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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Wowza, those are cheap! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    As much as I deride Behringer I do think I will have to order one of the delay pedals


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Aside from the cheapness, I'm holding on for a tubescreamer, or one of those decimator pedals I've heard so much about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    I'm hopefully getting a new overdrive pedal made for my guitar and using my RAT for the bass.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Much and all as I know this is bull****

    BEHRINGER DIGITAL DELAY DD100 Digital Stereo Delay/EchoEffects Pedal, Ultimate digital delay effects pedal comparable to state-of-the-art studio processors

    I still might have to check that piece of crap out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    Aside from the cheapness, I'm holding on for a tubescreamer, or one of those decimator pedals I've heard so much about.

    Personally i wouldn't bother with Behringer - i'd hold out for the Decimator, it's supposed to be absolutely awesome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Ancient1 wrote:
    Personally i wouldn't bother with Behringer - i'd hold out for the Decimator, it's supposed to be absolutely awesome.

    As you've mentioned, could be great to clean up the old tone a bit. But right now I'm really looking to nab myself one of those TS808's I've heard so much about. Any thoughts on those?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    Apparently the circuit chip is made to the exact same spec as the vintage TS808 (and 9) so yes, i'd definitely consider that one.

    As for the Decimator, from what i've read, the clarity and decay is supposed to be unprecedented (for a non-rack unit).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    They're really used to boost your signal rather than be the sole provider of crunch. You can get much higher gain amps these days which makes them kind of redundant IMO. An extra thing to go wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Doctor J wrote:
    They're really used to boost your signal rather than be the sole provider of crunch. You can get much higher gain amps these days which makes them kind of redundant IMO. An extra thing to go wrong.

    Aye, but I want to try out something to boost the gain channel on the Nomad, as opposed to the Metalzone providing the distortion on the clean channel, you dig?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    I don't think you can go wrong there, whatever you use the TS808 for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Ancient1 wrote:
    I don't think you can go wrong there, whatever you use the TS808 for.

    Ok, I'll use it as soap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    :D

    Just remember to plug it in before you use it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Aye, but I want to try out something to boost the gain channel on the Nomad, as opposed to the Metalzone providing the distortion on the clean channel, you dig?

    Yup. Randy Rhoads used to use an OD1 to perform a similar function.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Doctor J wrote:
    Yup. Randy Rhoads used to use an OD1 to perform a similar function.

    Think it'll work for me?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Think it'll work for me?

    Haven't heard the Nomad so can't really say. It'll provide a boost for sure but whether it'll dirty up the sound in the right way is too hard to call without just going for it. Chris usually has a tube screamer or two to hand. Occasionally he gets ones with the original sought after chip which go for premium dollar ($150-200).

    It's something I've never looked into personally, I like to be on the overdriven side of distortion, rather than full face ripping off gain :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Doctor J wrote:
    It's something I've never looked into personally, I like to be on the overdriven side of distortion, rather than full face ripping off gain :)

    I'm all about the face ripping though! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    I know :p

    I recored a tune a few years back with three distortion pedals going into the gain channel of a JC120 with Vibrato turned on for the lead. Was really wierd, like a reverse delay, I must mp3 it and stick it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭SirLemonhead


    Haha it's still so obvious that those pedals are based on the Boss designs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭jcoote


    good god the shippings more than the pedal:eek: i had a ts-9 and i used it for exactly that the boost on the gain channel...worked really well although i did prefer the clean-mt2-ge7 method but tube screamer is the business...post that m3 doc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,990 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    I'm buy a crap load of pedals soon, might throw in this http://www.thomann.de/thoiw6_artikel-183498.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭jcoote


    that looks really tempting i must say why the hell wouldn't u... great idea for effects noobs who just wanna try **** out... pedals for the price of a boss one hell yeah


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    The first six links in my first post are ones I want. Basically all the effects a beginner would need for €100 or so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Giblet wrote:
    I'm buy a crap load of pedals soon, might throw in this http://www.thomann.de/thoiw6_artikel-183498.html

    Hmm... Bit of chorus for when I'm playing Death songs? I think I might!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    jcoote wrote:
    post that m3 doc

    OK, here's the solo bit. This is my trusty old Aria Pro II into an OD1, DS1, DOD FX59 "Thrashmaster" into the gain channel of a JC120 (with gain on full, of course) and the vibrato on too. I was in the control room recording this and was hearing things about a second after I played, which was quite odd with a wierd latency/reverse delay (very odd cos there was no effect like that in the loop, just tonnes of distortion). The whole thing was nuts, uncontrollable and I knew not to bother before the first note. Still, the first take was a keeper.

    For the masochists out there, here's the whole distorted mess. I think we had distortion on absolutly everything. There are four distorted bass tracks, two rhythm guitar tracks and the lead track, as well as Marto's distorted vocals.

    Don't ask :D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Wow. That's a lot of distortion. The riff is very Deftones-esque. I like :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    I was in a very dark place :p

    ****, this was recorded 11 years ago :eek:


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    11 years? That would have been when you were...*counts*... younger than me :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Heh heh heh, back then I had a vision ;)

    This was after Edible and just as Old Scratch was getting going. Marto played drums and sang on this (best drummer I've ever played with, he was in Old Scratch and Edible too) and I did the bassing and guitaring. It's in standard tuning too :D


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Standard? Fook meh :eek: What gear were you using on the riffs? Or has the memory started to fail :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    That is a lot of distortion altogether... Wow. My anus is rumbling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    I think it was just the Aria Pro II into the DOD pedal into the JC120, fairly straightforward. The feedback that fades in duting the solo happened naturally, I was just standing there waiting to come back in with the rhythm stuff. Two takes, different feedback pitch... nice :)

    The bass is the ESP into the DOD into a Trace 4x10 mic'd and DI'd. I think I recorded one track with the bridge pickup, then doubled it on the neck pickup. It's all chordal stuff. I think we were trying to make thick soupy audio sludge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    JC120s are a bunch of gee for good distorted tones though :(


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Audio sludge is what it is :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    It was great fun though. The look on the engineers face when I played that solo and said "THAT'S THE ONE!!!" or when we said we wanted to plug the vocal mic straight into the DS1 :D

    That'll learn 'em :p


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    You crazy kids!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    Doctor J wrote:
    It was great fun though. The look on the engineers face when I played that solo and said "THAT'S THE ONE!!!" or when we said we wanted to plug the vocal mic straight into the DS1 :D

    That'll learn 'em :p

    Sounds like my kind of recording session!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭jcoote


    good god doc thats mentalism...i like it although i am afraid of u now :(...'a bunch of gee' is the saying of the week...congrats doc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    jcoote wrote:
    'a bunch of gee' is the saying of the week...congrats doc

    :D

    Thank you, crudeness is a speciality of mine ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭jcoote


    Doctor J wrote:
    :D

    Thank you, crudeness is a speciality of mine ;)


    and way under-used in todays society...PCness my arse :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    Holy moly, you raped that JC120, Doc. :D

    Not bad - reminds me a bit of the The End Complete vibe. (Without Mr. Tardy sharing the love, of course).


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