I HATE potential workmate!! >:(

tk123

My supervisor has decided to get somebody down to our IT dept to be trained up a few hours a week. I can't stand this guy because in the past he's tried to fix stuff and just fooked it up creating a lot of work for me(I've been supporting 600 peeps on my own since March nd only got a helper in the last month) I also find him very rude/forward, immature and just a pain in the ass and everybody else in the place thinks the same so I think he would be a serious liability. I've told my supervisor that I don't like this guy and I think it's a bad move but he's telling me I have to be professional since this guy will be working under me. I don't know what to do!?! Should I have a say in who's on my team!?!? I was supposed to have input into the interviews but my supervisor didn't involve me at all...I would rather leave than work with this guy but I like my job!!

ToxicPaddy

not really a lot you can do to stop him joining your dept to be honest...

But since he will be your junior you can Im sure you can use that to your
advantage..

If he's that much of a pain, it might be an idea pulling him aside and laying
down a few ground rules as he is afterall coming into your dept and if he's
gonna make more work for you then you will need to put him in his place fast
and sort his attitude problems out

What I would do is keep account of his actions, like make notes of any
systems he attempts to fix and makes them worse.. I know he's learning but
he's gonna have to get the basics first and offer to show him, if he refuses
then so be it.. and make sure he regrets it..

Keep us posted..

Tox

tk123

Thanks for the reply! I'm stressed thinking abt it!! I was talking to my other workmates in a diff dept or IT(we all have the same boss) and they said I should go straight to the boss and tell him that I don't want to work with this guy. We had a guy before who was breaking stuff and I told the boss - he said he was glad that I stood up and said it etc but I feel like i'm being a trouble maker or something...

Lump

Well he's there to be trained.... train him, and if he isn't any good, advise your boss that he needs more training. I'm gald people don't have the attitude you have where I work. I nearly took BBC off air one night, and I was told "It's only Television, don't worry"

I pity the guy coming down to work with you, you sound like a terrible to train under/work with.

John q

tk123

I have a trainee whos gone on hols and we get on like a house on fire so I don't think I'm that bad?! Its jst that I don't like this guy - I know I sound terrible!

MisterAnarchy

I feel sorry for you M8
I was in exactly the same scenario 3 years ago and it ended in me losing my job.

tk123

MisterAnarchy wrote:

I feel sorry for you M8
I was in exactly the same scenario 3 years ago and it ended in me losing my job.

Really? See we had a guy before who wasn't getting on with anybody and basicially flipping out at all of is all the time he was made redundant. Then we had a guy who was clueless and I had to say he was crap so he wasn't kept on(he was on probabtion) and the last person didn't get on with our supervisor and ended up leaving - i'd side with the supervisor here because i felt this person was really unreasonable. I then got a 5k raise and the place has been really relaxed since they left because everybody has been getting on and my newbie is really quick to learn stuff etc so I haven't been killing myself trying to get everything done. People see this other guy and complain to me - "wtf are u doing hiring him" etc etc and I don't want to hear that after all the work i've done to get us where we are...

Jumpy

Lump wrote:

Well he's there to be trained.... train him, and if he isn't any good, advise your boss that he needs more training. I'm gald people don't have the attitude you have where I work. I nearly took BBC off air one night, and I was told "It's only Television, don't worry"

I pity the guy coming down to work with you, you sound like a terrible to train under/work with.

John q

^ This.

*mind boggles*

Then you certainly wouldnt be happy with me training you. You have to have a serious attitude to work and not be an immature liability.
I agree with the work side of things - Train him...no good then pass it on to the manager, but if he has a bad attitude as well, he shouldnt be allowed in a position where he can cause problems.
Obviously people with less experience are going to make mistakes, thats easily forgivable, and you get to hassle them in good fun for ages afterwards.

However ...

I also find him very rude/forward, immature and just a pain in the ass

This I wouldnt accept.

IT Administration of any form requires a good people attitude.

zAbbo

You sound like a right asshole, take some bloddy responsibilty and make an effort.

Do you run whinging to the boss often ?

secret_squirrel

tk123 wrote:

Its jst that I don't like this guy - I know I sound terrible!

I think you have taken a personal dislike to this guy and are then finding fault with him to justify it. You are a fine one to talk about acting mature and professional since right now you are doing neither.

You have already blown your best chance of getting rid of him by making it sound personal if you have spoken to your boss in a similar way to your post here.

You need to shut up and put up with him. Do your best to train him - and then make a recommendation on whether to keep him based on his skills & attitude - not your personal feelings. Cop on.

If anything you should be looking on this as an oppurtunity to get your other newbie to get some experience in training the new newbie. Good supervisors develop their staff - bad ones whine about them.

Einstein

Eh..me thinks people are being a tad harsh tbh.
If tk123 was being told that they would have an input into the people the people that would be working under her, she has a right to be p!ssed off, when it doesn't end up happening. But if the guy coming down is a pillock, nothing she says will change that.

I too work in IT support and to have a complete numpty working in the team is nothing but a pain in the ass as they become such a liability and you end up having to spend more time watching over them than doing your own work.

tk123

Well the guy was down the other day and I was as polite and friendly to him as possible to give him a chance to prove himself etc but he got bored with the jobs I asked him to do(which I had been doing myself for hours all morning!!) and went back to his own dept - after taking 3 breaks and going missing for half an hour in the space of 2 and a half hours and leaving the work I had for him unfinished!! When he came down to ask what I had to do for him I was on the phone and he went for a smoke!!! My boss is pissed off now because he wanted to give the guy a chance even thou every supervisor he's had just has bad things to say about him....

ando

Right so if he isnt pulling his weight and isnt even trying then its time to get rid of him. Not liking him has nothing to do with it

LundiMardi

tk123 wrote:

Well the guy was down the other day and I was as polite and friendly to him as possible to give him a chance to prove himself etc but he got bored with the jobs I asked him to do(which I had been doing myself for hours all morning!!) and went back to his own dept - after taking 3 breaks and going missing for half an hour in the space of 2 and a half hours and leaving the work I had for him unfinished!! When he came down to ask what I had to do for him I was on the phone and he went for a smoke!!! My boss is pissed off now because he wanted to give the guy a chance even thou every supervisor he's had just has bad things to say about him....

what's the problem, you're his boss not his best friend. Call him aside and set him straight!

the_syco

I also find him very rude/forward, immature and just a pain in the ass

He breaks stuff, is rude, immature, and doesn't do the sh|t you tell him to do? Take him aside, and tell him that its his job, if he doesn't like it, he can quit.

Any IT job has lots of "boring" stuff, but its part of the job. If he can't do any of the advanced stuff, give him a manual for it, and put him back doing basic stuff. When you thinks he's ready test him on the subject, and go from there.

HashSlinging

bazH wrote:

You sound like a right asshole, take some bloddy responsibilty and make an effort.

Do you run whinging to the boss often ?

^^^ im with you, she sounds like a whinge cow from hell!!!! not the type of person you'd like working on your helpdesk thats for sure... She sounds very threatened!! Maybe her boss has plans to replace her.

tk123

Thanks a lot!! It's ok anyhoos - he refused to put some stuff away other day and has been evicted!!

tk123

HashSlinging wrote:

^^^ im with you, she sounds like a whinge cow from hell!!!! not the type of person you'd like working on your helpdesk thats for sure... She sounds very threatened!! Maybe her boss has plans to replace her.

Thanks a lot!! It's ok anyhoos - he refused to put some stuff away other day and has been evicted!!

Agent Smith

i work in retail, and was in the same situation,

where i work, i take pride in my job, costs nothing to be nice and polite to customers, people who buy 1000's of euro worth of products every day.
to cut to the chase, they pay your wages.

i was working until sunday, with someone, who

1. never appeared in on time,
2. took sporadic days off. ( went to london, and failed to tell me or anyone in the company)
3. nosed in on peoples private lives.
4. asked the most inappropriate questions at the worst time E.G ( are you coming out for a smoke?, when i'm explaining the merits of a certain product over another product, both of which cost over a 1000 euro).

At the start, i thought, " he's new"

it just got beyond a joke, and thank god he left.

i'm glad your happy he's gone, but professinal issues aside, refusing to work with someone because " you dont like them" is childish, IMO.

tk123

Ah but I didn't refuse to work with him - i just knew he was a muppet :P

CV Specialist

People management can be a difficult skill to acquire. In many cases, a one-on-one conversation, quiet but direct, is all that is required to soothe seemingly-impossible dissonances in rapport. In others, you may need to bring your concerns to the attention of senior management for further review and consultation.

In both cases, communication - not recrimination - is the key to successful issue resolution.

seamus

Sometimes it can be worse if you're not someone's boss, but you're senior to them, so they treat you like their boss. Going into your own boss and telling him "Man, you hired a right moron there" isn't the easiest thing in the world