Is my child becoming a homosexual?

damien

From the Focus on the Family nuts, you can't make this stuff up:

http://www.focusonyourchild.com/develop/art1/A0000684.html

Kinetic^

damien.m wrote:

From the Focus on the Family nuts, you can't make this stuff up:

http://www.focusonyourchild.com/develop/art1/A0000684.html

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

simu

Geez! I pity kids with parents who take that sort of stuff seriously.

Capt'n Midnight

http://www.focusonyourchild.com/develop/art1/A0000684.html

If Your Child Needs Help

If your child exhibits repeated overt prehomosexual tendencies:

1. Accept your child and affirm his or her worth regardless of the characteristics you observe. Show unconditional love.

Or just tell the parents it's genetic and watch the reaction when you tell them that their "latent homosexuality" could be triggered by taking their kids to a shrink :rolleyes:
FUD “great waves of guilt accompanied by secret fears of divine retribution.”

astec123

2. Homosexuality is rarely “chosen.” It’s unfair to tell a homosexual individual that he or she chose that lifestyle to pursue sexual excitement or some other motive. After all, Dr. Dobson says, “who among us would knowingly choose a path that would result in alienation from family, rejection from friends, disdain from the heterosexual world, exposure to sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS and tuberculosis, and even a shorter lifespan?”

Oh my oh my. Really so I can get AIDS from sleeping only with men or rather same sex partners. And a shorter life span? WTF?

http://www.cdc.gov/nchstp/tb/faqs/qa_introduction.htm#Intro1 and that kills the TB crap. Shows how badly written it is. And now in a new article they will tell us that ugly kids are more likely to be gay as they are mocked or shy away. Or that it is brought on by having a small penis or something.

5. There is growing evidence that change of sexual orientation is possible. Pro-homosexual organizations and members of the media have tried to convince our society that homosexuality is inevitable, immutable, irresistible, and therefore untreatable. “That is simply not true,” says Dr. Dobson. “There are 800 known former gay and lesbian individuals today who have escaped from the homosexual lifestyle and found wholeness in their newfound heterosexuality.”

Really. News to me. So humans are completely honest are we and wont lie or make things up to conform?

5. “The late Irving Bieber, a prominent researcher, observed that prehomosexual boys are sometimes the victims of their parents’ unhappy marital relationship. In a scenario where Mom and Dad are battling, one way Dad can ‘get even’ with Mom is by emotionally abandoning their son.” Give your boy what he needs — and get marital help.

The word "Sometimes" is used so thats clearly not scientific. Science isnt "ish" thing. What a load of BS, Im not gay but that is just pure Yank paranoia. If someone is going to be "gay" they are going to be gay! simple as that. What the hell decision is it of the parents as to what their child will be, my parents would of liked me to do another job but they support me in the one I want to do, so if my sexuality wasnt the norm then they should accept that. As per my job choice.

I advise anyone here to watch the episode below of tripping the rift. It is a comical change on what we (many seem, I should say) perceive as "normal" and "right".
You Wanna Put That Where? - episode 2 of season 2 - Tripping the rift.

OfflerCrocGod

At first I found it funny but further reading has changed my opinion to one of fear and disgust I really can't understand why some Americans can't simply grow up and accept facts, it's a seriously weird website.

shay_562

The words "utter", "crock" and "sh1t" spring to mind...

I honestly don't know whether to laugh or put my fist through the monitor. On the one hand, it's almost funny to read this crap if you imagine it as satire. On the other, I don't know whether I'm most insulted by the reference to homosexuality as a "disorder", the way they lump gender confusion and homosexuality into the same category (that whole "if your kid dresses like a girl, he's gay" paragraph) or the statement that gay people are trying to legalise paedophilia. I think, though, that the worst thing of all is the repeated references to getting 'help' for your gay children. Because, of course, being gay is such a terrible thing that the best course of action is to brainwash them into thinking they're straight.

God, these people make me sick.

claire h

That is... vile. And pseudo-scientific waffle wrapped in bad Freudian theory surrounded by a layer of unashamed bigotry.

I am staring at the 'homosexuality *is* a disorder" bit in disbelief right now. ****wits.

Stark

2. Most homosexuals are not pedophiles. But there is a vigorous homosexual-led campaign now under way to end the taboo.

3. Dr. James Dobson reports: “There is also the vigorous effort by gays to infiltrate the Boy Scouts in the same way lesbians have done so successfully in the Girl Scouts, where 33 percent of their staff is said to be lesbian.”

4. There is a worldwide campaign to lower the age when a child can legally give his or her consent for sexual intercourse with an adult. Why have pro-homosexual organizations worked so hard to lower the age of consent in country after country? There can be only one answer.

JFC. Jesus ****ing Christ.

As for the scouts, the scouts can be a great pastime for kids growing up and anyone who gives their time to help out in troops can only be commended.

Amnesiac_ie

"There is also the vigorous effort by gays to infiltrate the Boy Scouts in the same way gays have done so successfully in the Roman Catholic Church, where 33 percent of their staff is said to be gay."

Yoda

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

At first I found it funny but further reading has changed my opinion to one of fear and disgust I really can't understand why some Americans can't simply grow up and accept facts, it's a seriously weird website.

Bollocks. There is nothing particularly American about homophobia. In Egypt they behead homosexuals. And Ireland has little to be proud of, considering Wilde and Casement, the forward-thinking and timely way homosexuality was decriminalized, and indeed the present Government's intention to oppose the recognition of same-sex marriages valid in other jurisdictions.

What you meant to say is "I really can't understand why some stupid people can't simply grow up and accept facts", I think.

tonyj

From theonion.com archives

New Dad Thinks Baby Might Be Gay


Above: Oebrick and his possibly gay infant son Michael (inset).

SCOTTSDALE, AZ—Citing "something vaguely effeminate" about his eight-month-old son Michael, first-time father Joe Oebrick, 32, reported Tuesday that he suspects the infant may be a homosexual.

"I love my son," Oebrick said. "But, you understand, I'm worried, too."

Among the many "small signs" that suggest that his son may be gay, Oebrick cited a home video in which the toddler crawls across the living-room carpet of the family's suburban Scottsdale home, wiggling his hips from side to side.

"I don't think it's normal for a baby to move like that," said Oebrick, wincing as the infant paused and flapped an arm in the air. "Don't you think that's a little strange?"

According to Oebrick, Michael has an excessive fondness for bright colors and "things that sparkle."

"Sequins, glitter, feathers," said the recent father, listing some of the things that Michael likes. "And he really likes flowers."

According to Oebrick, Michael is fussy during meals and picky about his clothes. When he hurts himself, he "cries like a baby." Additionally, the toddler has a "very strong attraction" to a stuffed lion with a rainbow-striped mane, an apparent preference for bottle-feeding over breastfeeding, and an evident love for bouncing up and down in his jumper device "like some guy at a club."

New to parenting, Oebrick said he is "plagued" by demanding responsibilities, unexpected expenses, and "a million tiny things" that indicate that his infant son might be a homosexual.

Oebrick said he doubts that strangers can even tell that Michael is a boy when they first meet him, but he acknowledged that this is not his biggest concern. According to the recent father, his most urgent concern is the confused baby's constant need to suck on a pacifier.

"That can't be right. Can it?" Oebrick said.

Oebrick said he first began to worry about Michael's sexual orientation when the boy was two months old.

"He would giggle constantly," Oebrick said. "And he had a very weak handshake."

Oebrick recalled the first time he saw his newborn child smile.

"Obviously, I was thrilled," Oebrick said. "But the thing is, he kept on smiling. He'd smile through breakfast, he'd smile in his car seat, he'd smile at strangers. It was excessive. It was around then I started to think, 'What if Michael can't help himself?'"

According to Oebrick, there were several months during which the infant's head would wobble if it wasn't supported by an adult.

"He was always swinging his head around," Oebrick said. "Our pediatrician told me it was normal, but it seemed pretty... well, gay."

Oebrick's worries were renewed last month during a Memorial Day cookout, when Michael "seemed too interested in my buddies," staring at them for long intervals.

"My friend Ben was bouncing Michael on his knee, and he was giggling and drooling like crazy," Oebrick said. "That didn't bother me so much, but when Ben put him down, Michael started crawling after every other guy at the party, giggling and grabbing at their pants legs like crazy."

"It was like he was the belle of the ball," Oebrick said. "When Rob played peek-a-boo with him, he got so excited he actually wet his pants."

Oebrick repeatedly said that, no matter what his son's sexual orientation, he refuses to be a "distant father."

"My dad was rarely around," Oebrick said. "He was always either working or drinking with his buddies, and that left my mom to raise me and my sisters. It won't be like that for Michael. He'll have a strong male role model. It looks like he's really gonna need it."

curliq

there's one word for that: neurotic.


seriously, that baby's doin what every other 8 month old does.

america is getting increasingly paranoid about pointless things.
anyone else hear about his program Sad To Be Gay? it's all about a support group (in america) where people are trying to un-gay themselves......

tonyj

I should probably have pointed out that theonion.com is a satire website...

rsynnott

This is simply more evidence that People Are Stupid.

crazy_dude6662

they have these centers in america where people send there gay children.
the kids are strapped into a chair and show pornography of both men and women any time they get aroused for the same sex they are given electro shocks to the gentailia.

sick isnt it?

Stark

Uhm, I think that might be getting mixed up with "A Clockwork orange" there...

crazy_dude6662

neevr saw that movie. to young

curliq

tonyj wrote:

I should probably have pointed out that theonion.com is a satire website...

hehehe. oopsie

claire h

*has much love for The Onion*

*still hates the Focus On The Family And Be Moronic Prejudiced Assholes folk*

OfflerCrocGod

Yoda wrote:

Bollocks. There is nothing particularly American about homophobia.

No sorry what I meant was the idea that there is a way of "reversing" Homosexuality using drugs or "theraphy", these efforts are mainly American based. In the Middle-East they simply kill you there is no attempt at "curing" you.

rsynnott

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

No sorry what I meant was the idea that there is a way of "reversing" Homosexuality using drugs or "theraphy", these efforts are mainly American based. In the Middle-East they simply kill you there is no attempt at "curing" you.

Of late it's popular in the US. After WW2 it was briefly popular in the UK.

Four nations in the Middle East have the death penality for homosexuality. It is legal in three (Israel, Jordan, Palestine; status in Iraq is dubious (it was legalised at some point during Saddam's regime, banned in 2001, and is probably illegal now that the criminal code has reverted back pre-Saddam.))

Zillah

Saddam legalised homosexuality...?

I suddenly prefer him to Bush...




(Only kidding!!!! I always prefered him to Bush...)

rsynnott

Zillah wrote:

Saddam legalised homosexuality...?

I suddenly prefer him to Bush...

Seems odd, all right. I think it was just a case of there being no law specifically against it (as in pre-Nazi Germany and other places).

dictatorcat

Iraq was a secular state before the invasion, hence no religious influence over it's laws.

rsynnott

dictatorcat wrote:

Iraq was a secular state before the invasion, hence no religious influence over it's laws.

Yes, this is true, and Saddam was viewed by most Islamic states as being offensively secular. That said, there's no particular reason he should be tolerant

snickerpuss

"6. Parents can help prevent homosexuality in their children. Clinical psychologist Joseph Nicolosi, Ph.D., author of Preventing Homosexuality: A Parent’s Guide, says: “The most important message I can offer to you is that there is no such thing as a ‘gay child’ or a ‘gay teen.’ [But] left untreated, studies show these boys have a 75 percent chance of becoming homosexual or bisexual.”


Untreated?? That is frightening.

Shabadu

:mad:

It's bullshít like this that makes me feel like looking into home-schooling for my son. I know it's an American organisation, but I guarantee there are just as many loonies in the Irish schooling system. I knew one boy in a well-known Dublin secondary school who was told to 'stop being such a fag' by his P.E. teacher several times.

r3boot

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

No sorry what I meant was the idea that there is a way of "reversing" Homosexuality using drugs or "theraphy", these efforts are mainly American based. In the Middle-East they simply kill you there is no attempt at "curing" you.

only in iran and saudia arabia.... oh and if you're bi you might be able to get away with it .......


I can't get how people can classify being gay as a disease ..... bunch of f****ing retards

Boston

Shabadu wrote:

:mad:

It's bullshít like this that makes me feel like looking into home-schooling for my son. I know it's an American organisation, but I guarantee there are just as many loonies in the Irish schooling system. I knew one boy in a well-known Dublin secondary school who was told to 'stop being such a fag' by his P.E. teacher several times.

It can go the other way as well. I had one teacher who was very PC and very preachy about it to. Tried to make the lads feel bad cause they didn't give a damn about this kids who owas ment to be gay in our school that ran away to england. I think it resulted in allot of resentment tbh.

Shabadu

LiouVille wrote:

It can go the other way as well. I had one teacher who was very PC and very preachy about it to. Tried to make the lads feel bad cause they didn't give a damn about this kids who owas ment to be gay in our school that ran away to england. I think it resulted in allot of resentment tbh.

That's also a point. A large problem in schools is the notion that by being gay, you're different, whether it's meant in a positive or negative fashion.

I just wish people wouldn't think of sexuality as a big deal; apart from deciding their own, of course.

PinkStar

Wow I wanna laugh at the page but it's just a little too creepy

click here

It gets creepier . . .

http://www.angrypotato.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3251

They're coming - TO DUBLIN.


*dun-Dun-DUNNNN*

bluefin

maybe yes
but do have a look on his/her behavior and you can find out
or hire a detective
as simple as that
what do u think?

Shabadu

/me waves goodbye to bluefin

Annasopra

The original link no longer works

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2005/09/09/focus-on-the-family-chang_n_7111.html

reversed

Stark wrote:

Uhm, I think that might be getting mixed up with "A Clockwork orange" there...

No, those exists. They have such "correction" facilities. Check for "aversiontherapy" on the net,
like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aversion_therapy.
They do this to children, electro shocks and stuff...

Article, where a 8 year old "touched" girls in school
http://www.freep.com/news/locmac/eboy21_20031121.htm

A brother had contact with his younger brother
http://www.salon.com/feb97/molested970228.html

There was also case, two or three years ago, where a six year old boy was arrested because he helped his sister to pee.

BODY PLEASURE AND THE ORIGINS OF VIOLENCE
http://www.violence.de/prescott/bulletin/article.html

Note: I have those links from an article in German. I'm sorry, but unfortunately, there's no English version.

And for this Onion article... if you wouldn't have pointed out this again...
There's not so much, what I won't believe could happen over there anymore...




Take care,
R

Stark

Woah, so much for "thinking of children".

rsynnott

Is this the people? : http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Tennessee_closes_down_Christian_%22ex-gay_camp%22_for_treating_mental_illness_without_a_license

carbonkid

The whole idea of been able to turn somones sexuality is such a load of crap and wishful hoping from parents who have the real issues to deal with!!!

Lucky these people who believe this are a minority...i blame it on a bad mix of
hyped-up religious beliefs and day-time american chat-shows :P

Hmm_Messiah

it is a pity they don't worry about
"is my child becoming
materialistic xenophobic bigoted prejudiced elitist discriminatory brainless reactionary"