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Coldplay - Copy Protected CD

  • 20-07-2005 9:08am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,684 ✭✭✭


    Not sure if I should post this here or on one of the music boards but I reckon the answer is most likely to come from someone in here.

    I got the new Coldplay CD - X&Y. I can't play it on my PC or in my car stereo - the two places where I listen to music the most. Its got some sort of copy-protection on it and tries to install some crappy drivers when I put the CD into the computer and plays the music in a bitrate that sounds like its about 4 kbps !
    Obviously I can't rip it to put onto my iPod either.

    I'd like to be able to play the music where I like - does anyone know of a CD/DVD player that will allow me read this in my PC.

    (I would return it if I bought it myself but I got it as a present.)

    I don't want this to turn into a 'music piracy' thread. I just want to play the CD !!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Try holding the shift key down when you put it into your PC. (if the software has not already installed)

    Failing that return the CD as unplayable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    I had the same problem with one of those CD's before, but surprisingly, a CD Ripper ripped all the tracks to high quality mp3 without any problems....

    Who cares if it's illegal, we paid good money for the damn thing...*

    *note I am talking about ripping the music you already and as a last resort ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭Sparky


    scargill wrote:
    Not sure if I should post this here or on one of the music boards but I reckon the answer is most likely to come from someone in here.

    I got the new Coldplay CD - X&Y. I can't play it on my PC or in my car stereo - the two places where I listen to music the most. Its got some sort of copy-protection on it and tries to install some crappy drivers when I put the CD into the computer and plays the music in a bitrate that sounds like its about 4 kbps !
    Obviously I can't rip it to put onto my iPod either.

    I'd like to be able to play the music where I like - does anyone know of a CD/DVD player that will allow me read this in my PC.

    (I would return it if I bought it myself but I got it as a present.)

    I don't want this to turn into a 'music piracy' thread. I just want to play the CD !!

    AFAIK theresa program called AnyDVD which removes copyprotection on all discs, so get there free trial off the website and copy the music to a cd to use, rather than getting the copyprotection crap when you always try to play the music.
    my sis got this aswell when she tried to play a placebo cd in her computer, it installs a program and plays it at a crap internet type steaming sound.

    PS. dont sell your copies, tis illegal;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,684 ✭✭✭scargill


    cheers - will try those suggestions later.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭MorningStar


    You can actually return the CD to the store and ask for a non-protected one due to playback problems. You can get around it on your PC but not on your car stereo. A lot of the CD protection was abandoned because people were intentionally buying the protected ones and then returning them and asking for a new one without protection. It's all for back up purposes of course.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 273 ✭✭philtaylor


    put the disk in your cdrw drive and just use the latest music match.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 273 ✭✭philtaylor


    If you havent installed the software , put the disk in your cdrw drive and just use the latest music match. If you want it in your car burn the tracks to your hard drive and then back on to a new disk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,977 ✭✭✭mp3guy


    rip it as an iso with CloneCD, then mount it with Daemon Tools and it should rip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 169 ✭✭Sgtshaft


    Have a look at this CDFreaks (THE place for copy protection discussion) Forum Thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Audiograbber (freeware) rips copy-protected CDs.
    http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net

    Small download too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Inspector Gadget


    Please bring back the CD. The more hassle record companies have from people returning "copy-protected" (sheesh) CDs, the less likely they'll be to use them.

    "Copy protected" CDs are (at best) an inconvenience and (at worst) an intentional attempt by record companies to cripple music so that people can't enjoy it as and when they please. If you've paid for the damn CD, you should be able to insert it into any device that can play CDs, and just play it. Period.

    Anyway, the kind of protection you're talking about seems to be the kind that writes corrupted sessions/TOCs/etc to the discs themselves, thereby not complying with the appropriate standard (Red Book, IIRC?) - I wonder if as a results these discs can even legally be called Audio CDs?

    Just my 2c...
    Gadget


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭kasintahan


    Exact Audio Copy is the connoisseurs choice (and it's totally free).

    www.exactaudiocopy.de


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭grumpytrousers


    Please bring back the CD. The more hassle record companies have from people returning "copy-protected" (sheesh) CDs, the less likely they'll be to use them.

    "Copy protected" CDs are (at best) an inconvenience and (at worst) an intentional attempt by record companies to cripple music so that people can't enjoy it as and when they please. If you've paid for the damn CD, you should be able to insert it into any device that can play CDs, and just play it. Period.

    Anyway, the kind of protection you're talking about seems to be the kind that writes corrupted sessions/TOCs/etc to the discs themselves, thereby not complying with the appropriate standard (Red Book, IIRC?) - I wonder if as a results these discs can even legally be called Audio CDs?

    Just my 2c...
    Gadget
    Funny you mention that about 'can you call them CD's' - they can't, and they don't. If you look back on older CD's, they all have on either the disc, the booklet or the jewel case the wee Compact Disc Digital Audio logo thing. Some discs have it more than once.

    You'll find that NO copy protected disc can use this logo because it DOESN'T comply with the standards as layed down by whoever...what they produce and sell is something that is meant to be compatible with most CD Players.

    I'd agree. Return the goods. They're not merchantable in that they're not suitable for the purposes for which they were offered for sale...


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    I had the same problem with one of those CD's before, but surprisingly, a CD Ripper ripped all the tracks to high quality mp3 without any problems....

    Who cares if it's illegal, we paid good money for the damn thing...*
    *note I am talking about ripping the music you already and as a last resort ;)


    But its not illegal its fair use, your own the CD and you wish to make a copy for your own use in a MP3 player
    Personally I'd bring back the CD and demand my money back as its defective imho

    Philips who helped invent CD bitched about companys adding copy protection to CD's awhile back as its breaks the standard

    I am VERY tempted to go into town confirm the above as fact and buy the CD and then bring it back demanding sa refund as I wasn't sold what I beleievd was a compact disc...hmmm
    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,684 ✭✭✭scargill


    Cabaal wrote:
    Personally I'd bring back the CD and demand my money back as its defective imho

    I am VERY tempted to go into town confirm the above as fact and buy the CD and then bring it back demanding sa refund as I wasn't sold what I beleievd was a compact disc...hmmm

    Cabaal - I would do this if it wasnt a present (bought on cdwow) - so its not really worth the hassle. I have returned another cd that was copy protected. I played the complete gobsh1te when i went back to the shop - just said it wouldn't play in the car stereo (and that I had no other way of playing it). I didn't make any stand about copy-protection or invalild CD format. I got another CD instead (not same band).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Goldstein


    I bought that album a few weeks ago but hadn't put it onto my mp3 player yet. Just tried it there. Put the CD in and nothing happened. Windows didn't recognise it as an audio (or any other type of) CD. Just kept saying "Please insert CD" or "No CD in drive" etc.

    So I took it out put it back in with shift held down this time and it recognised it as normal. Burned it using iTunes, listened to it, quality is perfect, no problems. Your version seems different though (trying to install drivers etc). The shift thing might be worth a lash anyway if you haven't tried it.

    Indignant march to music shop with receipt in hand averted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭Mutant_Fruit


    doesn't matter if you got it in CD wow. Bring it back to HMV or some such place. Say it was a present (which it was) and say it won't play back. The odds are they'll take it back and give you a non-copyprotected one (if they have em). If not, kick up a fuss.

    Every bit of fuss about copyprotection helps us (the consumer) get a fair deal. We want cd's that play in 100% of cd players, not 90%, or less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,604 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    got around some copy protection by getting the marker out and finding where the data and music tracks met and marked over the data track and volia a perfect cd. THat data track is on the outside.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    never noticed any copy protection on it myself.
    but then, i always disable autoplay with tweakui...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭Pongo


    Use i tunes. Have the album myslef, the copy protected version, tried to intsall that crap on the pc alright but just play it in i tunes and you can do whatever you want with it....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Adviser


    It's not illegal to copy cd's as long as you own the original. It's called a "Backup". Nice little loophole. Same applies to dvd's last time I checked....


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