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Who's influenced you most in martial arts?

  • 01-07-2005 10:39am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭


    I'd have to say initially Bruce Lee for getting my mind around martial arts and his vision on adaptation, and then Royce Gracie for introducing me to brazilian jiu-jitsu.


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hard to say.

    Dunno who in the past. Maybe former instructors back in the day.

    Now? Id say in the MMA world Genki Sudo for being such a legend.

    Combines MMA, Art and entertainment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Kevin_rc_ie


    Well i'm going to exclude "real people" and only concentrate on the famous. But i've always been impressed by the fighting spirit of Wanderlai. Also, I like Fedor's style.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Kevin_rc_ie


    Sensei Will W(v)anders.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Also, I like Fedor's style.
    Someone should introduce Kevin to ground n pound ASAP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Kevin_rc_ie


    yeah how do you train in that with out hurting each other?
    also are there gentleman's rules were you doing aim for each others kidneys. I admit i've never fought like this (well not in a few years anyway) but surely it's pretty easy to get someone down face first on the mat and just batter there soft parts til they piss red. Even with no head shots.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    "A left knee and a takedown, back to back by Fedor and obviously as you said this is a dangerous situation because if somebody can hit from this position it's Emelianenko Fedor. Right hand, right hand, right hand - To the head!! To the head!!! And now he's doing the hammerfist!! It's looks like he's out.."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭RedRaven


    Sensei Will W(v)anders.
    Its a KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    yeah how do you train in that with out hurting each other?

    Headgear helps.. Someone lays in guard, the other person attacks. The guy on bottom has to try defend to barrage of punches and try submit the guy on top who's working his GnP.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kevin_rc_ie,

    at the start you train with open palm strikes. Educational contact- enough to make you want the hitting to stop but not enough to knock you out.

    The lads preparing for full rules fights (Mick, Colm) up the contact level. You up the safety cause you dont want people getting knocked out for no reason.

    Kidney shots are a staple. Theyre great for opening up a closed guard.

    People dont tend to ground and pound from the back mount (turtle). It tends to be mount, occasionally striking from guard or rarely striking from north south. If people get someone's back it tends to be rear naked choke time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Kevin_rc_ie


    seeing people get knocked to the canvas, then the other dude hoping on him and elbowing the bejaysus out of the dude still makes me flinch/cringe/hide behind my hands. it's so, vicious.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,215 ✭✭✭FX Meister


    Got to be Grand Master Sexay, he's ground technique is second to none.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭RedRaven


    yeah how do you train in that with out hurting each other?
    also are there gentleman's rules were you doing aim for each others kidneys. I admit i've never fought like this (well not in a few years anyway) but surely it's pretty easy to get someone down face first on the mat and just batter there soft parts til they piss red. Even with no head shots.
    When you train with a fellow student from your camp sparring is for sharpening the senses and teaching the body and mind to deal with both delivering strikes and recieving strikes, unless you can say that you recieved a heavy blow to the head or anywhere else eventually when you do get hit hard by who ever chances are you will fall apart and crumble before you attacker, so sparring with a certain degree of aggression can be a good thing, its all about respect when training If I truely respect my opponent I will push him beyond his boundaries to draw the best from him, this can be done without knocking the guy out its a balance that needs to be found between the two students.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Kevin_rc_ie


    so sparring isn't to see how quickly you can hurt the other guy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Personally, I spar so I can vent all my anger on my friends.. But then again, I'm a sick degenerate. Most people spar to get used to resisting opponents and to improve technique.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭RedRaven


    so sparring isn't to see how quickly you can hurt the other guy?
    It is in a fight i.e. a ring or a mat etc., but the main objective when sparring with fellow students is to sharpen up each others skill- and this does involve getting hit-if you get hit and it hurts then protect better or move or counter strike faster, Pain is a wonderful teacher!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭cade


    i originaly started training cause i wanted to be a martial arts stuntman, was brought up on a diet of 80s martial arts films, never remembered the names of any though, at the moment though my favourite film martial artist would be Gary Daniels last film i saw him in was Fist of the North Star, really classy flick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    They made a film of that? Used to watch the cartoon of it back in the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭pma-ire


    dlofnep wrote:
    They made a film of that? Used to watch the cartoon of it back in the day.

    They did indeed!!

    It's pretty old now. It's good!

    But nothing to be matched with the Manga original !!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭pma-ire


    Watching “Enter The Dragon” and some Jackie Chan movies with my uncle. I was born in 1975 so it was all the rage, when I was 4 or 5 I was making nunchuk’s from sticks or brush handles. Then beating the crap out of myself with them. I think that time was so exciting because the MA’s were so new to the world at large because of “Lee” and “Jackie’s” high standards and becoming household names.

    I have a few Martial Artists that I keep going back to in my memory for inspiration.

    Denis Daly: The TKD instructor who took me to Black Belt. For his constant strive for perfection. Which rubbed off on me big time. Everytime I throw a kick or punch I think of that man, and remember its technique that wins every time.

    Cyril Mc Sweeney: The TKD examiner who took me to Black Belt. For his open view to the Martial Arts and this comment “I’ve tried other Martial Arts, and really enjoyed them. But I love Tae Kwon-Do and I find they fit in well enough that I don’t have to leave one for the other!” The man who opened my eyes to the arts outside of TKD. Everytime I talk about Self-Defence I think about his sessions before gradings.

    Rick Clark: Founder of Ao Denkou Jitsu. If I am half as lethal at his age I’ll be a happy man.

    Dr. John Tichen: Founder of Practical-Karate, he is an inspiration to me due to his battling on through a condition that would have many laid out ages ago.

    Bruce Lee: For all that he stood for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭Musashi


    My first ever TKD Instructor, Mr. Ger Hickey

    The man was made of sterner stuff than any I've met since!
    Took his third Dan grading in between chemo sessions for testicular cancer under Master Rhee.
    "If you don't break you don't pass" so Ger smashed three inches jump spinning hooking kick each leg with tubes running out of his body.
    To me and his other senior students the guy is the definition of indomitable.
    He is no longer involved in TKD due to the ****e involved in the ITF,but if he ever decides to open a club again I'll be there the night he opens.

    Quiet man,no posing about him,meet any of his students and you'll hear the same thing.We all hold him in the highest regard.Alive training or not, he was the main influence on many young lads who became better young men for having met and trained with him.

    Sabum Hickey.


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