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NTL - Pure Gravy

  • 30-06-2005 1:08pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭


    After going through the pain of getting broadband from IBB, BT & SMART I decided to give NTL a go.
    Oh the joy.
    I rang them last Friday, they said sure when next week do you want us?
    I picked a time, then changed it the next day with no problems.
    I got a phonecall and a reminder txt from them the day before and I am now up and running on their 3MB service.

    If you can, go with NTL!


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭voxpop


    I was a disaster for me to get setup with NTL - though the service now is good


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 458 ✭✭juliuspret


    How many customers have NTL Broadband got now???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 370 ✭✭Adey2002


    NTL is probably the best provider in Ireland from what I hear. It's a shame that the rollout is taking so long (although it is a huge job). It's also a little annoying that they don't give any timescales of when areas will be done so no one knows when they will be able to get decent internet connection

    If only they would come and do my road ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    ok, the gravy may have gotten a little congealed
    according to IrishISPspeedtest I am getting ~ 1MB/100k
    I *should* be on 3MB/300k
    Anyone else in the Knocklyon/Templeogue area got anything I can compare to?

    <edit>
    Pings are nice and sexy though
    Pinging jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of

    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=52
    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=52
    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=52
    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=52


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 458 ✭✭juliuspret


    Pings are good to the UK because thats where the NTL infrastructure is.

    So a hard reboot of all your equipment and try those speed tests again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭Fionn_McCool


    Adey2002 wrote:
    NTL is probably the best provider in Ireland from what I hear. It's a shame that the rollout is taking so long (although it is a huge job). It's also a little annoying that they don't give any timescales of when areas will be done so no one knows when they will be able to get decent internet connection

    If only they would come and do my road ....


    Maybe, if you dont include Cablesurf Dungarvan, Stated to be 9Mbit down, bt using the irishisptest site i get 9.9Mbit download ever single time with a 580bit upload, for e40 p.m, constant ping of roughly 27ms-32ms to www.boards.ie, contention ratio of 20:1. ohhy ya, also there is no cap which is greaty especially with the amount i download.

    You have to get cable TV off them also to be able to get this, but for e30 a month for this, getting over 35 channels, i don't see it as abad thing, especcially since they are switching to digital at the end of the summer, but will still give you the cable TV line for free so that you can have digital in 1 room and cable in the rest and everyone can watvh diff channels. :D:D:D

    Now, if you don't think this is the best ISP in Ireland there must be something wrong with you :p:p:p


    <Edit>

    I guess i should back it up with a screenshot from www.irishisptest.com, so here you's go :D:D

    NTLbeater.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 458 ✭✭juliuspret


    Everyone here knows of you lucky bastards in Dungarvin.

    How many people are connected to that BB anyway???

    Could you get a screen capture of the speed test and host/link at imageshack...as I want to see what we might have in 5 years??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭Fionn_McCool


    ok screenshot is now up in my last post.

    id say theres probably only about 1000, maybe two or three, but most of them don't know how llucky there are and don't use it for much more than browsing the net :p:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 458 ✭✭juliuspret


    Damn thats a 10Mbit connection with mabye 600k upload!!!!
    The last time I was able to download that fast was when I was in college and used to get ~20Mbits on those computers.

    What would your monthly downloads come in at Fionn_McCool?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭Marcopolo85


    GreeBo wrote:
    ok, the gravy may have gotten a little congealed
    according to IrishISPspeedtest I am getting ~ 1MB/100k
    I *should* be on 3MB/300k
    Anyone else in the Knocklyon/Templeogue area got anything I can compare to?

    <edit>
    Pings are nice and sexy though
    Pinging jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of

    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=52
    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=52
    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=52
    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=52

    Are you running W98 SE on a USB modem..........?? :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭Marcopolo85


    Maybe, if you dont include Cablesurf Dungarvan, Stated to be 9Mbit down, bt using the irishisptest site i get 9.9Mbit download ever single time with a 580bit upload, for e40 p.m, constant ping of roughly 27ms-32ms to www.boards.ie, contention ratio of 20:1. ohhy ya, also there is no cap which is greaty especially with the amount i download.

    You have to get cable TV off them also to be able to get this, but for e30 a week for this, getting over 35 channels, i don't see it as abad thing, especcially since they are switching to digital at the end of the summer, but will still give you the cable TV line for free so that you can have digital in 1 room and cable in the rest and everyone can watvh diff channels. :D:D:D

    Now, if you don't think this is the best ISP in Ireland there must be something wrong with you :p:p:p

    <Edit>

    I guess i should back it up with a screenshot from www.irishisptest.com, so here you's go :D:D

    NTLbeater.jpg

    Yep - they are the Gods of Broadband.....no doubt about it! Bit confused about the analogue charge - €30 per week? Am I missing something? :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Are you running W98 SE on a USB modem..........?? :confused:
    nope, xp on ethernet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭causal


    GreeBo wrote:
    ok, the gravy may have gotten a little congealed
    according to IrishISPspeedtest I am getting ~ 1MB/100k
    I *should* be on 3MB/300k
    Anyone else in the Knocklyon/Templeogue area got anything I can compare to?

    <edit>
    Pings are nice and sexy though
    Pinging jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of

    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=52
    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=52
    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=52
    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=52

    Knocklyon on 2Mb/200kb is fine acording to irishisptest.
    pings are similar to yours (see below)
    XP & ethernet here too.
    My modem D/S LED normally flashes pretty constantly even when the PC is off - it's stopped doing it recently - I know when I reboot the modem the LED will start flashing again so I've left it coz it annoys me ;)

    Pinging www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of data:
    
    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=51
    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=51
    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=51
    Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=51
    
    Ping statistics for 82.133.85.65:
        Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
        Minimum = 21ms, Maximum = 23ms, Average = 22ms
    

    causal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭Fionn_McCool


    Yep - they are the Gods of Broadband.....no doubt about it! Bit confused about the analogue charge - €30 per week? Am I missing something? :eek:

    ****e sorry, Imeant to say e30 a month, my bad, lol, if it was that much it would not be woth it at all, don't know how i messed that up :o
    juliuspret wrote:
    Damn thats a 10Mbit connection with mabye 600k upload!!!!
    The last time I was able to download that fast was when I was in college and used to get ~20Mbits on those computers.

    What would your monthly downloads come in at Fionn_McCool?

    fortunately, I have the best of both world juliuspret, cablesurf connection, while at home for the holidays and free college connection in my apartment, from CIT, at over 20Mbit/s and usually over a 1Mbit/s upload

    We don't actually have a download/upload counter built in but, i would say my our download each month is at least 50-60Gb

    collegespeed.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 458 ✭✭juliuspret


    I was at CIT a couple of years ago.

    Used to get about the same download ...but about 20Mbit upload!!!

    How the hell are you getting CIT leased line in your apartment???...are you in that new students complex built in the last year....something Hall...at the end of Melbourne Rd, Curaheen Rd I think?

    50GB to 60GB is hardly milking a 10Mbit home connection...hahaha...some people here get 120GB a month from a 16GB capped eircom connection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,942 ✭✭✭Mac daddy


    I'm off to pack my bags and moving to Dungarvin.lucky bastards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭Fionn_McCool


    juliuspret wrote:
    I was at CIT a couple of years ago.

    Used to get about the same download ...but about 20Mbit upload!!!

    How the hell are you getting CIT leased line in your apartment???...are you in that new students complex built in the last year....something Hall...at the end of Melbourne Rd, Curaheen Rd I think?

    50GB to 60GB is hardly milking a 10Mbit home connection...hahaha...some people here get 120GB a month from a 16GB capped eircom connection.


    Ya, dunno why, but for some reason, the upload speed dropped in the second half of the year, had been between 8-10Mbit upload, but then fell off.

    The appartments are called Parchment Square, just beside where Melbourne Rd and Model Farm Rd meet, right next to the council building. I guess they have some sorta deal struck with the college.

    120Gb p.m, tbh i couldn't be arsed downloading that much a month, to much hassel in storage, plus, half the stuff they download, they prob just delete after a couple days.
    As the say, "quality over quantity" ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭causal


    As the say, "quality over quantity" ;)
    True, but as someone else once remarked - "Quantity has a quality all of itself" ;)
    - possibly in relation to tanks in WWII - which I'm sure you'll appreciate (going on your sig).

    causal


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭OMcGovern


    [QUOTE=GreeBo
    according to IrishISPspeedtest I am getting ~ 1MB/100k
    I *should* be on 3MB/300k
    [/QUOTE]

    I get that speed rating in Lucan on the lowest NTL Starter package... @ €25 per month. Assuming that they give out the same cable modem, and set the speed limits on their servers.... maybe they set up your account incorrectly ?

    regards,
    Owen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    OMcGovern wrote:
    I get that speed rating in Lucan on the lowest NTL Starter package... @ €25 per month. Assuming that they give out the same cable modem, and set the speed limits on their servers.... maybe they set up your account incorrectly ?

    regards,
    Owen
    yeah, thats what Im thinking allright...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Well when I wanted to get NTL Broadband and Digital in Lucan they refused phonecalls and they just didnt cooperate. They promised that they would lay the cable line near our house at a certain time and they didnt. In my opinion they are a bunch of wasters.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    GreeBo wrote:
    ok, the gravy may have gotten a little congealed
    according to IrishISPspeedtest I am getting ~ 1MB/100k
    I *should* be on 3MB/300k
    Anyone else in the Knocklyon/Templeogue area got anything I can compare to?

    You just need to call them, this is set at their servers and they probably just made a mistakeit is easily fixed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Yah, I'll ring em when Im at home so I can check it
    They are open until 8pm, which is nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭CyberGhost


    ****e sorry, Imeant to say e30 a month, my bad, lol, if it was that much it would not be woth it at all, don't know how i messed that up :o



    fortunately, I have the best of both world juliuspret, cablesurf connection, while at home for the holidays and free college connection in my apartment, from CIT, at over 20Mbit/s and usually over a 1Mbit/s upload

    We don't actually have a download/upload counter built in but, i would say my our download each month is at least 50-60Gb

    collegespeed.jpg

    wow Fionn, you live every broadbandaholic's dream! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭Tech Pete


    I had the same problem
    Signed up for the 3MBit but was downloading at 110k.
    Rang them and they fixed it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭Marcopolo85


    Jakkass wrote:
    Well when I wanted to get NTL Broadband and Digital in Lucan they refused phonecalls and they just didnt cooperate. They promised that they would lay the cable line near our house at a certain time and they didnt. In my opinion they are a bunch of wasters.

    Looks like you're the exception to the rule in this forum.... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭Drapper


    Looks like you're the exception to the rule in this forum.... ;)

    And D15 is a no go area for NTL ! latency latect latecy!! but I believe there is upgrade works going on and D15 will be the envy for all !

    in yer dreams misses !! (me to NTL)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    Anyone else here with NTL get dropouts? Was happening me all weekend?

    The ready LED would start flashing constantly, instead of being on permanently, and then link would drop. Sometimes even the LED would go off altogether. Leave the modem off for a min, with ethernet unplugged, start up and wait for LED to go solid. Then plug ethernet in.

    This happened repeatedly for an hour or so and was completely wreckin my head, then it was fine again. Hasnt happened since sun bout 11am now.

    This happen often


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭causal


    GreeBo wrote:
    ok, the gravy may have gotten a little congealed
    according to IrishISPspeedtest I am getting ~ 1MB/100k
    I *should* be on 3MB/300k

    Did you check your modem config to see what it's connecting at?
    go to http://192.168.100.1 login with admin/admin or root/root
    click on the 'Operation / Configuration' link on the left
    and see what your upstream and downstream rates are

    causal


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭Drapper


    Shougeki wrote:
    Anyone else here with NTL get dropouts? Was happening me all weekend?

    The ready LED would start flashing constantly, instead of being on permanently, and then link would drop. Sometimes even the LED would go off altogether. Leave the modem off for a min, with ethernet unplugged, start up and wait for LED to go solid. Then plug ethernet in.

    This happened repeatedly for an hour or so and was completely wreckin my head, then it was fine again. Hasnt happened since sun bout 11am now.

    This happen often

    Location m8?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,016 ✭✭✭mad m


    Started having problems this evening,sync&rdy were constant which is A ok so im told.But not a website coming up until this very moment.

    Weird. Kimmage area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭wayne040576


    Shougeki wrote:
    Anyone else here with NTL get dropouts? Was happening me all weekend?

    The ready LED would start flashing constantly, instead of being on permanently, and then link would drop. Sometimes even the LED would go off altogether. Leave the modem off for a min, with ethernet unplugged, start up and wait for LED to go solid. Then plug ethernet in.

    This happened repeatedly for an hour or so and was completely wreckin my head, then it was fine again. Hasnt happened since sun bout 11am now.

    This happen often


    Yeah, It's been really bad here (Crumlin area). It was fine up until about 10pm last night then it just died. Having a hard time even getting an ip address, it is taking minutes to get one after a modem reset. Then the connection is very slow.
    It has taken me over 20 minutes to get this reply box to appear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,016 ✭✭✭mad m


    Yeah, It's been really bad here (Crumlin area). It was fine up until about 10pm last night then it just died. Having a hard time even getting an ip address, it is taking minutes to get one after a modem reset. Then the connection is very slow.
    It has taken me over 20 minutes to get this reply box to appear.

    Yeah Wayne had same problems like yourself it went totally dead for me lastnight around 11pm and nothing this evening when I came home from work. But now its motoring.I rang Ntl but they gave me the usual lingo....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭wayne040576


    Yeah, It's been really bad here (Crumlin area). It was fine up until about 10pm last night then it just died. Having a hard time even getting an ip address, it is taking minutes to get one after a modem reset. Then the connection is very slow.
    It has taken me over 20 minutes to get this reply box to appear.

    And as soon as I hit send on that message, it came back :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭wayne040576


    mad m wrote:
    Yeah Wayne had same problems like yourself it went totally dead for me lastnight around 11pm and nothing this evening when I came home from work. But now its motoring.I rang Ntl but they gave me the usual lingo....

    Strange. I couldn't get any sites to load up until a few minutes ago.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭Tech Pete


    Mine dropped twice tonight.

    [00:29] * Connecting to irc.quakenet.org (6668)
    -
    [00:29] * Unable to resolve server

    *Had to power cycle the modem.

    [00:31] * [10053] Software caused connection abort
    -
    [00:31] * Disconnected
    -
    [00:40] * Connecting to de.quakenet.org (6667)
    -
    [00:41] * Unable to resolve server

    If this keeps up im ringing the bastads!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭Nietzschean


    i'd be cheering ntl, cept those 180ms+ pings i was getting to boards.ie last night, very unstable...contention has become more and more of an issue over the past few months... can still get high speeds but pings r just getting unstable.. poor QoS...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    Im in D2 - temple Bar area.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭paulm17781


    I'm in Temple Bar too and I have had no problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    maybe NTL are doin a software upgrade? mine sez this:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,016 ✭✭✭mad m


    Mine has been down since 4pm till now....I rang them again and the Sync was constant and the Rdy was flashing.Ntl on end of phone said they will send someone out...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    rang them and they confirmed that I had been setup on the 1Mb package, its perfect now ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭causal


    GreeBo wrote:
    rang them and they confirmed that I had been setup on the 1Mb package, its perfect now ...
    Nice one.
    I wonder if they ever do it the other way - someone signs up for 1Mb but is accidently given 3Mb :D

    fwiw ntl tv went down in some areas of Dun Laoghaire last night for a short spell around 10pm'ish.

    causal


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