sjones' choice

scojones

Tuesday July 5th '05
Utoxeter
8.10 Manoram Non-Runner
9.10 Croic an oir 3rd never threatend
Wolverhampton
8.20 Spear 2nd, boxed in for the whole race, disappointing
8.50 Lawmaker led all the way, excellent win

Spear , Lawmaker and Croic an oir should be self explanatory.
Manoram is returning to 16f today after some disappointing longer trips. It's consistant over this distance with a form of 3,1,2,2,1,3,1

Fandango

Cheers, How confident are you? Ive had a baaaaad day at the track today.

blahblah06

personally i dont think lawmaker is a good choice...

fade2black

Croc an Oir is a good choice alright....won his last two on the bridle and there's probably more to come from him

scojones

Fandango wrote:

Cheers, How confident are you? Ive had a baaaaad day at the track today.

I'm pretty confident, I feel there is definately two winners in there. If you've had a bad day today it's probably worth your while to ignore my selections here.

If you really want to place a bet tonight, maybe it would be worth your while to do a e/w double on spear and croic an oir.

Viewers discretion is advised here. I don't exactly have a great track record with my lucky 15's on here. So beware!

scojones

De Roberto 4/1 e/w

scojones

3rd

scojones

High Peak currently 5/1 e/w

What a race by optimistic harry

High Peak 3rd. Money back.

Fandango

Decided to leave it for tonight. I need to redeposit into my account which i HATE doing

scojones

Probably best to be honest. It's raining at Uttoxeter, getting softer as the time goes on. I suspect there will be a few winning outsiders.

digiman

sjones wrote:

I'm pretty confident, I feel there is definately two winners in there. If you've had a bad day today it's probably worth your while to ignore my selections here.

If you really want to place a bet tonight, maybe it would be worth your while to do a e/w double on spear and croic an oir.

Viewers discretion is advised here. I don't exactly have a great track record with my lucky 15's on here. So beware!

How does this work, never really figured out the E/W double. Spear is 4/5 and Croic and oir is 7/4. Do you only get money back if both horses win or if both horses get placed? Does anyone know how much you would get back on a €5 E/W total of €10 on these odds? I know how to work out the odds but unsure when it comes to E/W accumlaters.

scojones

if they win

Price 1 4/5 win
Price 2 7/4 win
Unit Stake 5
Total Stake: 10
Return: 33.38

if both are placed

Price 1 4/5 placed
Price 2 7/4 placed
Unit Stake 5
Total Stake: 10
Return: 8.63


Use the calculator on paddypower.com if you are ever in doubt.

scojones

Spear was boxed in the whole way, very disappointing 2nd place.

digiman

Would you mind showing me exactly how you calculated the placed bet, Do you divide both odds by what ever the placed odds are, usually 1/4. This is the way I thought that you would calculate it:
7/4 = 2.75 Convert to decimal
2.75/4 = 0.685 Divide by place

4/5 = 0.8 Convert to decimal
0.8/4 = 0.2 Divide by place

0.2*0.685 = 0.137. Multiply both selections

I presume the above is wrong

scojones

I used the calculator on paddypower.com

went to double
I put in the odds, and said they were placed.
said the stake was 5 and that for being placed it was 1/4 of the odds.
then i pressed the calculate button.

digiman

Fair enough, I would just like to know how do it myself because when you are in the bookies it would be handy to know if its worth putting the bet on E/W in a double because sometimes it is not.

Crumbs

digiman wrote:

7/4 = 2.75 Convert to decimal
2.75/4 = 0.685 Divide by place

Firstly, 7/4 is 1.75
Then dividing it by 4 gives 0.4375

4/5 = 0.8 Convert to decimal
0.8/4 = 0.2 Divide by place

Okey-dokey.

0.2*0.685 = 0.137. Multiply both selections

Here's the important bit -> before multiplying, add 1 to each number.
So you get 1.4375 * 1.2 = 1.725

That would be your return for a €1 place double, so multiplying that by 5 gives €8.63, which is what sjones showed earlier in his results from the paddypower calculator thingymajig.

digiman

Cheers crumbs, I see what I done wrong now. I converted to decimal and then added my 1 and divided by 4. Thats why I got the 2.75 and forgot to do this for the other horse!!

Best of luck in that 9.10 with croic an oir

scojones

Overall result from the lucky 15 is a return of 10 euro.

scojones

Newmarket
1.20 Mr Vegas won @ 2/7
1.55 Red Clubs still running
3.05 Gamut won @ 2/1
Lingfield
3.25 Don Peter lost

scojones

Lingfield 5.40 Song Sparrow currently 3/1

I'm hitting this hard e/w. I probably shouldn't do this, you know, never try to win back what you lost. But here goes, it's a bad enough day!

She was very very strong in her last race, saying lots of good things about her on ATR.

fade2black

Bit of each way value...SEEJAY

fade2black

lol...11 pounds out of the handicap.....seejay indeed

scojones

Free Style the 11-2 winner. Lads take note, never follow me!