Dublin vs Tyrone delayed thrown in time

Trampas

Thrown in time

What do people think of the delay of the thrown in??

I was one who missed nearly the 1st 10 mins trying to get into the canal end.

Must have taken us over 30mins to get in.

They could have delayed the thrown in until 4 or opened the gates instead of trying to get everyone in through 12 turnstiles.

I don't think anyone who haven't got a ticket would have gone that far.

Lemlin

Yes, but why was there such a rush on? According to the commentators it was because everyone was drinking in the pubs outside and not bothering to make their way to the match. Then, there was a big last minute rush.

If this is true, and there were no traffic jams or problems outside, then I'd be of the opinion that the game shouldn't of been delayed at all. I'm as fond of a pint as anyone but throw in shouldn't be delayed so people can have a few tipples.

m_stan

I was there @ 3 o clock trying to get into the lower Hogan. The queues were a joke. I don't think it's unreasonable to try to get in 30mins before kickoff without it taking less than this time. Not sure what was wrong here. It was my first time on the new Hogan stand. Previous experiences in the Cusack for big games were never as bad. Maybe some people leaving it too late, but dont think that explains all.

Trampas

Another problem was that people where handing in their ticket to get the stump ribbed off instead of ripping it off and just handing it to the person at the turnstile.

That would have been quicker also.

It was the longest it has ever taken me to get into croker by a mile.

12 turnstiles for the canal end is to few.

How many does the canal end hold?? 15,000??

Flukey

The reason for the long queues is very simple. The big difference yesterday was that there was no curtain raiser, so the people that would normally come in early for the first game of the day were arriving at the same time as the people who would normally only come in for the last game of the day. It's a very simple rule: Get there early.

*marie*

I just thought it was delayed cause everyone was in the pub watching the end of the United match...!

KevIRL

Flukey wrote:

The reason for the long queues is very simple. The big difference yesterday was that there was no curtain raiser, so the people that would normally come in early for the first game of the day were arriving at the same time as the people who would normally only come in for the last game of the day. It's a very simple rule: Get there early.

Isnt it always the way for Dublin matches that the fans leave it very late to come in though? This isnt any dig at Dublin fans btw. But I was always lead to believe from any Dub fan I've ever spoken to that they dont arrive into the gorund until approx 10-15 mins before kickoff?

flowerpotfrog

Hi Guys,

I was at this game yesterday. Yes the queues at the canal end entrance were very bad. I think one of two of the turnstiles were closed too! Luckily enough, I made it through the barrier around 15:35 so made the throw in. There were very many people behind me as i entered so i'm not surprised some people messed a part of the match. But, I'd be very surprised if these people didn't leave the pub a bit later then they should have...;-)

Flukey

KevIrl, I am a Dubliner and I always go to Croke Park before the first match and don't leave until after the final whistle of the last game. It is far from being a Dublin phenomenon, last minute arriving fans. It doesn't matter who is playing, there are always just before the big game and totally late arrivals. They often miss the best match of the day too.

It was the fact that there was no curtain raiser that made the big difference. If there was I'd have been in my seat before 1:30pm, as would a lot of the rest of the people that were queueing to get in late. I got in on time as it happened, just about. I said to a few people around me in the queue that they would delay it and sure enough, a few moments later the announcement came.

The Rooster

Put a game between any two counties in the country on, with a 70 or 80 thousand in attendance and no curtain raiser, you are going to get the exact same situation.

To call it a "Dublin thing" as that idiot Colm O'Rourke did, is just, well, idiotic. You'd swear the 20,000 Tyrone fans were sitting patiently in the stands waiting for the 60,000 Dubs to arrive :rolleyes:

Lemlin

as that idiot Colm O'Rourke did

I think a bit of respect is due for Colm O'Rourke. He may be from Meath, which is any Dub's fans most hated county (and one of my own most hated), but he was a very good footballer and won more All-Irelands than me or you ever will.

The Rooster

So good footballers can't be idiots?

And they can say whatever sheight they want and not be pulled up on it because they've a couple of All Ireland medals in their pocket? :rolleyes:

Lemlin

Well he wasn't the only one saying it. Joe Brolly said exactly the same and people above have said that it was supporters waiting for the end of soccer matches on TV that delayed things.

Numerous other people I've spoken to who attended the game have told me that there were alot of people hanging round the pubs, some not even sure of the throw in time.

Fact is, there were no traffic jams or other problems reported outside so the crowd had only two reasons for being late: either they didn't plan their journey properly or were stuck in the pub.

Matches have taken places in stadiums smaller than Croker with less than half the turnstiles, with crowds of 35,000 or more, and no curtain raiser, and managed to start on time.

I think delaying throw-ins is a bad trend to start and will only worsen the situation.

m_stan

Look, whatever the reasons - it was delayed for the safety of all those in and around Croker. Therefore, it was the right decision. End of story.

Maybe next time there should be a curtain raiser, a throw in a little further from the end of a big soccer game, and a bit of understanding from everyone inconvenienced for the whole 15mins.

Big deal

Bogger77

m_stan wrote:

Look, whatever the reasons - it was delayed for the safety of all those in and around Croker. Therefore, it was the right decision. End of story.

Maybe next time there should be a curtain raiser, a throw in a little further from the end of a big soccer game, and a bit of understanding from everyone inconvenienced for the whole 15mins.

Big deal

typical of the Dublin attitude, God forbid that they be put out. I mean, it's bad enough that the match was on a Saturday, but they had to cheek to clash with a game played in another country.

Shocking state of affairs!

VERYinterested

Well I am from Dublin and was in my seat a good three quarters of a hour before throw in and as was quite rightly posted further up, the Tyrone supporters were not in their seats waiting patiently for the rest of us to arrive. So maybe you should say "Typical Dublin and Tyrone thing" It happens now and again for big games across the world and safety is paramount, so what's 15 minutes where lives are at stake? Of course it is really an excuse to have a dig at Dublin. How dare all these bandwagon boys (even though all Dublin's games to date have been well attended unlike Cork and Kerry) be allowed in to Croke Park. The 'neutrals' are just sick that it will be late August and Dublin are still involved. So what if they were watching a soccer match or in a brothel? The fact of the matter is that they arrived late and for safety the throw in was delayed. Get over it!

The Rooster

Its just typical of the anti-Dublin idiocy you get from some people.

Anyone there (not this would exclude Lemlin and all the others who've complained about the Dubs) would have noted the Hill was practically full at 3.30pm, as was the Cusack. It was the Canal End and Hogan that still had thousands of empty seats. There wasnt enough turnstiles open/available to deal with the crowd all coming in at the same time. This would have been the same no matter what two teams were playing (assuming full house and no curtain raiser).

There were huge queues at the Canal (in particular) and Hogan from about 3pm, and more people arriving each minute than were getting in, and the closer it was getting to throw-in the more people were skipping the queue. It was common sense to delay the throw-in, and it only took an extra 15 minutes to have everybody in.

But sure, some people can't resist the chance to have a dig at the Dubs.

Danno

I blame it on the Pubs - and I feel that the Stewards should turn away patrons with "a little too much drink taken" when they arrive at the turnstiles - next time they would arrive on time. Drinking should be left till after the matches anyways...

Lemlin

I feel that the Stewards should turn away patrons with "a little too much drink taken" when they arrive at the turnstiles - next time they would arrive on time. Drinking should be left till after the matches anyways...

Well said Danno. One punter I was talking to who went to the game reckons he arrived into a pub beside Croker at half 2 to find more than a few individuals a bit too full.

I don't think you can blame the pubs though, they're just trying to make a quick buck.

dcr22B

I was in my seat in the Canal End at 3.05pm on Saturday afternoon and I experienced no difficulties with queues getting in, to be honest it was no more different than usual.

However, I was annoyed that the throw-in was delayed because of other spectators being late but more so out of concern for the players who had done their warm-up and were now resigned to kicking their heels.

I'm just wondering would the GAA have a curatin raiser for the replay and it may be worth their while considering there were 4,000 empty seats in the stadium as well as the fact that the Tyrone contingent may be smaller as I'm sure there are only so many trips to Dublin that they can afford this year.

Triton

Its a bad showing from both sets of fans if a game is needed before hand to get them into the stadium. All Championship long games have went ahead in far smaller pitches, with less turnstiles and facilities than headquarters, yet there have been little or no games delayed.

Yavvy

its because there was no curtain raiser. I realised this before the game and was waiting on the hill at 3pm. nothing more nothing less. regardless of how much people want to drink(not that i approve) untill what ever time. when you have 20-30k trying to enter at once there will be a delay.

Im looking forward to watching the dublin ladies "the Jackies" beat tyrone on Saterday before the main event

C'mon the Dubs

Flukey

12:45pm throw-in for the ladies match and 2:30pm for the big one on Saturday.

m_stan

Flukey wrote:

12:45pm throw-in for the ladies match and 2:30pm for the big one on Saturday.

so has the ladies game been moved to Croker ? I know they were trying to make that happen ? If so, total winner as I will get to see both games !

m_stan

answered my own question - http://www.hill16.ie/viewstoryhill16.asp?mainheading=Ladies+Football&id=5487&viewstory=yes

total winner !