Cork August 2005 - drinking what?

CorkFast2005

From what I gather the 'Culture' in Cork this year
seems to be just more uisce beatha.

You good people of Cork, though, have an opportunity
for quiet reflection on where we've come from and
where we're going to via a Public Fast for
74 hours and 47 minutes on Paana 6-9 August - the
length of time it took our american friends 'little
boy' and 'fat man' to vapourise 210,000 innocent
civilians in the name of peace 60 years ago, a
tradition carried on to today in the us/uk mission to
save the world NOT

Now's the time to detox!

In the process of giving our digestive systems a rest
from everything except pure uisce féin, and expressing
ourselves with grassroots creative culture, we might
raise the consciousness of other Corkonians and
2005 guests re the latest Shrub 'nucaleer' plans for
inner and outer space... :rolleyes:

>>read more>> http://www.billbegley.com/liz_masebo

CorkFast2005

are ye all dead or wot?

WAKE UP and smell the **** kant ye see there's no more coffee left!

rymus

CorkFast2005 wrote:

In the process of giving our digestive systems a rest
from everything except pure uisce féin,

I hope youre not proposing that we drink our own water... cos I only did that once.. and there was a substantial amount of money involved. Get thee gone hippy!

dahamsta

CorkFast2005 wrote:

grassroots creative culture

Rough translation: Crusties in attentance. Puke-o-rama.

adam

CorkFast2005

rymus - féin meaning 'only' or 'alone'

dahamsta - leave the crusties alone

rymus

err yeah.. of course.. I knew that all along.. *empties milk bottles of self-preserve down drain*

dudara

grassroots creative culture

What's this supposed to mean? I thought grassroots was a word practically owned by the GAA these days.

oh wait, I think that it means we'll all be making daisy chains

CorkFast2005

dudara wrote:

I think that it means we'll all be making daisy chains

and why not!


Hi Dudara - I'll save a nice daisy chain specially for you - don't forget to drop around and collect it!!

dudara

Living things tend to wilt and die very quickly around me, so I might just pass on that

damien

Grassroots or Astroturfing?

Were those buzzwords manually lobbed together or did you use some automating tool? Adam will be along shortly to mention "the long tail", I'm sure someone will also start talking about the MSM and new media formats as well as micro-content.

Amen.

dahamsta

damien.m wrote:

Adam will be along shortly to mention "the long tail"

I had to stop doing that Damien, people started to get the wrong idea.

adam

damien

Ah right, had same issue with my website

CorkFast2005

dudara wrote:

Living things tend to wilt and die very quickly around me, so I might just pass on that

I find that hard to believe dudara with your eye for a nice ancle

dudara

CorkFast2005 wrote:

I find that hard to believe dudara with your eye for a nice ancle

CorkFast2005

sorry I kant spell

dahamsta

What a cant.

CorkFast2005

CorkFast2005 wrote:

Now's the time to detox!

>>read more>> http://www.billbegley.com/liz_masebo

Have ye started the pre-detox yet?!

Raw veg etc.

HybridTech

Is culture being hijacked by crusties? What happened 60 years ago happened 60 years ago! Nothing to do with Cork!!! Remembrance is great and very respectable. Maximum respect!

What happened at the start of this month? And again towards the end? Have you forgotten already?

Are you all about raising the consciousness of Corkonians to be fellow anarchists?

If it wasn't for 'little boy' and 'fat man', as you call them, we'd all be speakin' German or Japanese, and not our own Corkonian feen and beaure language, that we've grown to love!

Cork 2005 is not about subversism and shouldn't be used for that purpose. Find another medium for you rantings!

By the way, I'm not in any way associated with Cork 2005. I just live here and I came across your rant and had to comment.

CorkFast2005

HybridTech wrote:

Is culture being hijacked...?

What happened 60 years ago ...Nothing to do with Cork!!!

What happened at the start of this month? And again towards the end? Have you forgotten already?

If it wasn't for 'little boy' and 'fat man', as you call them, we'd all be speakin' German or Japanese, and not our own Corkonian feen and beaure language, that we've grown to love!

Hy HybridTech

What is culture? Can it be hijacked?

Nothing to do with Cork?! When Chernobyl happened it affected areas as far away as Scotland

check out one of many reports:
http://dorset.ceh.ac.uk/River_Ecology/River_Systems/Chernobyl.htm

The cloud of radioactive debris released by the accident at Chernobyl’s reactor No. 4 spread a trail of contamination over large areas of the countries of the former Soviet Union (fSU) and parts of Western Europe. Today, 15 years after the accident, Chernobyl’s radioactive legacy still affects the lives of hundreds of thousands of people living in and around the contaminated zones. In joint work with teams from the fSU countries, scientists at CEH have found that some food products from the Chernobyl affected areas will remain contaminated well into the next century...

After a nuclear accident, ecosystems have a "self-cleaning" capacity: radiocaesium becomes immobilised in the soil so that it becomes less easily accumulated in the food chain. Before Chernobyl, most scientists believed that the soil immobilisation process was so strong that contamination of foodstuffs would be a relatively short-term problem. In the UK, Ministry of Agriculture (MAFF) restrictions on sale and slaughter of sheep were expected to last for only a few months after the accident. In some farms in Cumbria, Scotland and Wales, restrictions are still in place now, 15 years later.

Irish concerns in 1986:
http://www.oireachtas-debates.gov.ie/D/0366/D.0366.198605070051.html

but now the UK are planning more instead of decommissioning the ones already there:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/science/nature/3658802.stm
http://www.niauk.org/article_26.shtml


What happened at the start of this month is no more excusable that any other killing. To understand why it happened we must know about the history of British imperialism in the Middle-East.

http://www.globalecho.org/view_article.php?aid=4666
check out what Hitler's man said a while back - notice what's happening now...
"...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Hermann Goerring

http://www.globalecho.org/view_article.php?aid=4611


So we’ve been saved from the Nazi’s, have we, HybridTech?
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0307-22.htm


Use whatever terms you like HybridTech to describe your impression of me, but don't tell me I have no right to stand peacefully on the pavement in my own native Cork as a witness to peace and harmony in the world.

Yours in peace
Liz

HybridTech

Hy (sic) Liz,

What is culture?

shared beliefs and values of group: the beliefs, customs, practices, and social behavior of a particular nation or people
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?refid=1861601882

Can it be hijacked?

First: what is hijack?
take over (something) and use it for a different purpose.
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/hijack?view=uk

expressing ourselves with grassroots creative culture, we might
raise the consciousness of other Corkonians and
2005 guests

Yes is the answer! And you're not even from Cork!!!(Phone:00447866324773)
Chernobyl didn't happen 60 years ago
http://www.uic.com.au/nip22.htm
It happened 19 years ago.

To understand

To empathise/sympathise with the perpetrators???? Please!

we must know about the history of British imperialism in the Middle-East.

What the....? That was 57 years ago http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_mandate_end.php

don't tell me I have no right to stand peacefully on the pavement in my own native Cork

Did I?
My intention was to indicate that your post belonged in "Politics" board, not "Regions, Cork City",
hence my comment: Nothing to do with Cork!!! The propaganda that followed was just typical of Indymedia!!!!
http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=70817
Not happy that you had hijacked the forum AND Cork 2005, you then proceeded to goad people into replying:

COME ON - a bit a feedback wouldn't hurt - are ye all dead or wot?

Well, no we're not! We are very alive, proud of our city, our CULTURE, and if we wanted political
hijacking or discussion, I guess we'd look in the "Politics" forum!!!!!!!!! Wouldn't we?

Peacefully yours,

Jim

CorkFast2005

HybridTech wrote:

take over... use ... for a different purpose.

And you're not even from Cork!!!

To empathise/sympathise...

My intention was to indicate that your post belonged in "Politics" board, not "Regions, Cork City",

Not happy that you ... then proceeded to goad people into replying:


Peacefully yours,

Jim

Sorry Jim

I though the Cork City thread was for anyone who wanted to talk about anything that related to Cork City or what was happening there. I assumed if I was posting anything that did not relate to the thread the moderator would have let me know by now.

I'm from and of Cork all right - the fact that I live elsewhere is very connected to the culture of Irish people.

I used the word 'understand' to mean 'perceive (as in observe) the cause of' - under no circumstances 'to empathise or sympathise'.

I understand now you didn't mean I don't belong in Cork but that you think I should confine myself to another board. Am I to take it that you think peace is only to do with politics and nothing to do with culture?

I'm really sorry for that initial comment - my frustration was more to do with a lack of response from the City councillors than from here - please accept my apologies to all on this board.

There is a worldwide movement to encourage lord mayors around the world to sign an emergency campaign to ban nuclear weapons and I tried to draw the attention of Cork City Councillors to this (bearing in mind the 2005 thing). Even though Ireland has had a good record up to now in opposing the proliferation of nuclear weapons, there are no Irish mayoral signatures on the list of world mayors already signed up to the Mayor of Hiroshima's initiative.

My reference to 'grassroots creative culture' was meant as in carrying on an old Irish tradition of entertaining ourselves (while witnessing to peace) as opposed to being passive recipients of packaged entertainment put on for us to consume. Don't get me wrong - I have nothing against artists who earn a living from entertaining!

Once again - apologies to all on this board for my earlier sarcasm

CorkFast2005

Apologies to Sean Martin, former Lord Mayor of Cork - The list I was looking at up to now did not have any mention of Irish Mayors

http://www.pcf.city.hiroshima.jp/mayors/english/campaign/jointstatement.html#endorsers

I've just searched again now and found another link which includes SEAN MARTIN, the only Irish Mayor and former Lord Mayor of Cork, on the List of Mayors who have signed the Mayoral Statement as of 1 July 2005. Well done Sean Martin!!

http://www.pcf.city.hiroshima.jp/mayors/english/campaign/listmayoralstatement.html

Goes to show you can't believe everything you see or don't see on the internet...