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Some UCD related questions

  • 12-08-2005 6:09pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33


    1) What's the difference, if any, between Belgrove and Merville residences? Which is preferable?
    2) Is the supermarket on campus a Centra/Spar/chain store or an independent? Is it overpriced? Is there a good range of products?
    3) Is Bondi worth the hype? Where is it in Stillorgan and is a bus stop nearby? Anywhere else in the area good for a night out?
    4) Are meals in canteen reasonably priced even though they are subsidised?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    1) Dont' know, sorry.
    2) Its a Centra and much like the rest of UCD can be overpriced. The rolls there are ok and a cheaper alternative to the restaurant.
    3) Bondi is for kiddies. No its not worth the hype and the only reason I went to the christmas party last year was because it is close to my house.
    4)HaHaHaHa! Nope, pretty expensive. Due to long hours last year a sandwich wouldnt normally suffice so went to restaurant about 3 or 4 days a week. 6 or 7 euro for a full meal with a drink. Sounds cheap, not if your a student and it adds up fairly quick! Food was ok though, kept ya going through the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭kasintahan


    1) Don't know. I'm not on campus.
    2) Centra? And it's not too bad. It's as competitive as any Centra. A little on the small side but not tiny.
    3) Bondi is for the younger crowd (16-19) usually. Some of the soc's run events there though, they might be ok - the venue itself is quite nice. Busstop outside (46a, 75, 84), it's in Stillorgan. Not many places nearby for a night out, Club 92 is in Foxrock/Sandyford (25 min walk), but the buses into town are frequent.
    4) Canteen food I wouldn't feed to my dog, and I don't even have a dog! It's waaay over priced too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭Bri


    1) If they build the new apartments quickly enough ("Merville 2" or something) they would be even better that either. Merville is more spread out, Belgrove has more of a party atmosphere unless your living in Merville's main square(s). Both are preferable to Roebuck.
    2) Centra is sooo much better than what we used to have. Honestly you have no idea how lucky you new kids are! It's grand priced and convient. They've been constantly expanding most things and it now has a reasonable deli (for students anyway) that's cheaper than the Spar up the hill. The banklink now works in it and they have all the usual you'd expect. Veg. is about the most limited aspect. The staff are generally pretty decent too and the owner is very approachable. There's a Supervalu (small one) just outside Fosters Avenue buried in the housing estates if you feel like doing a bigger shop). I dunno where the other poster got that it was over-priced...I havn't exactly done tests but it's a convience shop and seems very much in line with the rest of them.
    3) Depends on your age. 46A across the road.
    4) The restaurant is awful and awfully overpriced. Put it in perspective - I havn't eaten in there in over a year (and back then I had no real choice). Food on campus is limited but there's always The Grind and O'Briens. The Forum has gone completely down hill and the student bar is woeful. Perk if you feel your worth it. Downstairs in the restaurant is measly and can add up if you try mix and match a few crappy bits of food. Upstairs is aimed at staff (although open to everyone) and is still crap.

    UCD is what you make of it - Enjoy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭AngelofFire


    1) From visiting both, i would say that merville is better

    2)Centra on Campus is a bit overprices, the SU shop in the Library building has a good selection of goods.

    3) Bondai is the Mecca for D4 cliques, rugger buggers, ex private school typres, and people who havnt worked a part time job in their life who get through college by sponging off their rich parents.

    4)The Canteen food is muck, i order 'Chicken Korma' and i end up getting Chicken, Rice and an Oxo Cube, the forum and student club bars have good meal schemes which run from about 12pm to 6pm during term


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    there's a Centra on campus????

    people who havnt worked a part time job in their life who get through college by sponging off their rich parents.


    *cough*seb*cough*

    :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    It's at Merville Peachy. Under some of the res - mainly the reception and RA's res. They've changed the sign over the door from green to black - looks kind of classy for a Centra.

    Kate:

    1) What's the difference, if any, between Belgrove and Merville residences? Which is preferable?

    Merville res are newer and don't feel as grimey. They also have more carpet, less manky lino and are just nicer in general. They're better laid out too, IMO. I'd go for Merville over Belgrove any day - you can always make friends in Belgrove for the party atmosphere by association. Merville has the shop, Belgrove has the laundry room. Either way, avoid Roebuck like the plague.

    2) Is the supermarket on campus a Centra/Spar/chain store or an independent? Is it overpriced? Is there a good range of products?

    They do special offers regularly, but as with any Centra, it's worth the busfare to go to Stillorgan and shop in Tesco - or walk to Merrion, it's not that far and it's a nice walk. There's also Spar in Clonskeagh if you're in Belgrove or Spar in Roebuck if you're in Merville for the alcohol - although Clonskeagh has the offlicense too. No alcohol is sold during term in Centra - college rules. As for range of products, it's comparable with most other small centras. I'd still only use it for emergencies though, as doing all your shopping there would get very pricey very quickly. Come to think of it, Super Valu in Merrion is quite close too. Go out onto Foster Avenue, cross the road and turn left at the roundabout. Keep walking to the next roundabout and take a left. It's down about a block. Only ever bought wine there though.

    3) Is Bondi worth the hype? Where is it in Stillorgan and is a bus stop nearby? Anywhere else in the area good for a night out?

    Never been to Bondi, but heard enough about it to make me pretty sure it's not for me. Seeing the kids on the bus heading to Bondi makes me think it's a step above the Wezz. Fashion Show held events there. That's enough for me to avoid it. To get to Bondi, get the 46a, 63 or 84 to Stillorgan. Get off outside the Stillorgan shopping centre and walk to the end of the road (which sounds much further than it actually is) It's across the road. Alternatively go to the next bus stop and get off there, cross the N11 and you're outside it. It's safer to get off at the Stillorgan shopping centre though, and it's roughly the same distance to Bondi either way.

    4) Are meals in canteen reasonably priced even though they are subsidised?

    No, and the food is manky. Even the chips are rank. Although chicken goujons and chips with lashings of garlic sauce is yummy as a treat. Bloody pricey though. Fast food wise, Four Star and Dominos do studenty specials type things, from what I've heard. At one stage Four Star had an "Order one 16" pizza, get a second for €1" and the like. The SU shops are reasonable enough for small shops, but they can't compete with supermarket prices. If you want to get a hot meal with no fuss go to either the Studdent Bar or the Forum. They do chips and soup, sandwiches, sausages and nuggets and other fast/snack foods, and proper dinners too. Just go either before the lunchtime rush or in the evening. It's (usually) quite nice food though. And it's cheaper than the restaurant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭blondie83


    Centra is quite good, its much cheaper in certain things than other Centras I've gone into, so I reckon it must be subsidised or something. The resteraunt is absolutely woeful, you order what you think is lamb/chicken curry, and you end up getting grizzle with some spices thrown on top :( Don't go in there, student bar does higher quality food for the same price or cheaper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,391 ✭✭✭arbeitsscheuer


    Kate_17 wrote:
    1) What's the difference, if any, between Belgrove and Merville residences? Which is preferable?
    2) Is the supermarket on campus a Centra/Spar/chain store or an independent? Is it overpriced? Is there a good range of products?
    3) Is Bondi worth the hype? Where is it in Stillorgan and is a bus stop nearby? Anywhere else in the area good for a night out?
    4) Are meals in canteen reasonably priced even though they are subsidised?

    1) Both pretty much the same tbh. Been in both, as a guest thankfully, (I wouldn't wanna live there but I could say the same for the on-campus accomodation of pretty much every college in the greater Dublin area). Blush said avoid Roebuck like the plague. No argument here.

    2) Centra. Never been there, it's too far away from where I hang out (literally only about 50 yards if that, but I'm called a Bum for a reason y'know).

    3) Bondi s*cks donkey balls. But I think it's 3 yoyo a drink on tuesday or thursday or some smeg like that. Avoid it tbh, there are better places to go. Altho none in the UCD area spring to mind (I wonder why). My aversion to all things D4 has led me to avoid sampling the *nightlife* of donnybrook, stillorgen et al.

    4) F**k the price, the food's inedible darlin'. Seriously, just rob something from the arts cafe if you're that desperate. Never, even in the depths of intense starvation, should you even consider availing of the food in the Canteen.
    *Shudders at the very thought*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    Hey, no fair. Why does Seb get to say it so much better than I could? *pouts*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,391 ✭✭✭arbeitsscheuer


    I thought you made your point splendidly, sweetheart.
    Much better answers than I could ever muster up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭larryone


    1) Merville is slightly nicer, but Belgrove is closer to the arts block. Some of the arts students I've known ove the past few years loved the ability to fall out of bed and land in a lecture theatre. Robuck AFAIK isnt too nice. But if you have eny doubts as to whether or not your application for on campus accom will be accepted, then put down Robuck first, as so few people do this yer almost guarenteed a place if you put it down as a preference....
    2) Centra, it's grand.
    3) Mih. I think all that needs saying has been said.
    4) I dont think enough can be said about how bad the "restaurant" is to even come close to a realistic description. I ate there yesterday for the first time since 2003, and felt ill afterwards. I think it's an immunity thing. Once you get used to it, you can eat there. I ate there loads in 1st year and 2nd year, and then once or twice when I was in 3rd year. Every time I swore "never again". I'd even go to 911 and eat their food before going to the restaurant again. Horrendously overpriced, unfriendly staff, and the food has three main tastes. Salt, Pepper, and Bland. I wouldnt be supprised if they started chaarging for their salt and pepper too... Also, clenliness isnt their strongest point. Generally: AVOID!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭Bri


    Blush_01 wrote:
    Belgrove has the laundry room.
    If you live in Merville just walk down to Glenomena (literally just next door) and use the laundry there.

    Supervalu in cheaper than Spar on Fosters and wayyy cheaper than Merrion Tesco (which is 24hr now during the weekdays). Even though Supervalu has expanded recently it's still pretty cramped and v. few students use it. Tesco stillorgan sucks but is cheap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 388 ✭✭Blut


    1) What's the difference, if any, between Belgrove and Merville residences? Which is preferable?
    Belgrove has always struck me as being way more fun anytime Ive been up there, however the apartments can be a bit of a kip very easily if you dont have 2 roommates who're concerned about making the place look nice. Merville is slightly classier but less fun.

    2) Is the supermarket on campus a Centra/Spar/chain store or an independent? Is it overpriced? Is there a good range of products?
    Unless youre in Law you probably wont ever see the supervalu on campus, the big places for food are the subar/canteen/obriens/various cafes in each faculty.

    3) Is Bondi worth the hype? Where is it in Stillorgan and is a bus stop nearby? Anywhere else in the area good for a night out?
    Bondi last year was excellent most wednesdays and good on some thursdays. Its 3e a drink and nearly everyone there is 1st&2nd arts/commerce/law/bess so its a really good crowd. Plus its pretty local for a lot of people so its a cheap taxi ride home. All the big UCD events are on there (Fashion show afterparty, pj party, school uniform party etc) so I dont really know how someone whos been in the college for 1 year+ couldnt have been there yet, spot the weirdo maybe. Theres a busstop near it which is handy for getting the last bus up to it but youll need to be getting taxis home. Anabels and 92 are the two other big southside area clubs and both have their advantages/disadvantages. Chances are if youre semi normal youll spend a decent amount of time in all 3 and in various clubs in town though so youll see!

    4) Are meals in canteen reasonably priced even though they are subsidised?
    The canteen food is both overpriced and absolutely awful. Generally if Im in there Ill make a point of not buying anything and just waiting till we go to the bar to get food.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    You know Blut, I take offence at that. Especially the "spot the weirdo" comment. And 92 is horribly elitist when it comes to looks. They let orange tarts in, yet one of my friends had to cry to be let in - and she's the kind of person who enjoys places like 92 and Bondi.

    There are more people in the world than those who get their jollies getting hammered and wiggling to (IMO) crap tunes. And there are plenty of places to go in Dublin to have a bit of fun if that kind of thing isn't what you're into.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,391 ✭✭✭arbeitsscheuer


    Blush_01 wrote:
    You know Blut, I take offence at that. Especially the "spot the weirdo" comment. And 92 is horribly elitist when it comes to looks. They let orange tarts in, yet one of my friends had to cry to be let in - and she's the kind of person who enjoys places like 92 and Bondi.

    There are more people in the world than those who get their jollies getting hammered and wiggling to (IMO) crap tunes. And there are plenty of places to go in Dublin to have a bit of fun if that kind of thing isn't what you're into.

    I was gonna post the same, but blush beat me to it. Kudos.

    I've been in UCD 3 years now. Never been to Bondi, 92, or for that matter Annabel's, Kiely's etc... You can call me a "weirdo" all you want, but I know a HELLUVA lot of ppl who are the same. It just ain't our scene.

    Individualistic Fallacy rears its ugly head yet again, ladies n gents... :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 388 ✭✭Blut


    And 92 is horribly elitist when it comes to looks.

    How on earth can you think this is a bad thing? The whole problem with certain clubs (think coyote, red box, most places in town) is theyre full of ugly people/scangers/fat people, its good when clubs are proactive about preventing this type of thing.

    Im sorry but the only people Ive ever met who 'dislike' clubs are those who're ugly and or have very low self esteem. You can talk about disliking the music or having to wear a shirt or the D4 HORRIBLE PEOPLE or whatever all you like but its generally pretty obvious the only reason you dislike them is because you cant score...

    My spot the weirdo comment was because when nearly every college event worth talking about is on in clubs and you miss them all its pretty obvious youre missing out on a big chunk of college life. Well that and the above ugly thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭Bri


    For all that Blut may have a fairly myopic viewpoint, no-one jumped up and down at this earlier comment...for all that you may agree with it; there's a sweeping statement of contempt if I ever saw one:
    3) Bondai is the Mecca for D4 cliques, rugger buggers, ex private school typres, and people who havnt worked a part time job in their life who get through college by sponging off their rich parents.
    Why bother drag this thread down into a debate on the merits of one lifestyle or another?

    It's this kind of crap that makes the UCD board suck. Perhaps we might get lucky and not raise the age old D4 question once again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Blut wrote:
    I dont really know how someone whos been in the college for 1 year+ couldnt have been there yet, spot the weirdo maybe.

    Yeah that must be it - they're weird. Or maybe they don't actually live on the Southside and would prefer to go to a club that's a little closer to home?


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    indeed. and the twice i was there it was crap anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Jonny Arson


    Blut wrote:
    3) Is Bondi worth the hype? Where is it in Stillorgan and is a bus stop nearby? Anywhere else in the area good for a night out?[/i]
    Bondi last year was excellent most wednesdays and good on some thursdays. Its 3e a drink and nearly everyone there is 1st&2nd arts/commerce/law/bess so its a really good crowd. Plus its pretty local for a lot of people so its a cheap taxi ride home. All the big UCD events are on there (Fashion show afterparty, pj party, school uniform party etc) so I dont really know how someone whos been in the college for 1 year+ couldnt have been there yet, spot the weirdo maybe. Theres a busstop near it which is handy for getting the last bus up to it but youll need to be getting taxis home. Anabels and 92 are the two other big southside area clubs and both have their advantages/disadvantages. Chances are if youre semi normal youll spend a decent amount of time in all 3 and in various clubs in town though so youll see!

    roysh :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭Bri


    Bri wrote:
    It's this kind of crap that makes the UCD board suck. Perhaps we might get lucky and not raise the age old D4 question once again.
    Nope, as usual here we go. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,391 ✭✭✭arbeitsscheuer


    Blut wrote:
    Im sorry but the only people Ive ever met who 'dislike' clubs are those who're ugly and or have very low self esteem. You can talk about disliking the music or having to wear a shirt or the D4 HORRIBLE PEOPLE or whatever all you like but its generally pretty obvious the only reason you dislike them is because you cant score...

    My spot the weirdo comment was because when nearly every college event worth talking about is on in clubs and you miss them all its pretty obvious youre missing out on a big chunk of college life. Well that and the above ugly thing.

    Wow. Just...
    Wow.

    Absolutely BLINDING insight from Blut there. I think we should all bow to acknowledge this man's rationality-defying leap into ignorance. Marvellous.
    *Applauds*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭Syth


    Honestly people, stop feeding the troll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭kasintahan


    Calm down everyone and keep you're trousers on.... or not, see if I care... Hell, I'm European, let's all take our trousers off, or something...

    annnyyyyway... BOTH Anabels and Bondi will be closing in the next year or so.
    The latter to make way for apartments, the former for an exclusive businessmens club.
    Anabels is already been reduced in size as reconstruction work takes place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    So where are all the snobby little D4's gonna drink away Doddy's money?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭kasintahan


    So where are all the snobby little D4's gonna drink away Doddy's money?

    O'Briens for takeout and then down to Fiachra's pad for a righteous houseparty?
    Maybe like Cindy will go the whole way this time and actually score someone, but like, we're not inviting Tara - he's so uncool. Word.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,391 ✭✭✭arbeitsscheuer


    You were doing so well with that imitation up until the "Word" malarky.
    Must try harder.

    Anyway, the closing of Bondai and Anabels will have one devastating consequence: There will be a lot more D4 donnies in the Student Bar when we're there. Oh yes. Now our boards meet-ups will be accompanied by an ambience of "y'know", "loike", "roysh" and "scobie".

    Goodie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭kasintahan


    SebtheBum wrote:
    You were doing so well with that imitation up until the "Word" malarky.

    Tosh, it's an emergent trend that's been adopted by D4 from posher side of Kilmacud (St Benildus et al).

    'sides, the day they grant you licence to slag the D4's is the same day I sing God Save the Queen... and I don't mean the Sex Pistols version! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,391 ✭✭✭arbeitsscheuer


    kasintahan wrote:
    'sides, the day they grant you licence to slag the D4's is the say day I sing God Save the Queen... and I don't mean the Sex Pistols version! :p
    Huh? :confused:

    Care to explain what you mean by that, pal?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭blondie83


    SebtheBum wrote:
    I've been in UCD 3 years now. Never been to Bondi, 92, or for that matter Annabel's, Kiely's etc... You can call me a "weirdo" all you want, but I know a HELLUVA lot of ppl who are the same. It just ain't our scene.
    Went to Annabels once with my class, and it was without a doubt the worst night we ever had (and all were agreed on this). It wasnt like we weren't trying or anything, hell it ws the day our 3rd year exams were over for Gods sake all we needed was a comfortable place and some drink! I really cannot stress just how much I will never be going near that place though - I feel that in anticipation of Blut telling me that I just hate D4 heads I should mention that I did go to school in Dublin 4 myself and thoroughly enjoyed it!

    Oh and everyone should go to Kiely's at least once just for the laugh - they actually have a cocktail named after Brian O'Driscoll :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭kasintahan


    No problemo...

    The turn of phrase
    SebtheBum wrote:
    4) F**k the price, the food's inedible darlin'.

    The origin of the species
    SebtheBum wrote:
    Kent. Used to live there, so...

    Go on the Keyser!!! LOL

    And the expensive jeans :p
    SebtheBum wrote:
    England shirt
    River Island jeans
    Battered blue Converse runners


    I jest, as always.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,391 ✭✭✭arbeitsscheuer


    ah yeah I know, I was just playin'.

    But still... You equate Englishness with D4ness?
    I, honestly, just don't see the connection. Where's the first place English ppl head when they're here? Templebar. Hardly a Posh-Dub stronghold.

    Anyway, nevermind - this thread has spiralled into a D4-bashing session anyway, when was the last post that addressed the OP's questions?

    Not this post anyway... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    kasintahan wrote:
    BOTH Anabels and Bondi will be closing in the next year or so.
    The latter to make way for apartments, the former for an exclusive businessmens club.
    Anabels is already been reduced in size as reconstruction work takes place.

    Loike seriously? No focking way! I was talking to Sorcha and she was loike "OH my God! That is sooo not cool". Fionn couldn't believe the news either when I told him. Am I loike supposed to go hang around clubs where there's skobies whenever I want to have a bit of craic?

    My parents loike worked too hard during the week for me to spend their money in places like that, roysh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 Kate_17


    Thanks everyone for all your advice. Will hopefully be seeing ye all in September ;) Anyone think that before college, it seems like there's so much to do once you get there that you might miss something? Lectures, societies, going out, learning how to fend for oneself etc etc...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭kasintahan


    Just one - If you want to pass first year then attend all (most) of your lectures, you won't even have to study. Mind you, that's just for first year and that's just a pass but it's a solid base to work from.

    I can't advise you on the social aspect as I'm not all that sociable :o
    Do join loads of societies and attend a few of their events in the first couple of months, you can always decide which ones you like or dislike later.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    OP - Do your continuous assessment. Even if you do really badly, if you have to appeal it makes your case stronger. Even if it's done really badly, make sure it's in on time. Half-assed (or less) is ok, you're a fresher. Also, attend all your tutorials. They count for marks. Participation will make your mark higher, so pretend to do the work for your tutorials, and look interested. Answer questions and (once again) just look like you're interested - even when cruelly hungover. Learn the art of waffle. You'll never need it more.

    I got through first year with no work by going to all my lectures and tutorials and handing in rubbish continuous assessment. 2.1s in English and Philosophy and a high 2.2 in Psych, having done nothing in the line of revision/study all year. I read the novels for the essays in english and that was the full extent of it. If I can do it, everyone can.

    Best of luck wednesday (if you're getting leaving cert results).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 852 ✭✭✭m1ke


    1) What's the difference, if any, between Belgrove and Merville residences? Which is preferable?
    No idea

    2) Is the supermarket on campus a Centra/Spar/chain store or an independent? Is it overpriced? Is there a good range of products?
    SU shop - decent enuff prices.... Centra near the res area normalish prices.... Go to aldi or lidl if you're looking for shopping.

    3) Is Bondi worth the hype? Where is it in Stillorgan and is a bus stop nearby? Anywhere else in the area good for a night out?
    I was on a beach called Bondi in Oz and that's about as near as i've been in my time at UCD. Stick to town and you can't go wrong.

    4) Are meals in canteen reasonably priced even though they are subsidised?
    I ate there once and never did again, it was that bad.

    Tbh with ya.... there's nothing in UCD that can't be got somewhere else much better.... so i'd look beyond the campus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    I know I shouldn't, but I have to.
    [rant]How on earth can you think this is a bad thing? The whole problem with certain clubs (think coyote, red box, most places in town) is theyre full of ugly people/scangers/fat people, its good when clubs are proactive about preventing this type of thing.

    Im sorry but the only people Ive ever met who 'dislike' clubs are those who're ugly and or have very low self esteem. You can talk about disliking the music or having to wear a shirt or the D4 HORRIBLE PEOPLE or whatever all you like but its generally pretty obvious the only reason you dislike them is because you cant score...


    You, my friend, are an idiot. Have you ever heard that "beauty is only skin deep" and "you should never judge a book by it's cover"? I especially take offence at that fat people comment. I've had a weight problem since I was 6 weeks old. This morning I was at the bus stop and a car with four guys in their early to mid 20s in it drove past, with one of them yelling "fat bitch" at me as it did so. I don't have to justify my appearance to them, you, or to anyone else. Nor is my girth any indication of my intelligence, how much fun I am when I'm out, what my interests are... you should get the drift by now. The treatment people who don't fit into the visual clique that you prescribe get is disgusting. That's hardly esteem building. Neither is your attitude. If you can have an opinion, then so can I. The majority of the people who frequent the clubs you laud so much are, to my mind, cheap looking but expensively dressed versions of those skangers you claim keep you from most places in town. Many of them are lovely people - and many others are the upperclass scum of the emerald isle. A club's proactivity about keeping ugly/skangery/fat people out is far from something to be proud of. I'd prefer to go out with an ugly, fat knacker who accepted my right to have an individual opinion and identity and be who I am, than a hot, well-heeled and thin sheep who expected me to join the flock. Nor does the selection process involved in getting into those clubs avoid the presence of scum - look at Anabels. I'll say no more.

    Before I go on, I'd like to point out that this isn't a D4 thing - not in my mind anyway. I'm from Tipperary, and there are people at home who have the same attitude as Blut. So I'd love it if the argument here was reserved to people versus people, rather than postcode versus postcode. I lived in D4 for a year and currently live in what they tell me is Blackrock. It hasn't affected who I am or was. I'd also like to point out that Irishtown is in D4. No more need be said about that either.

    Finally, before I move on - do you think that people only score in Bondi, 92 and Anabels? It might be an interesting way of controlling the population, but it's certainly a very deluded one.

    My spot the weirdo comment was because when nearly every college event worth talking about is on in clubs and you miss them all its pretty obvious youre missing out on a big chunk of college life. Well that and the above ugly thing.

    Moving on... Nearly every college event worth talking about is not necessarily on in a club like 92 or Anabels. What about DramSoc performances? ELS workshops? Dive weekends? Any of the college football, hurling, camogie, soccer, rugby etc. matches? Debates, lectures (not the academic ones involved in courses, but the additional lectures that occur on campus by people like Judith Butler), balls such as Strauss, the Arts Ball, Eng Ball... and so on.

    Not everything revolves around the Surf Club, B&L, C&E and the Fashion Show.

    As for calling people ugly because they don't fit your exclusive criteria - give me a break. I may be "fat", if a person can be lost in favour of labelling them as a substance, but "big is beautiful". Surely it's more important to be who you are, than to live in a bubble where you consider yourself above the majority of the population due to the colour you chemically tint your skin or hair, or because of the clothes your clique allows you to wear?

    [/rant]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭larryone


    fair play to ye Blush.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 388 ✭✭Blut


    So basically, youre fat and angsty Blush_01. So I was 100% correct in my assumptions?

    and LOL at "beauty is only skin deep" and "big is beautiful", keep telling yourself that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    I'm not "fat and angsty". Far from it. And if you have to take personal digs at me then you obviously don't have much of a point to make. You didn't address one of the issues I brought up, not even to disagree. The best you could do was that lame excuse for a reply? Please, spare me. You're not worth my time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 388 ✭✭Blut


    I didnt bother because youre obviously not gonna change your mind, youre set in your 'the world is wrong, all those in shape, good looking, happy people are sheep, its not my fault Im fat' outlook. Plus it would just steer the thread even more offtopic. I just had to make that small reply because I was in bits laughing at your naivity/denial :)
    The threads still pretty useful to the OP anyway I imagine, even with the offtopicness. Itll give her an idea of the views of the majority (normal) say 80% in ucd and the minority, black clad angst ridden 20%.

    edit: oh and it wasnt a personal insult, merely an observation based on the facts you presented in your post. If youre big enough for random people to call you a "fat bitch" then youre obviously pretty overweight. Add in the angst from the tone of your posts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 539 ✭✭✭DawnMc


    I lived in Belgrove for first year, it's ok but Merville is supposed to be better.
    Very dodgy as the people you live with can be right psychos


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    To be honest, you'll get that anywhere, regardless of whether you live on campus or not. The advantage to living on campus in that situation is that you can arrange to switch accommodation. I know people who have done so in the past anyway.


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