Dial-up Pings, Post yours!

djmarkus

I'm just curious on how my dial-up pings compare to other people, i think the reason for high latency on dial up connections is the length from the exchange, a crap modem, and bad quality phone line, also post what speed you connect at!

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.136.36] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=147ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=110ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=110ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=109ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 82.195.136.36:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 109ms, Maximum = 147ms, Average = 119ms

currently connected at 42.6k can be upto 49.2k!


I dont want broadband people going "Oh god thats so crap, my pings are like 20ms, why dont you get broadband!?"

I wish i could get broadband but eircom isnt upto the job.

TerrorFirmer

Well, Im on BB and gets pings of up to 200+

Sometimes I really wonder why bother

djmarkus

MobileInfantry wrote:

Well, Im on BB and gets pings of up to 200+

Sometimes I really wonder why bother

probably because you get about 50kbytes/s?

Mossy Monk

apparently i get 100% loss when pinging www.boards.ie

strange that

zuma

Just for comparison:

My 2Mbit BT DSL gives

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.136.36] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 82.195.136.36:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 26ms, Maximum = 28ms, Average = 27ms

When I had dialup, I would get between 40K and 50K depending on what type of modem I used...with winmodems being at the 40k range and dedicated hardware modems hitting 50k.

Those high pings are due to the roundabout way of using dialup.

Do a "tracert www.boards.ie" and post what you get.

Sparky

Mossy Monk wrote:

apparently i get 100% loss when pinging www.boards.ie

strange that

Could be your router firewall, ive always noticed that to do pings ive to go to the site in IE first then do the pings

matt-dublin

6mb Uncontended gives...

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.136.36] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=126
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=126
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=126
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=126

Mutant_Fruit

Its funny, i could have sworn this was about dialup pings :rolleyes: Ah well, i coud be wrong

djmarkus

no, ur def not wrong! looks like im the only person using dial-up!

djmarkus

matt-dublin wrote:

6mb Uncontended gives...

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.136.36] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=126
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=126
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=126
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=126

how much does that cost you?

Mutant_Fruit

djmarkus wrote:

no, ur def not wrong! looks like im the only person using dial-up!

Could be because this is the broadband forum I used to get ingame pings of about 170ms on my 56k back in the day. Only happened on the good UK servers though. My average ping was about 200ms. Good times! Most reliable pings i've ever gotten.

Mossy Monk

this is the computer forum, broadband is over that way

Mutant_Fruit

Mossy Monk wrote:

this is the computer forum, broadband is over that way

You're crazy mossy, crazy! This is obviously the broadband forum!
*runs away before someone else notices*

djmarkus

i was thinking that myself

maidhc

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.136.36] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=120ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=111ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=106ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 82.195.136.36:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 105ms, Maximum = 120ms, Average = 110ms

...On a US Robotics 56k external serial modem.

djmarkus

not bad for dial up, what speed are you connected at?

Snowbat

You really can't do much better than 100ms on dialup - it is a limitation of modem standards that are optimised for reliability and speed, not low latency. It indicates you have one of the better modems as I've seen some modems of poor design with 250ms on the first hop.

Have you considered ISDN?

byte

Pinging 82.195.136.36 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 82.195.136.36:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 30ms, Maximum = 32ms, Average = 31ms

On 64k ISDN

djmarkus

Snowbat wrote:

You really can't do much better than 100ms on dialup - it is a limitation of modem standards that are optimised for reliability and speed, not low latency. It indicates you have one of the better modems as I've seen some modems of poor design with 250ms on the first hop.

Have you considered ISDN?

Yes but i dont think my exchange is enabled and its sh1t expensive last time i checked, if pings are as low as 30 i'd def get it for online gaming

Tar.Aldarion

im on 56k and connect at 28.8-31.2k woohoo ffs

djmarkus

your probably sharing a line with ur neighbour, notice any cross-talk(where u can hear other peoples convos when u lift the fone)?

AdMMM

C:\Documents and Settings\Adam.TRAMORE>ping -n 5 www.boards.ie

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.136.36] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=101ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=110ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=110ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=110ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=110ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 82.195.136.36:
Packets: Sent = 5, Received = 5, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 101ms, Maximum = 110ms, Average = 108ms


I get very stable pings with this modem ingame and it never fluctuates!

parasite

on iol anytime

$ping -n 5 www.boards.ie

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.136.36] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=99ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=98ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=99ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 82.195.136.36:
Packets: Sent = 5, Received = 5, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 95ms, Maximum = 99ms, Average = 97ms

djmarkus

parasite wrote:

on iol anytime

$ping -n 5 www.boards.ie

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.136.36] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=99ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=98ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=99ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 82.195.136.36:
Packets: Sent = 5, Received = 5, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 95ms, Maximum = 99ms, Average = 97ms

nice! wut speed do u get connected at and what modem do u use?

maidhc

I tend to connect at a steady 40k. Sometimes its better, maybe 45k.

I tried the pings on my laptop with a Conexant winmodem. Blah. 120/130 or so average.

christophicus

how do you get that ping ing info? also most of the time I connect at 48kbps on a 56k line which i think is the max.I know someone said they gothigher but those are just spikes.

djmarkus

christophicus wrote:

how do you get that ping ing info? also most of the time I connect at 48kbps on a 56k line which i think is the max.I know someone said they gothigher but those are just spikes.

goto start, run and enter

cmd /k ping www.boards.ie


Post the result!

christophicus

cool thanks for that.

ok heres what i got on my 56k modem

Wait I cant copy it how do you copy it?

christophicus

sorry to double post but how do you copy the results from dos?

zuma

Right click on the normally blue border with "Command Prompt".

Goto Edit-Select all and then Edit-Copy.

djmarkus

christophicus wrote:

sorry to double post but how do you copy the results from dos?

hmm well u see the little icon at the top left that looks like a little c:\ , well you click on that, goto edit, and mark, now you mark the while page by dragging the mouse from corner to opposite corner and press enter, its now in the clipboard, now paste it into your post(ctrl+v)

christophicus

cool thanks heres (finally )what i go with my 56k modem


Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.136.36] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=146ms TTL=60
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=133ms TTL=60
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=144ms TTL=60
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=148ms TTL=60

Ping statistics for 82.195.136.36:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 133ms, Maximum = 148ms, Average = 142ms

\>

I dont know if this is what is expected of a 56k. is it good?

Giblet

I used to get 100 to england on 56k

christophicus

Aww man then my time sucks

djmarkus

well, i'd say good. tho i get closer to 100, if i use a softmodem they'd be more like 250.

christophicus

Whats a soft modem?

djmarkus

An internal modem or possibly USB that uses your computers CPU cycles instead of its own dedicated processor to do the calculations it needs, in short, aviod soft modems

zuma

djmarkus wrote:

An internal modem or possibly USB that uses your computers CPU cycles instead of its own dedicated processor to do the calculations it needs, in short, aviod soft modems

They are sometimes called win modems and are as cheap as chips compared to dedicated modems.
Also they are very small and are installed in almost all computers these days due to their very low cost!!!

christophicus

Do they go into pci slots? cos i have a dell and the modem is on a pci card.

zuma

christophicus wrote:

Do they go into pci slots? cos i have a dell and the modem is on a pci card.

Yeah.

Has the modem got a black cuboid caseing covering the electronics???
If so then its a win modem!!!

pedro ferio-vti

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.boards.ie

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.136.36] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=142ms TTL=54
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=147ms TTL=54
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=134ms TTL=54
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=141ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 82.195.136.36:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 134ms, Maximum = 147ms, Average = 141ms

christophicus

no there is no casing it just looks like oany other pci card

djmarkus

a better indication is that if your dial tone comes through your speakers then its a soft modem, if it comes throught a buzzer on the modem itself its a hardware one.

christophicus

ok thanks I have a hardware connection then .

zuma

djmarkus wrote:

a better indication is that if your dial tone comes through your speakers then its a soft modem, if it comes throught a buzzer on the modem itself its a hardware one.

Bad indicator!!!

I have a winmodem(Lucent) in front of me with a built in buzzer!!!
It only has two chips on the PCB...hardware modems would would probable have more.
It take up only half the width of the backplace and ends once all the connectors of the PCI slot are there for insertion.

Very small, light and cheap!!!

maidhc

I used to have an old Hayes Accura on a P2. It was 3 times the size of the thing Dell put in. Great modem pity about the lightening.

Its hard to get a hardware modem now that isnt external I would imagine. If you are stuck with a 56k, I would really recommend the USR external. Its a bit pricey new, but it is worth it. I bought it primarily for linux, but I couldnt now face a return to softmodem land.

I tried pinging again:

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.136.36] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=93ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 82.195.136.36:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 93ms, Maximum = 96ms, Average = 94ms

Explosive_Cornflake

It's quick for me tonight:
Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.136.36] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=174ms TTL=60
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=187ms TTL=60
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=187ms TTL=60
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=187ms TTL=60

Ping statistics for 82.195.136.36:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 174ms, Maximum = 187ms, Average = 183ms

Connected at 45.2k for once.
I'm about 4 to 5 miles frmo my exchange

Tar.Aldarion

djmarkus wrote:

your probably sharing a line with ur neighbour, notice any cross-talk(where u can hear other peoples convos when u lift the fone)?

no i dont i think my 28.8 k connection just makes no sense....

marco murphy

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

im on 56k and connect at 28.8-31.2k woohoo ffs

I even get 8kbps - and thats not a spelling mistake - EIGHT kbps.

matt-dublin

djmarkus wrote:

how much does that cost you?

25 k a year

djmarkus

God Bless €ircom