Grain
The above vegetables
Sugar- sweets, coke etc.
Dairy

Did anyone read the linked pdf on cereal grains ? - very scary - and i know people who basically live on cereals due to the great "whole grains for your heart" advertising !

http://www.thepaleodiet.com/articles/Cereal%20article.pdf

I always assumed the list of vitamins\minerals on the side of any cereal packets were natural - - the document appears to suggest absolutly no nutritional value in most grains - guess all thoses vitamins must be added later ( if they even are ! )

Colm_OReilly

I also recommend Paleo. It's tricky to stick to because it's the antithesis of society. Everywhere you go breads, pastas, chips, bagels and soft drinks are screaming at you to be eaten.

Out next month is The Paleo Diet for Athletes which I've pre ordered. Don't buy Neanderthin, its essentially The Sun to the Independent when compared to The Paleo Diet.

Colm

Naos

Excellent feedback as always lads.
Thanks a lot, am going to look into this Paleo diet later on, try grab a book from the library, or buy that book colm just posted.

memphis

I went a diet before my fight in the EU championship in Holland lasy November and dropped roughly 10 kg. It was hard to do but certainly wasn't abore to do. I can honestly say that I was never hungry on this particular diet.

My daily intake (generally) consisted of the following:-

Breakfast
Small bowl of cereal (ideally Muselli or Corn Flakes... no sugar)

Lunch
Cold Meat salad with water
Fruit

Dinner
One main course daily with water and loads of veg.
No chips or greasy foods

In Addition to this I ate lots of fruit, and veg along with buckets and buckets of water. And trainied regularly. I cut out alcohol, sweets, all fatty and greasy foods.

It works, and you'll feel great after it. I'm asthamtic and I even found I wasn't as chesty after loosing the few kg.

Clive

Whiskey, pizza and loose women.

Diet of champions.

paddyc

fuc**n right clive, you forgot the smokes


loose weight the sensible way..... by not eating and long runs

Cabelo

Clive wrote:

Whiskey, pizza and loose women.

Diet of champions.

**** 'em and then eat 'em, right Clive?

My wonder diet of foodz started today. I no longer buy any junk food, though I will eat junk food bought for me by my girlfriend (which happens every few days).

So, here begins my diary of dietary infractions.

At some stage tonight I will eat crisps; they're left over from yesterday's party (at which I only ate some chocolate and drank some cola).

I've already eaten one yoghurt and had one orange. I've had fruit juice and may eat some white meat later. More when I mess up!

dudara

memphis wrote:

I'm asthamtic and I even found I wasn't as chesty after loosing the few kg.

That might seriously be due to cutting out the refined cereals. While a lot of people aren't officially allergic to gluten, removing it from their diets often causes them to feel better.

Nearly two years ago, I started the Atkins Diet, and lost 13 kg, and felt far healthier as a result. These days I eat cereals very sparingly, but have lots of lean meat, fish and berry-type fruits and veg. There's a lot of sense to this way of eating, as there's very little processed food in it.

I got very wary of bread when I was 10 and I learned that flour is bleached to whiten it. The problem is that the bleaching process destroys the vitamins so these are added retroactively. Learning that made me question the value of bread and other flour-based products.

Clive

Cabelo wrote:

**** 'em and then eat 'em, right Clive?

More usually the other way around...

memphis

I think you misunderstood me. I normally wouldn't eat cereal, in fact I hate eating a breakfast of any discrisption on a general basis, but while I was trying to loose weight I was eating a well balanced diet like I've outlined above.

I lost over 10kg, and felt good after doing so, I didn't feel as chesty and that after I had lost the weight... I don't think the cereal is a factor in that, its the weight lose that was the reason behind that!!!

Cabelo

Well kids, day one was easy... day two was an absolute kick in the balls. I found 20 euro today and just didn't know what to spend it on. I also nearly caved and bought a MASSIVE amount of cookies tonight but someone else took the bullet and I ate a chicken sandwhich (which I deemed better than smarties cookies).

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Smee is murdering self on soft drinks... needs work.

Strawberries + Apples = COMBO!

EPO_MAN

I tried the Abs Diet by David Zinczenko he is an editor of mens health magazine.
Basically 12 foods groups eat 6-7 times a day. every 3 hours.

Weight the same as before (maybe lost 2-3 lbs) but body looks great and full of energy. fitness has improve too.

I don't follow it regiliously s but have stolen the ideas from it such as teh 12 food groups and 6-7 meals a day.

Was tempted by Spartan health but I found the guy a bit pushy with his constant stream of emails. Anybody buy the psartan helath books?

venice_irk

well see as we're talking about girl diet stuff.

i'd been walking 4km daily in july. and did a good few training sessions this month and i'd thought i'd be at least be able to keep my weight steady, maybe drop .5kg of the 5 i think i'm over. but i just checked yesterday and i'm 5kg up!

going to take my work underground, old school, i'm only eating meat and drinking water and running 10 km a day for the next few weeks.

Musashi

well see as we're talking about girl diet stuff.

Who said diet is the domain of girls?? We are talking about a diet suited to the male animal who trains in MA,probably with weights or body weight,does cardio to a significant degree and denies themselves the luxuries others take for granted.What in hell is "girly" about that?
Diet does not equal teen chick upchucking her McDonalds to fit a size too small pair of jeans.It's a way of life for some people who want to attain or maintain peak health and fitness.We all know some foods are basically poison,only a very few take a stand and refuse to eat ****e any more.For health and well being at least,the general population could take a hint from the Martial Artists and Body Builders on Boards and think about what they put in their mouths! Not saying we are perfect,but a lot better than the average western diet.

i'm only eating meat and drinking water and running 10 km a day for the next few weeks.

Why not use modern science and eat and train with more focus on results gained from Olympic level training programs? I've just ordered the Paleo books and Tom Kurz stretching books,why kill myself when I can target my training to the results I want to achieve? Train smarter,not harder.
May you achieve!

venice_irk

i'll stick with my way pal.

Naos

Right.. Im going to start this tomorrow properly..
I was doing bits of it over the week, I know bits dont work.
But I find that without potatoes, I have trouble with dinner.. pasta/rice can hardly be a substitute!
Also breakfast will have to consist of fruit only, due to fact I cant have cereal or bread. Although I may eat tuna.. hmm.

columok

But I find that without potatoes, I have trouble with dinner.. pasta/rice can hardly be a substitute!

Eat more lean meat and more vegetables and make sure you're full. Example... Make a bolognese sauce with loadsa meat and loadsa veg. Eat a big bowl of it with no pasta. Eat some fruit. That'll fill you for ages.

Also breakfast will have to consist of fruit only, due to fact I cant have cereal or bread. Although I may eat tuna.. hmm.

Thats a sure way of failing. Try eating a slice or two of turkey aswell. Or an egg. Protein fills tummies.

loz

venice_irk wrote:

i'd been walking 4km daily in july.

Try running - rather than the girly walking stuff

venice_irk

Try running - rather than the girly walking stuff

ZING.

i should have mentioned the walking was more like a stroll than anything else. can't really run to work in fairness. point taken though.

Naos

columok wrote:

Eat more lean meat and more vegetables and make sure you're full. Example... Make a bolognese sauce with loadsa meat and loadsa veg. Eat a big bowl of it with no pasta. Eat some fruit. That'll fill you for ages.

Thats a sure way of failing. Try eating a slice or two of turkey aswell. Or an egg. Protein fills tummies.

A sure way of failing? Eating some tuna?
I started today, have stuck to the guidelines bar 1 potato at dinner. Tomor none..

columok

A sure way of failing? Eating some tuna?

No having protein as a "maybe" is. If you've a big time interval between breakfast and lunch you need protein to fill you in the morning. I find that fruit alone doesnt keep me full-ish for long enough. In an ideal world you could eat as you go but this isn't possible.

Naos

Ah I get you colum, misread the post/was stupid at the time.

Rofl at drunken clive sig..