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Setting up restricted XP username

  • 13-07-2005 6:05pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭


    I have XP pro and want to set up a second user account that is restricted to just certain things I allow.

    I would like to have quite a bit of control as to what can be used.

    Whats the best method and/or program to use to do this?

    Rgds


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭zuma


    This is pretty simple:

    Control Panel-User Accounts
    Under "Pick a task" select "Create a new account"
    Type the name...click next.
    Under "Pick an account type" select "limited"
    Click "create accoun" then!

    Pretty simple!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭chump


    Not really what I'm looking for zuma. I've done that, but
    I only want them to be able to run maybe 2 programs, say IE and Mozilla...

    I don't want them to have any access to programs I don't want, and only want them to have access to their own personal My Documents folder etc. etc...

    It seems fairly complicated :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭djmarkus


    I dont really know but i'll point you in the right direction, run gpedit.msc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭chump


    Looks like I have some reading up to do:

    Pasted from http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=515848

    There is, in fact, a simple canonical native Windows solution to your
    problem. I use it to set up Citrix thin terminals. And it uses all
    the tools that already there in Windows XP.

    1) Create two local users, an administrator (there by default, but
    you'll have to set the password and log in at least once) and the user
    you're going to have the IE desktop run under. I'll call that user
    "public" for the sake of brevity. Make public a Restricted User.

    2) Read up on Local Group Policies
    (http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/a/windows/2005/03/29/local_group_policy.html
    and http://www.theeldergeek.com/group_policy_for_windows_xp_prof.htm).
    Local Group Policy Objects allow you to lock down nearly every aspect
    of a Windows XP box. This includes the ability to remove access to
    the Task Manager, logging off, and various other ways of exiting the
    currently running application. All the settings are extensively
    documented within the Group Policy editor itself. There's an
    extensive section just on IE, which should help you.

    WARNING: DO NOT PLAY AROUND IN THE POLICY EDITOR UNTIL YOU ARE READY
    TO ROLL OUT THE DESKTOP - you'll see why in a minute.

    3) Specific things you can set in the Policy Editor (they're scattered
    all over the place): Autologon as the public user (may require some
    additional registry tweaks, see
    http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/780/ and
    http://www.chicagotech.net/winlogon.htm). This will automatically log
    in public when the machine boots, and if anyone manages to log out
    somehow, the system will log them right back in again.
    : Set iexplore.exe as the shell for public. Most of the ways to get
    out of an application are controlled by the Windows _shell_,
    explorer.exe, not the kernel or the application. Set IE as the shell
    for public and they won't get any of the application quitting options.
    Make sure you find and set the "auto restart shell" Policy Object -
    that way if someone kills the shell or crashes IE it restarts the same
    way explorer does when you kill it in the Task Manager. See
    http://blogs.msdn.com/embedded/archive/2005/03/30/403999.aspx
    : Disallow any executables running except for the ones you want.
    There's a Policy Object that allows black- and whitelists for
    processes. This will prevent people from running things from the
    shell (in this case, iexplore).

    I'm sure you can find lots more. The GPO documentation is great; the
    organization is not...

    You may also want to look at more traditional methods of securing the
    PC from network and file system access, using the various checklists:
    http://labmice.techtarget.com/articles/winxpsecuritychecklist.htm
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/prodtech/windowsxp/secwinxp/default.mspx

    Since you're going to save yourself a lot of time with the GPO editor,
    in lieu of screwing around with other OSes and software you don't
    need, you can take some time to investigate the IEAK, which will let
    you customize the dickens out of IE, including enforcing the
    full-screen or "kiosk" mode.
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/ie/ieak/default.mspx

    4) Before you apply the Local Group Policy, READ THIS:
    http://www.theeldergeek.com/gp07.htm
    Outside of an Active Directory environment, any settings you put in
    that GPO are going to affect _all_ the users, including the
    Administrator! That will make it impossible to update or administrate
    the PC. The trick in that web page will show you how to trigger the
    restricted environment for public but _not_ for Administrator. (to
    bypass the autologon to get to the logon prompt, hold down Shift while
    the PC boots).

    I've just rolled out thirty Citrix thin terminals using this method,
    and no one's broken them yet :-)



    ah gawd, dunno if i have it in me... too much learning. If any1 can break it down into a step by step guide I'd appreciate that...


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,272 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    google for kiosk xp firefox


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭chump


    Thanks Capt' ... I'd also like them to have access to MS Word and a few allowd applications but have to start somewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    In my internet Café I use 1st Security Agent

    It lets me lock off everything I could possibly want on any User account in XP. And it very easy and straight forward to use.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭chump


    Ahhh..

    http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm

    Dougs Security Console... Is it worth 10$ tho to get the functionality I want


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭chump


    Got the full version of Doug's thing and seems to work great!

    Thanks monkeyfudge for that proggie too. I might have a look at it if this doesn't seem to do everything I'm after...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    chump wrote:
    Got the full version of Doug's thing and seems to work great!

    Thanks monkeyfudge for that proggie too. I might have a look at it if this doesn't seem to do everything I'm after...
    Let me know how you get on. The Doug one is cheaper after all.

    One problem I have with 1st Secuirity Agent is that it only allows you to lock out the internet options for IE.

    It means I can't put Firefox on the computers as people would be able to get into it's internet options and increase the cache size... which is something that caused a problem for me before.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭Syth


    It means I can't put Firefox on the computers as people would be able to get into it's internet options and increase the cache size... which is something that caused a problem for me before.
    Sorry to drag this off topic, but how is the cache size a problem for a net cafe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭chump


    Hey monkeyfudge,

    I'd imagine you'd have to delve quite deeply into group policy to be able to do anything regarding firefox, and even the I'm not so sure...

    I'm surprised how easy it was to restrict access in general using that Doug program tho. Using it plus a little bit of Security Setting changes do the job...


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,272 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    chump wrote:
    Thanks Capt' ... I'd also like them to have access to MS Word and a few allowd applications but have to start somewhere
    in that case you can use Registry entries / policies to block off buttons on the start menu so they can only see those apps.

    also look up mandatory policies, so they can't change their settings
    - renaming ntuser.dat to ntuser.man IIRC

    The problem is most Apps allow you to call up a program some how.
    eg: In Outlook ( I use OO instead of M$Office ) New Email, Insert, browse to c:\windows\system32 and then Open cmd.exe :rolleyes:
    - and Unlike word Outlook has an attachment filter...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Syth wrote:
    Sorry to drag this off topic, but how is the cache size a problem for a net cafe?
    One person paid to use the internet café, increased the cache size to the full capacity of the hard drive. Filled the cache up with porn sites and then told his (much younger) mates how access the sites in the cache without paying.

    We don't actually have a staff member present at the internet café as it's pretty small with just 4 computers. So it all works on pre-pay system that won't allow access to the internet unless you type in the username and password that comes written on your reciept.


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