Asus 6800TD Vs 9800 Pro

Kintarō Hattori · 11-07-2005 9:13am #1

Hey Ho Folks,

Just after some advice. I've found it hard to find any benchmark results for the 6800TD and as a result I've turned to your good selves for some advice. I currently have a Sapphire 9800 Pro 128MB (256bit) and have the option of a cheap upgrade if I want it to an Asus AGP 6800TD.

I know my system is rather craptacular, but I was wondering if I'd see any advantage in going from the 9800Pro to the 6800TD? Any advice or comments are most welcome.

System
Asus A7N8X-E Mobo
1GB Dual Channel DDR400 (nothing fancy)
AthlonXP 2400
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB (256Bit)
Maxtor 120GB ATA 7200rpm

Ciaran500 · 11-07-2005 9:39am

6800TD? You mean 6800GT?

You will see a big increse in performance with a 6800. But it will be CPU limited in most games.

Kintarō Hattori · 11-07-2005 9:52am

Hi Ciaran,

No it's a 6800TD rather than a GT. Hey I'm more than well aware of the 6800GT, I wouldn't say no to one at all. The one I'm looking at is a 6800TD from Asus - V9999TD.

Darwin · 11-07-2005 10:19am

Yes, indeed the card is also known as the V9999TD. The memory clock is 300MHz lower than a normal 6800GT and it has 128MB of (non-DDR3) RAM. I've believe it offers 80% the performance of a full blown 6800GT. I would say go for it if the upgrade is say half the cost getting a GT.

uberpixie · 11-07-2005 2:43pm

Darwin wrote:

Yes, indeed the card is also known as the V9999TD. The memory clock is 300MHz lower than a normal 6800GT and it has 128MB of (non-DDR3) RAM. I've believe it offers 80% the performance of a full blown 6800GT. I would say go for it if the upgrade is say half the cost getting a GT.

You will see a bigger performance boost in getting a new amd 64 + motherboard than getting that card.

I had a 2400XP + 512mb 333mhz ram + 9800NP.
40-50 frames in CS source video stress test.

Went to: AMD64 3500+, 1gig bog 400Mhz ram and still used my 9800NP.
100-110 frames in cs source stress test.....

A 2400XP will seriously bottle neck any gfx card you can get. CPU will make a bigger overall performance difference than a new gfx card.

I would compare the price of getting the card to getting a cheap amd64 + nf3 mobo.

christophicus · 11-07-2005 6:56pm

Isnt the the v9999 td pretty much a 6800 wich can be/is overcloced to naerly the same speeds as a 6800 gt.you would be much better of getting a 6800 gt then the v9999 because it will preform much better at high resolutions thanks to its extra pipelines

RicardoSmith · 11-07-2005 9:07pm

a 9800pro isn't the bottle neck on a 2400xp system. There would be no point upgrading.

Mutant_Fruit · 11-07-2005 9:24pm

Hell, an AMD64 3000+ would bottleneck a 6800GT and thats far better than an XP24000+. Don't upgrade the graphics card, upgrade the CPU!

zuma · 11-07-2005 9:39pm

Mutant_Fruit wrote:

Hell, an AMD64 3000+ would bottleneck a 6800GT and thats far better than an XP24000+. Don't upgrade the graphics card, upgrade the CPU!

A AMD64 3000+ wouldnt even bottleneck a 7800GTX!!!

Take a look at some graphics cards apps/tests...the bottleneck these days are the graphics cards and not relativately moden CPU's.

Mutant_Fruit · 11-07-2005 9:47pm

zuma wrote:

A AMD64 3000+ wouldnt even bottleneck a 7800GTX!!!

Take a look at some graphics cards apps/tests...the bottleneck these days are the graphics cards and not relativately moden CPU's.

Unreal Tournament 2004 and Tiger Woods 2005 are both CPU bottlenecked on an AMD Fx-55. I'm sure a 3000+ would bottleneck a lot more games.
linky

christophicus · 12-07-2005 6:48pm

yes but the bottleneck wouldnt be great on doom youd probably be running at just under 70fps with an fx-55 and 6800gt whereas you would be running between 55 and 60 fps on a athlon 64 3000

Mutant_Fruit · 12-07-2005 8:16pm

But the bottleneck would definately be there on an XP2400+. That is way slow for such a good GFX card.

DemonOfTheFall · 13-07-2005 8:48am

I have an A64 3000+ and a 6800 GT. The 3000+ is a crippling bottleneck on the graphics card.

(No I have not fscked up setting the computer up, no i have not forgotten to install motherboard drivers, no it isnt overheating, no cool n quiet isnt on, yes i do have enough ram, no the ram isnt slow, no the pc isnt using swap file)

I can underclock the 6800gt or overclock it and HL2 / CS:S barely budges as far as frame rate goes. However, if I overclock the processor performance instantly shoots up. Going from a 1.8 ghz to 2.4 ghz is a *huge* performance increase. Makes 1280x1024 with everything on highest at least 20 fps faster and keeps the game much more fluid. I find it totally unplayable with the same settings without overclocking.

Read a few reviews of any high end GFX card, the reviewer will always point out that it was cpu bottlenecked in all but the highest IQ benchmarks

RicardoSmith · 25-07-2005 11:17pm

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/athlon_64_geforce_7800_gtx_scaling/

Kintarō Hattori · 26-07-2005 11:19am

There is no doubt that the XP2400 is a bottleneck, the obvious thing is to upgrade to Athlon64 which will be done soon enough. Can I just say that I plumped for the 6800TD LE and find it a huge improvement over the 9800 Pro. It is however just a stop gap and when I go down the 64Bit route it'll be with PCI-E.

(Now you can carry on arguing!!!)

Asus 6800TD Vs 9800 Pro

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