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Congratulations HDC!

  • 15-08-2005 12:50am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭


    Congratulations to the HDC (Hurling development commitee) on the start of a successful Christy Ring cup.

    I thought the Christy Ring cup final was a great advert for the new competition. I was pleasently suprised by the standard of the match and thought that the best team won in the end.

    Next season it'll get better because I'm sure there are 1 or 2 teams looking on in envy at todays match and realising they should have made more of an effort.

    The attendence from Westmeath and Down fans was very disapointing though. I think with a bit of exposure like today the fans will start coming, in years to come.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Here Here!

    Westmeath Hurlers are a nice outfit and with a better defence they could actually retain Tier One status in 2007. Some of their point taking was excellent. Congratulations to the HDC and all counties involved.

    I will look forward to the Rackard Cup final on Sunday.

    Now if only we could get Kilkenny playing football!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    Improvements are needed in the system. Counties should have more flexibility as to which competition they play in. Don't Down deserve a chance in the McCarthy Cup if they wanted it? As a result of Antrim going out, we have no Ulster teams in it next year. I am sure both of them would like to compete in it, and they should be allowed to do so or choose the Christy Ring Cup if they want.

    As to Kilkenny Football, if the county board won't do it, sack them and get one in that will. Kilkenny won the first Leinster Senior Football title and have 3 in total. 10 counties in Ireland have won their respective senior football provincial titles less than that. Fermanagh have never won one, and neither have Wicklow. Westmeath only won their first last year. Carlow and Longford only have one, as do Limerick and Waterford. Sligo, Leitrim and Clare only have 2. All of those counties compete in their respective provincial football championships so there is no reason why Kilkenny shouldn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭KnowItAll


    Flukey wrote:
    Improvements are needed in the system. Counties should have more flexibility as to which competition they play in. Don't Down deserve a chance in the McCarthy Cup if they wanted it? As a result of Antrim going out, we have no Ulster teams in it next year. I am sure both of them would like to compete in it, and they should be allowed to do so or choose the Christy Ring Cup if they want.
    I disagree. The northern teams don't deserve to go into the McCarthy cup because they are not good enough or maybe they don't take thing serious enough like Antrim this year. I think when they get their act togethar they could be a force.

    The relegation/promotion system means that they all have an oppertunity to get into the McCarthy cup next year should they deserve to. The new system will make all teams more competive over the comming years as they now have something to play for. The benefits of the new system won't be known for years... or maybe not as I'm sure there are more kids taking up hurling in Westmeath now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 718 ✭✭✭thirdmantackle


    It might also make a few of the middle tier counties realise that if they get their underage structures in order and develop hurling a bit more that they now have a competition most counties have a realistic chance of winning

    Might make a lot of players who don't want to bother with county hurling have a rethink

    Roscommon being one of these. If we could get all our potential players lining out for the county team we wouldn't be a bad outfit

    I would definitely have rated the likes of Kerry, Meath, Derry ahead of Westmeath in Hurling (and Derry got relegated!!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    I agree Thirdmantackle. There are a lot of counties out there with potential. The new system will help in some ways, by giving competitive summer hurling, but the one up, one down system could be counter-productive. Under the old system not every county chose to play for the McCarthy Cup, but there was nothing for them if they didn't. Now there is. They will improve as a result, but restricting the step up to one county could have a negative effect on the rest.

    It is not completely true, as KnowItAll put it, that they all have the opportunity to move up. There can be only one winner of the Christy Ring Cup, but there could be more than one team that might be capable of making an impact at a higher level, but they are not being allowed that chance. It is designed to let the lower teams improve their skills and get better so that they can compete with the bigger powers, so when they feel that they have done so, they should be given the chance. I fully support the Ring and Rackard Cups and what they are trying to achieve but more flexibility and choice for the teams should be part of the system.

    A winning team might even want to stay and defend their title and improve their skills more before moving up a level. That might be better for them and their confidence and chances of survival in the top tier. It could be better than going straight back down the following year from the top tier and the negative effects that that might have on them. Most improving teams take a few years to get to the top.


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