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A *insert piece of equipment* for life, what does this really mean?

  • 10-08-2005 1:53pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭


    I was just thinking, when someone says "that's a guitar for life" is that really a good reason to spend soooo much on something? Is it meant to mean you'll never have to buy another instrument, amp or whatever type of gear it may be or does it just mean you'll never sell it?

    I certainly don't think that at my age I can reassure anyone that spending a large amount of money on a piece of musical equipment is going to mean I will never feel like/need to replace it. Is it something we say to persuade people that spending all this money is justified or have any of you bought a guitar or whatever it might be and genuinely decided that's it?

    I ask this because I just got a quote of €1583 for a Matamp, certainly will be the most expensive piece of gear I'll ever have purchased and I don't see why I'd buy another amp, but how do I know? I've got another 60 years on the planet for god sake. Infact another thing do people even have to bother justifying buying such equipment if they have the money and love their instrument?


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I think it's meant to suggest that a guitar is of that good a quality that it'll last you a life time, if well looked after. So instead of buying a cheap guitar and it possibly breaking, the expensive guitar will stand the test of time.

    And shouldn't this be in Instruments :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Nidge


    feylya wrote:
    I think it's meant to suggest that a guitar is of that good a quality that it'll last you a life time, if well looked after. So instead of buying a cheap guitar and it possibly breaking, the expensive guitar will stand the test of time.

    And shouldn't this be in Instruments :p


    Damn, sorry, is it possible to move it there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Yeah, it usually means that it'll last a lifetime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Nidge


    Yeah, it usually means that it'll last a lifetime.

    Yeah I suppose, well if I put it in the context of my situation, I have a Fender Twin but it's just not portable and that's potentially an amp for life. But instead I am getting something an awful lot dearer and I won't be able to try it out before I get it and then I could say the same thing about it, an amp for life, the difference being it's better made and more portable. Basically I'm just wondering if anyone can genuinely say there is a hefty piece of equipment they aren't going to replace or even buy another one of because it's that perfect. I doubt anyone can say that, so really we can't ever say "that's it" we're never buying "X" again.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I think you're getting confused with "for life" meaning that you'll never get any other gear again. It simply means that the gear you have "for life" will last you your lifetime. The problem is whether you'll last for it. Tastes change, gear is gotten rid of. Not because it was bad or it was "for life", you've just outgrown it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Quattroste


    I thought it was just a way of pursuading your wife that you won't need to buy another one in the near future! I mean I have 3 guitars for life, one of which has about a year left on its life before I upgrade!! :)

    What I would really consider the "for life" statement to be is that its a very good quality instrument or piece of equipment that will last a long time and that will do you through all stages of your playing ability and musical expression.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Shanannigan


    i think the longer you have said equipment, particularly a guitar, there´s a buzz about it, i mean, if you express yourself through a guitar, part of the energy of yer expression remains in the guitar... sorry for gettin all cosmic in this thread, but i think its true... Mick Christopher´s guitar gets passed around between a few musicians, i´ve seen Josh Ritter, and Mark Geary playing it, not to mention Glen Hansard, and there´s a certain energy present when that guitar is being played... dunno if any1 believes that but at the same time, you could express yerself through a pen aswell, and i dunno bout any1 else but i lose a pen every week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Quattroste


    Jasus man, your a bit of a wacko ;):D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Well, the "For life" statement was bandied around at me after I told that little girl I raped Santa's dead corpse. :o


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Well, the "For life" statement was bandied around at me after I told that little girl I raped Santa's dead corpse. :o

    Christ, I wish that was a joke :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    It's all about love man....

    I would KILL (i ain't kidding) for my guitars (both of which are "for life" of course), because i really really really love them!


    Get yourself a great strat and you'll understand ;)

    (when are fender going to start paying me for pimping them 24x7 ?)

    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Quattroste


    Santa's not dead, don't say things like that :mad:

    Fender eh! are they new? must give them a try...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    I told that little girl I raped Santa's dead corpse. :o

    :D:D

    Just read this properly now - ha - that's my man! Dude, you deserve your very own t-shirt (or something)!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Nidge


    Quattroste wrote:
    I thought it was just a way of pursuading your wife that you won't need to buy another one in the near future! I mean I have 3 guitars for life, one of which has about a year left on its life before I upgrade!! :)

    What I would really consider the "for life" statement to be is that its a very good quality instrument or piece of equipment that will last a long time and that will do you through all stages of your playing ability and musical expression.

    Yeah this is what I mean really, it's really a persuasive sentence said to a person who will try and make you feel guilty for buying something for alot of money. I mean the last thing I bought that was for life has been with me a year and yes my tastes have changed. But of course it still will last a life time, just I won't be there to see it do so ¬_¬.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Shanannigan


    cheers... i guess i fit right in here then...... i was smokin last night.... i always talk ****e for a day or two after a good smoke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Quattroste


    And some wonderful gear available in Cork too!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Ancient1 wrote:
    :D:D

    Just read this properly now - ha - that's my man! Dude, you deserve your very own t-shirt (or something)!

    Yeah, I'm sorry... Had to be said.

    At least I didn't make fun of a thread that has "Insert a piece of equipment" in the title.



    ...or DID I!? :D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    It's too tempting to edit the thread title :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Shanannigan


    i trust yer talkin bout guitar gear quattro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭kennier


    Ancient1 wrote:
    I would KILL (i ain't kidding) for my guitars (both of which are "for life" of course), because i really really really love them!

    What if your son/daughter/brother/sister is playing in their school battle of the bands and their axe got knackered? Would you let him/her use your (other) pride & joy?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭DiamondJQuimby


    kennier wrote:
    What if your son/daughter/brother/sister is playing in their school battle of the bands and their axe got knackered? Would you let him/her use your (other) pride & joy?


    Not a f**&in chance they can go and play the triangle at the back like I did at school because the school was too poor to afford a guitar for the music class


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭kennier


    Not a f**&in chance they can go and play the triangle at the back like I did at school because the school was too poor to afford a guitar for the music class

    Class!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    What if your son/daughter/brother/sister is playing in their school battle of the bands and their axe got knackered? Would you let him/her use your (other) pride & joy?

    What Quimby said - they can play the triangle.

    Damn that's funny........"play the triangle". :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Quattroste


    i trust yer talkin bout guitar gear quattro
    eh!..... sure..... yeah thats it, guitar gear :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭DiamondJQuimby


    If I had have known I probably would have taken it a bit more seriously ;)

    James Blades in the Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians writes that "the triangle is by no means a simple instrument to play". In the hands of an expert it can be a surprisingly subtle and expressive instrument.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭magpie


    Mick Christopher´s guitar gets passed around between a few musicians, i´ve seen Josh Ritter, and Mark Geary playing it, not to mention Glen Hansard

    ****, one and all. Actually, Geary's alright, but the other two....

    Also, Mic Christopher wasn't Hendrix FFS, he was a mildly talented singer/songwriter who's now being deified as it suits the purposes of the Frames/ Josh Ritter (I'm sure that must be rhyming slang) axis of evil to be associated with a dead 'genius'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Shanannigan


    Not a f**&in chance they can go and play the triangle at the back like I did at school because the school was too poor to afford a guitar for the music class

    wasn´t it jimmy page that said the best thing about the guitar was that they didn´t teach it in school?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭DiamondJQuimby


    wasn´t it jimmy page that said the best thing about the guitar was that they didn´t teach it in school?


    I'd have to agree with Jimmy there, If I had learned to play Guitar from my music teacher I would probably never look at it again.


    Wicked B!*ch
    cute though :confused:

    Disturbing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Shanannigan


    well he´s living testament to the best reason guitar wasn´t taught in skool


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Johnny Storm


    Quattroste wrote:
    I thought it was just a way of pursuading your wife that you won't need to buy another one in the near future! ...QUOTE]

    LOL - I think you're correct ! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭curliq


    yeh quattroste's got it in one there, methinks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Shanannigan


    again he hits the nail on the head


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