I've trying something new...

Evil Phil · 08-07-2001 12:57am #1

... a temporary ban, for 24 hours, on WhiteLancer. Normally Karma and warnings work. Maybe even closing a thread but in this case I've no other resort as I've already locked 4 threads. Opinions?

[This message has been edited by Evil Phil (edited 08-07-2001).]

Celt · 08-07-2001 1:09am

You didnt seem to like this
"The only reason your mod is because your friends with dev"

Shinji · 08-07-2001 1:12am

Perhaps he didn't like your generally shítty attitude to the boards, the other users and the moderators?

I do wish you'd just fúck off Whitelancer, you're obviously depriving a village somewhere of its idiot by staying here.

Celt · 08-07-2001 1:15am

Shinji, fúck off you racist, biased pig.

Evil Phil · 08-07-2001 1:15am

I didn't like this post or the threat it contains

Didnt rich recall your fleets a few times?
Kaidos, fúck off and die, you dont have a ****ing clue what your talking about and until you do, stfu and **** off.
Rich your a degenerate piece of human turd, and if i ever meet you in real life ill beat the **** out of you.

And that isnt an idle threat.

on http://www.boards.ie/bulletin/Forum23/HTML/000152.html

but in particular I really didn't like

No your a cnut rich, trust me on that.

which is on the same thread. Or

I might take this moment to mention that rich is a lame fúck thanks.

Which is on a different unrelated thread. I don't like to over quote but in this case I think it's justified. This should be left in IRC or email. It's personal and shouldn't be on the boards imho. I hate to ask but can the Admins step in here.

richindub2 · 08-07-2001 1:17am

Just thought id apologise for the flame war. I did try to take it to irc once i saw the post, but was kick banned and put on ignore by him so couldnt talk there

*cough*
daves l33t site 0wns j00.

Celt · 08-07-2001 1:21am

Kaidos, fúck off and die, you dont have a ****ing clue what your talking about and until you do, stfu and **** off.

Kaids told me it was only a game and to calm down, and i told him the truth.

No your a cnut rich, trust me on that.

Too true.

I might take this moment to mention that rich is a lame fúck thanks.

How is that any different than

I do wish you'd just fúck off Whitelancer, you're obviously depriving a village somewhere of its idiot by staying here.

?

Just thought id apologise for the flame war. I did try to take it to irc once i saw the post, but was kick banned and put on ignore by him so couldnt talk there

Talk what over rich?

Evil Phil · 08-07-2001 1:23am

Your on -6 now WL. That's not good, I suggest you calm down and come back tomorrow. Just leave it at that for now.

I will add that sometimes tempers flare on the boards, true. But your not a newbie and you should no better at this stage.

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Celt · 08-07-2001 1:26am

So after reading my post here shinji gives me a -1 karma for nothing, then mills gives me -2 karma for nothing to do with him.

Shinji · 08-07-2001 1:28am

Actually I'd modify that to "calm down and never bloody well come back, you utter turd". It's not like anyone here actually wants him to come back in the morning, since he never contributes in any positive fashion (that requires too many braincells) and his idea of a sensible discussion is either to post a massive quote with a tiny inane comment at the bottom, or simply to describe people using badly spelt insults.

He's not even a troll, since he's not smart enough to be doing this for personal kicks, he's just a genuine, 100%, often copied never equalled, moron.

Evil Phil · 08-07-2001 1:28am

Seriously, leave it for now WL. The mods have decided that you deserved negitive karma. If we're in the wrong the Admins will rectify the situation.

[edited for spelling, really should buy a dictonary}

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Shinji · 08-07-2001 1:29am

Actually your -1 karma was for abuse directed at another user on the CS boards - there's that cunning link in the email that goes with it, but then again I hardly expect a plankton like you to pick up on that. It'd be a bit too much to ask from someone so far down the evolutionary tree (down around the roots somewhere by all accounts).

Celt · 08-07-2001 1:30am

Oh no, shinji hasnt liked me ever since i stuck up for numbers !!
What a big surprise since shinji takes every opportunity to flame them and especially some of there members.
Shinji, half of your posts are abusive posts so practice what you preach.

Celt · 08-07-2001 1:32am

This is a warning for your post at:
http://www.boards.ie/bulletin/Forum20/HTML/001762.html#12

You are being warned for the following reason:
Randomly insulting other posters on CS boards with no reason given. About as big and clever as an amoeba.

This warning was issued by Shinji

http://www.boards.ie/

1) wasnt random
2) wasnt more than 1 person
3) abusive karma? pld you, since your so intelligent and super human and all.

Evil Phil · 08-07-2001 1:34am

Can you not see where this is heading WL?

Celt · 08-07-2001 1:35am

Why did Mills give me -2 karma for something not on his board?
Why did Shinji give me -1 for flaming him on Admin board?
Why did evil phil give me -2 for the one thread and -1 for something not on his board?

Celt · 08-07-2001 1:37am

Dont really care, mods abusing there powers and shinji acting in an unmoderately way.
Hey look, another -1 from a moderator about a post not on his board!

Stephen · 08-07-2001 1:38am

Moderators can give karma to people on any board, and I'm told this is allowed.

Evil Phil · 08-07-2001 1:40am

And in this case it's deserved. As I have already said though, if we're wrong the Admins will sort it out. Or they may choose to sort somebody else out.

Shinji · 08-07-2001 1:43am

Oh no, shinji hasnt liked me ever since i stuck up for numbers !!

Actually I don't even remember you doing that. But of course I hate everyone who sticks up for numbers, which is why I really cannot stand Lucy.. oh no wait... hrm, kinda breaks down there eh?

Dont really care, mods abusing there powers and shinji acting in an unmoderately way.

Haha, I wondered how long it'd take the retard to get around to "Help, Help, I'm Being Oppressed!"

If all the moderators are ganging up and picking on you unfairly, hey, here's an idea - fúck off and find another board with moderators who don't dislike you so unfairly!

bubbles · 08-07-2001 1:44am

You have been ****ing off alot of people over the last 2 months Whitelancer, including myself with those stupid posts you make to the forsale board.

You should be 12 clicked, and not before time too!

I think online.ie is the place for your muppetry, you'll fit in nicly there.

Celt · 08-07-2001 1:44am

This is a warning for your post at:
http://www.boards.ie/bulletin/Forum20/HTML/001762.html#14

You are being warned for the following reason:
Patronizing behavior towards a moderator (Shinji) practically immediatly after a warning. You should really know better.

This warning was issued by Bob the Unlucky Octopus

http://www.boards.ie/

Who is being patronising?
Is it
A)

you're obviously depriving a village somewhere of its idiot by staying here.

Actually I'd modify that to "calm down and never bloody well come back, you utter turd". It's not like anyone here actually wants him to come back in the morning, since he never contributes in any positive fashion (that requires too many braincells) and his idea of a sensible discussion is either to post a massive quote with a tiny inane comment at the bottom, or simply to describe people using badly spelt insults.
He's not even a troll, since he's not smart enough to be doing this for personal kicks, he's just a genuine, 100%, often copied never equalled, moron.

C)

Actually your -1 karma was for abuse directed at another user on the CS boards - there's that cunning link in the email that goes with it, but then again I hardly expect a plankton like you to pick up on that. It'd be a bit too much to ask from someone so far down the evolutionary tree (down around the roots somewhere by all accounts).

Oh wait its all from the same person!!

Celt · 08-07-2001 1:46am

Who said im being oppressed?
When i flamed Hinch when i was mod loads of people told me to act more like a moderator and yet you seem to make it your job to flame as many people daily as you can.

But of course I hate everyone who sticks up for numbers, which is why I really cannot stand Lucy.. oh no wait... hrm, kinda breaks down there eh?

Putting words in my mouth shinji, please dont.

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Evil Phil · 08-07-2001 1:48am

Oh for God's sake, can you not just leave it until the Admins wake up WL? It will all be decided then.

Bob the Unlucky Octopus · 08-07-2001 1:52am

I was being courteous WhiteLancer, not wanting to call you a rude f*ck, which is blatantly what you are. I have no idea why comments such as:

Shinji, fúck off you racist, biased pig.

are passed by you, or why you take so much pleasure in annoying moderators. Not just moderators- anyone who disagrees with you in fact. You take pleasure in relating specious arguments, patronizing insults, and destructively abusive posts. I see no reason for you to do this, except perhaps that you are an:

I'd be surprised if no further action was taken against you WL- but take my advice, because it's honestly meant- calm down, think about what you've posted, and sleep on it. That, or go the way of Scrappy.

Bob the Unlucky Octopus
=Vade Retro=

Celt · 08-07-2001 1:57am

Hello Bob, care to actually read shinji's posts?

I do wish you'd just fúck off Whitelancer, you're obviously depriving a village somewhere of its idiot by staying here.

Also,
He is clearly biased against #'s.
And he is racist against palestinians.

Evil Phil · 08-07-2001 1:58am

<snip>

I really shouldn't encourage him

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Mills · 08-07-2001 2:00am

Why did Mills give me -2 karma for something not on his board?
Why did Shinji give me -1 for flaming him on Admin board?
Why did evil phil give me -2 for the one thread and -1 for something not on his board?

Moderators can give karma for any incident on any board, it shouldn't even be something "to do with them", it's negative karma for acting like a muppet, I saw loads of flames from yourself and so i decided I'd pick a particularly bad post or two and just give negative karma for that.

Celt · 08-07-2001 2:00am

Still hurting from my "specious" comment that FA was better than DoD i see bob.

Moderators can give karma for any incident on any board, it shouldn't even be something "to do with them"

Yes actually it should be something on the boards there moderated in, it isnt there business on other boards, its that mods business.

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Celt · 08-07-2001 2:07am

Stop it moderators your hurting me by calling me names !

This is a warning for your post at:
http://www.boards.ie/bulletin/Forum24/HTML/000289.html#28

You are being warned for the following reason:
Give it up you muppet

This warning was issued by Stephen

http://www.boards.ie/

[This message has been edited by WhiteLancer (edited 08-07-2001).]

Evil Phil · 08-07-2001 2:08am

Is there any chance of you leaving this alone until you can discuss it with the Admins?

Mills · 08-07-2001 2:10am

Nope, from what I'm told karma isn't board specific, anyone who has been bestowed with the rank of moderator is able to give out karma appropriately on any board, if I'm told by one of the admins that this is not the case then fair enough, I've never gone outside the CS board to give karma except for one post on technology and two of yours. I didn't set out to give you karma, I just happened to see a load of flames from you on the boards I was reading, worse than I've seen by anyone outside of a few deliberate trouble makers on CS board since the karma system was introduced.

Bob the Unlucky Octopus · 08-07-2001 2:14am

Originally posted by WhiteLancer:
Still hurting from my "specious" comment that FA was better than DoD i see bob.

That had nothing to do with it, and the sad thing is that you know it. You're just trying to sh*it-stir- which isn't just being an attention ho3- but acting the Uber-muppet. Your hurtful comments after I made valid arguments in that thread didn't endear you to me in the slightest- but I gave you -1 Karma because practically the second Shinji warned you, you acted abusive. As for saying it's "that mods business"- it isn't any of your business to question the rules out of context. If you have a complaint start a thread about mods giving karma on other boards. Don't use the argument as a pathetic crutch to defend yourself from legitimate criticism.

Your remark that Shinji was being racist due to a neo-colonialist comment he made on a Humanities thread is so incredibly insulting I won't even get into it. How stupid do you think we are? You draw an inexplicable conclusion from a simple statement of opinion. You're trying to justify to us (and maybe to yourself) that there's a legitimate reason for you disliking Shinji. It's pathetic really...

Bob the Unlucky Octopus
=Carpe Diem=

Dave · 08-07-2001 2:14am

Nice tactic that... digging your way out of a hole.

12 click.

-Dave

Celt · 08-07-2001 2:20am

Your hurtful comments after I made valid arguments in that thread didn't endear you to me in the slightest

Are you reading the same posts i am?

Makes you wonder if the Palestinians really are capable of running their own country. Most other arab nations with extremists in positions of power seem to have f*cked it up royally, I fail to see how Palestine would do any better..

we're NOT all created equal, all cultures are NOT equally valid

Funny how it always seems to be the Muslims who screw it all up, eh?

And dont make smart comments about quoting dictioanries pls

rac·ism (rszm)
n.
The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

racist adj 1: based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" 2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion [syn: antiblack, anti-Semitic, anti-Semite(a)] n : a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

LegacyUser · 08-07-2001 9:23am

Whitelancer in the way CT would put it ....

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amp · 08-07-2001 10:35am

Bravo Whitelancer! You fight that evil power that's oppressing your innocent, white as snow áss. Pretty soon I think all the moderators and admins will realise the terrible mistake they are making with you.
They will realise that they're actions are totally unjustified and that they're picking on you unjustly.

And then you'll wake up and realise you've peed the bed again!

Lunacy Abounds! GLminesweeper RO><ORS!
"Boxes for show, Baskets for a pro" - [FCA]SyxPak

Bard · 08-07-2001 10:47am

Originally posted by WhiteLancer:
Yes actually it should be something on the boards there moderated in, it isnt there business on other boards, its that mods business.

That's hardly up to you to decide.

Negative karma set.

Bard

First motorbike in the bible ???? ---- a Triumph --- 'Yea verily Moses struck down the ammmanites and all the land heard the roar of his triumph !!!'

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TwoShedsJackson · 08-07-2001 10:48am

Is someone banned at -10 Karma, I thought I read that somewhere. Seeing as WhiteLancer is the first to plumb those depths?

Shinji · 08-07-2001 10:51am

Uh-oh, looks like Whitelancer has extreme difficulty telling the difference between "debate" and "reality". I wonder if we should draw him a little diagram, like Father Dougal had?

Bard · 08-07-2001 10:55am

Originally posted by Castor Troy:
Is someone banned at -10 Karma, I thought I read that somewhere. Seeing as WhiteLancer is the first to plumb those depths?

Well if every negative point in the Karma history counts... he should be on -13 ... maybe it stops counting after -10?

Bard

First motorbike in the bible ???? ---- a Triumph --- 'Yea verily Moses struck down the ammmanites and all the land heard the roar of his triumph !!!'

smoke.me.a.kipper · 08-07-2001 1:46pm

Originally posted by Shinji:
I wonder if we should draw him a little diagram, like Father Dougal had?

hahah. pld Shinji.

White, look mate, theres nothing you can do about this. the mods have had their say. just give it up for now, and just think about what you post in future.

DeVore · 08-07-2001 7:56pm

Hang on, noone gets run out of town around here (unless I do it

) BUT I *have* had reason to talk to White before and only today saw a burst of invective totally off topic at a user on the CS board.

Get this much correct though:
Main boards.ie Mods have the right to issue negative Karma anywhere on the site. However once negative karma has been set for a given post NO OTHER MOD OR ADMIN can issue negative karma for that post so a lot of negative karma means a lot of bad posts.

Shinji should have a license for that tongue of his but I dont see anything wrong with his adminning particularly.

White, you need to calm down and start thinking your posts through. Less invective and insults and more considered opinion.

Thats why Shinji gets away with it, because as unpleasant as his slagging may be to you, its not just "f00k u yuo m0ng!".

DeV.

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Shinji · 08-07-2001 9:20pm

Shinji should have a license for that tongue of his

Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an organisation responsible for licensing tongues... (phew, I avoided the blatantly obvious rimming joke, plyd me...)

I don't believe in having to bite my tongue when dealing with someone who is being insulting, overbearing and generally a pain. If I'm in work and I'm dealing with someone who is annoying me, I'll grin and bear it, because I have to, but the same rules don't apply outside of paid worktime - and that has nothing to do with my moderator position, since I'd be like that moderator or not, and indeed was like that long before I was a moderator...

(I know Dev knows this, but I just want to make clear to folk that I'm not on some kind of moderator powertrip - in so much as is possible, my moderator privs, the same as my admin on the IGN servers and ops in fortress.ie, are used as objectively as I can. What I actually say is coming from Shinji the boards poster, not Shinji the moderator, unless otherwise flagged.)

Evil Phil · 08-07-2001 10:44pm

WL is quiet now so let's hope he learned his lesson. It's going to take him a while to get his karma back though.

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Bob the Unlucky Octopus · 08-07-2001 11:12pm

Originally posted by Shinji:
Uh-oh, looks like Whitelancer has extreme difficulty telling the difference between "debate" and "reality". I wonder if we should draw him a little diagram, like Father Dougal had?

Well put Rob m8. That thread that he uses as a toothpick argument to "prove" your dastardly racism was being argued from a pragmatic point of view. WL doesn't seem to realize that in policy debate of that nature, the points of view that you hold aren't necessarily your own. A stimulating discussion can sometimes only be achieved by taking a new, and different point of view.

You see Rob, he figures that on the basis of one policy argument he's sussed out not just your feelings on racism, but your weight, height sexual preference etc. It's his way of efficiently coming to an expedient conclusion that fits his abstract hatred of random individuals. Future generations will call it "Whitelogic"- it's the doublethink of the 21st century- be afraid...be very, very afraid.

Bob the Unlucky Octopus
=Carpe Diem=

PHB · 08-07-2001 11:48pm

He'd proably be quicker re-registering and catching up on posts, than trying to get karma back from a mod he hasnt insulted(i chalange you to find me one).

I've trying something new...

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