graffiti

briano.de.rhino

yo.i been asked to graffiti at least 6 mdf wooden screens in work for the kids.im an artist but never used graffiti before.so i need to know what paint to get and nozzles for specific lines and where to get it.and techniques etc.im really in the dark about it and completely outside the scene.any help would be geatly appreciated.

cheers,
briano.

CuLT

No idea what possessed you to post this in Anime/Manga, moved to Arts/Anim/Photo (seems appropriate, though Gardening / DIY might prove useful).

FX Meister

All City in Temple Bar for all your paint. No offence but it will look terrible. I've never seen any artist that tried to pull off graffiti and make it look good. Are you getting paid much? Could you sub contract?

John R

FX Meister wrote:

All City in Temple Bar for all your paint. No offence but it will look terrible.

It's graffiti, of course it'll look terrible.

FX Meister

Yeah of course, I should have known. Well informed reply, now go back to watching Jerry Springer.

teckone2005

if you go into all city in temple bar they can help you out what are you plannin on doing i can give you a hand if youd like

teckone2005

if you pm me ill give you my email adress ill be in all city today

briano.de.rhino

thanks a million lads.i wouldnt be allowed to get anybody in under any circumstances.im not gettin paid.instead of bringing the guys swimming im doing art for a few weeks and any time over my hours will be given in extra holidays.im just glad to be expanding my boundaries somewhat.im painting half of them and might spraypaint the other half, i'll see.thanks for the help.

briano.

FX Meister

Make sure you post your work. I'd like to see the results.

lostexpectation

just help the kids to do it, themselves? then no harm done...

you could try using stencils? still a form of grafitti

rymus

to the graffiti naysayers... the above is graffiti and I think it looks good...

Klimseven

eh...much better graffiti:

rymus

Jeez.. I didnt realise it was a competition.. I'll just get my camera and head out...

If were in nitpicking mode I've got one; Those pics need more contrast.

Klimseven

eh...they're not my photos, it's mostly American stuff, except for Bates, who's Danish. You won't find any graffiti anywhere near the standard of those pieces, in cork...good luck with that. I just don't think the fliks you posted are the best example of graf...that dragon character is s hit...

rymus

eh... I didnt ask if they were your photos
eh... Im not looking for graffiti in Cork, the photos I posted werent even taken in Cork.
eh... I was expressing my opinion, does that offend you in some way?

Klimseven

no, express away, express away...

zinc

I dont think most graf writers would be looking for much money at all if you say heres the supplies and a legal place to paint, I mean they risk a lot for no pay, I dont think money is a consideration at all.

Oh and All City is a grand place, just ask about what kind of caps you may need etc. but to be honest its quite hard to just start doing graffiti, I mean V. hard, even gaining some can control ought to take you quite a bit of time.

Anyway good luck.

And nice pics.

FX Meister

That's a common misconception. Why should one artist get paid next to nothing just because his art has a bit more "street cred"?

briano.de.rhino

i will post it up/i painted one board already.went to all city and got some stuff.been tryin local disused walls around the place and even the thinnest cap seems really fat.do u hold the can real close maybe for a thin line?do u hqv to be fast lines so as not to drip paint.?what about blending?this is probably a stupid question but u know on wd40 it has a straw attached?cuold that get any effect?a thin line maybe.?what about sharp right angle edges?
its funny to hear all the nefgativity on here.just cos someone replies somethin.
ok i appreciate ur responses lads,
ur fabvourite graffiti noob.

briano.

FX Meister

Hold it close for a thin, clean line. Too slow and it drips, some paint is thicker than others, depends on the colour.

briano.de.rhino

Alright, I know I promised to post the pics about a year or two ago when I painted them but better late than never.I havent spraypainted in ages, I only really did it for bout 6 months or so back when I posted this thread originally. THE GUY IN ALLCITY WAS GREAT, he lent me a dvd of this guy painting in L.A. and it improved my blending and line-control 100%.Then I just practised on the walls in work. Hope you like. Its not bad for a noob painter who never spraypainted before eh tech one?

Ricky91t

Is this a record for pulling up an old thread on boards!:o
Haha anyway grafitti looks very good

well done

briano.de.rhino

Haha, u know the way something is annoying you but you cant name it. Its a promise that you've forgotten. Like being asleep and the doorbell is ringing so its ringing in your dreams too but you cnat wake up.......and them you answer the door and its you at the threshold. Always knew I'd get round to posten the pics up like I promised.

You Take nice pics Ricky, especially for someone so young. Trust me, yu will be 20 in the blink of an eye abd then 24....then 28 like me. Keep honing your craft and you will be of use to someone and can make a living out of it. College early is the key.Good luck.

owlwink

Picture competitions seem pointless. In the end it all boils down to a matter of taste.

Ricky91t

briano.de.rhino wrote: »

Haha, u know the way something is annoying you but you cant name it. Its a promise that you've forgotten. Like being asleep and the doorbell is ringing so its ringing in your dreams too but you cnat wake up.......and them you answer the door and its you at the threshold. Always knew I'd get round to posten the pics up like I promised.

You Take nice pics Ricky, especially for someone so young. Trust me, yu will be 20 in the blink of an eye abd then 24....then 28 like me. Keep honing your craft and you will be of use to someone and can make a living out of it. College early is the key.Good luck.

Thanks..
Yeah i know what you mean if i said if post something it would annoy me in the back of my head till i post it

Good man for keeping your word

RCNPhotos

The tetchy types on this board will flip when they see this thread on here I think.

But aside from that, the first bit, the chemical bros graffiti was my favorite

Eirebear

This is a bizzare little thread.

Graffiti intrigus me though, im not entirely sure what possesses people to do it....but some of it looks great, and from a photography point of view, id love to find a way of showcasing good graffiti that wasnt just a picture of a picture.

I really like the Sumo wrestler one BTW

briano.de.rhino

It was actually meant to be Daft Punk, not Chemical Bros. but close.
From my brief flirtation with graffiti [I try paint oils mostly when I paint at all] I found it to be the most free art form. Free of the usual rules. Feels like pure expression. Especially if you do it illegally. When someone paints on a wall, they really want people to see it and dig it and they know someone else will paint over it soon and ruin their piece but they do it anyway. And then you have egomaniacle guys scribbling their names in every corner in the ugliest of fashions.I used to find it repulsive but not anymore. They r getting something out of themselves by tagging which means they r expressing which means they arent keeping things in and getting destructive so I like it. That might sound a bit poncy...and it is. Just think, if it was legal, you would see beautiful pics everywhere, no lookin over ur shoulder on a darrk night.you could take ur time and make it look good...and I imagine it would get rid of a lot of "bad" graffiti as in "jimmy woz ere 08". I think the art form would naturally self regulate. when u treat people as adults, I imagine they behave like so.

YogiBear

Proper graffiti can look great and really brighten up and add colour to old buildings or even streets. Barcelona is a great example, I have a great photo of one I loved over there, I don't have a scanner though so can't upload it, it was taken a few years ago. Granted I've never really seen many good ones in Ireland... I wish I could paint! There's a lot of marketing adverts that are eyes sores.. why aren't they illegal?????

RCNPhotos

Why in the name of god did I say Chemical Brothers???

owlwink

YogiBear wrote: »

Proper graffiti can look great and really brighten up and add colour to old buildings or even streets. Barcelona is a great example, I have a great photo of one I loved over there, I don't have a scanner though so can't upload it, it was taken a few years ago. Granted I've never really seen many good ones in Ireland... I wish I could paint! There's a lot of marketing adverts that are eyes sores.. why aren't they illegal?????

I agree. Check out www.hendersonfour.blogspot.com

Trying to meet subverting needs

IanCurtis

As an art lover, I despise the essence of graffiti.

It is the equivalent of someone blaring his choice of music for all to hear.

Use a canvas, use a studio, use the wall of your living room, but there is never a reason to subject the public to your self-expression, no matter how good it is.

There seems to be some work in Portobello, which is really good, but looks as if it's commissioned - it's far too time consuming to be common-as-muck graffiti.

If you're not good enough to do it legally, you're not good enough.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

owlwink wrote: »

I agree. Check out www.hendersonfour.blogspot.com

Trying to meet subverting needs

We have subverting needs...?

Kold

Klimseven wrote: »

You won't find any graffiti anywhere near the standard of those pieces, in cork.

You haven't heard of Conor Harrington?

melekalikimaka

look up banksy hes great

Kold

Every grafitti thread descends into a Banksy picfest ^_^

YogiBear

Banksy the great!! Bringing it back to "common as muck" graffiti.. some youngster scribbled something or other on my ex-boyfriend's side-of-house wall... I'd like to send out a special thank you to them for annoying him no end!!

briano.de.rhino

It should be put to vote I think. see if the majority of the population would like street-art legalised.Then there would be no need to be "good enough" to get commisions. Graffiti is an immediate and intrinsic way for art to become a part of our everyday lives, instead of something enjoyed in one narrow way i.e. sipping white wine in a gallery[I'm being facetious] Y not see art on a wall as you get the train,8am,to work and enjoy it and think about it and at lunch time sittin in the park and theres a mural across the way and it pleases you. And if you dont like it, just dont look. Its no more ugly than that grey wall it superceded. Or else we could enjoy it at specific times in specific mind frames. If art was freer, we might even evolve faster, when you look at art you use th right side of the brain I think which gives ur left side a break. We as humans need to loosen up I think.Haha.Mind you I see the other point of view. I hate loud music from other people, but I dont find visual lines on a wall[of which most of the ugliness on our streets is corporate slogans or bad architecture] not as intrusive as sound waves which can really disturb peace of mind.

YogiBear

A street art exam should be passed, to make sure that we get high quality graffiti! :cool: (said she unable to draw a straight line)

Makaveli

IanCurtis wrote: »

If you're not good enough to do it legally, you're not good enough.

Or possibly you don't want to incriminate yourself by doing a legal piece and people realising who you are and what illegal pieces you've done.

Or maybe you just have no interest in doing legal pieces, which may have to conform to a certain theme/concept.

Plenty of people are "good enough" to do it legally.

I don't write.

Mellor

Kold wrote: »

Every grafitti thread descends into a Banksy picfest ^_^

For good reason I suppose

Klimseven

Kold wrote:

You haven't heard of Conor Harrington?

Of course. But he doesn't do graffiti, he does portraits with spraypaint...which still don't come anywhere near the level of a Bates piece.

Besides, he's living in the UK now; doing most of his stuff on canvas.

CianRyan

FX Meister wrote: »

Yeah of course, I should have known. Well informed reply, now go back to watching Jerry Springer.

+1


and yeah, all city is the only place for it man!

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elven

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