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Whats the worst poker play you have ever seen ?

  • 29-06-2005 7:49pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭


    Did anyone see Poker Den last night?
    I probably witnessed the worst play ever seen on TV. Do not read if you are screamish.

    Robert Cooper - shortstacked £6k - Q8
    Achilles K - £13k - KK

    Flop Q 8 2 rainbow

    Achilles - Bet £1k
    Robert Cooper - Fold


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Einstein


    what were the blinds?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭The Bollox


    I wouldn't call that the worst, although in fairness I have nothing to top it, but Achillies was still leading with a kicker, had there been no more K's, 8's or Q's Achillies would have won, but it was a bad move, anyone else would have seen it through to the river, or atleast the turn


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Achillies was behind his pair of Kings to Robert Cooper two pair (Q 8)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    What ? he floped a 2 pair and folded it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭The Bollox


    Dub13 wrote:
    Achillies was behind his pair of Kings to Robert Cooper two pair (Q 8)
    oh right, I didn't see that


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭BigDragon


    This is the worst read post I've ever seen.











    :D :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭careca


    BigDragon wrote:
    This is the worst read post I've ever seen.

    lol

    I was playing a cash game ,1/2 nlh on ppp. I got AKo on BB and raised to 10. Player on SB had called all raises all night with crap. He called again. Flop JQ4 rainbow. He checked I bet 10, thinking I was still ahead. He called. Trouble I think. Turn 10 giving me the nuts but flush draw. Happy days. He bets I reraise, he calls. River blank. He bets, I raise just enough to entice him in. He calls with 34o. WTF did he think I had. The only hands he could beat were 22 or A rag. I took about 100 off him.

    Next time I'm on the BB i get KK, he is the only player left and calls from the SB. I go all in for 200. I know this could be a brutal play but I was sure he would call. He did for his last 50 with rubbish and I take it off him. I wrote, worst player I have ever seen, in his player notes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭califano


    careca wrote:
    lol

    I wrote, worst player I have ever seen, in his player notes.


    lol
    he coild be setting you up for another time though! lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Dave


    I was playing in the Mayfair €30 about 3 weeks ago, and this guy called everything down to the river with 52o he hit a pair of 2s on the river where's the other guy had trips from the flop. By the end of it he had commited well over half his stack. Everyone at the table just laughed when he flipped them over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 375 ✭✭pokertroll


    Okay this is probably more of a bad beat story than anything else but I think my opponents play was shocking all the same.

    Playing the $99 rebuy (10k guaranteed) tournament on Paddy Power last night and there are 8 players left with 6 players being paid and the first prize being $4000.

    I am dominant chip leader for most of the game but took a beat on the final table to leave me still in the chip lead with 32k and second chip leader had about 30K.
    Blinds are 800-1600

    The second chip leader raises to 3200 from mid position and I find AQ in late position and decide to call. I didn't really rate this player as I had seen him make some ropey moves earlier on but am still worried that he may have AK or better due to the small size of the raise.

    The Flop is Q59.

    My opponent checked and I decided to check just in case he was in check raise mode with AA or KK. The turn was a 3 and my opponent checks again.

    Now I am pretty sure that I am ahead as he has now checked twice in a row - It is more his style to go all-in if he has a hand and is first to act

    I bet 7k and my opponent thinks for a while before he re-raises all-in. I am pretty sure I'm ahead so call with my AQ and he shows 77.

    So he is commiting suicide against the chip leader with 2 overcards on the board and just 2 people short of the money (6th place was a reasonable $600) with only 2 outs in the deck.

    The river is a 7 and this guy is now a significant chip leader with over 60k.
    I didn't have enough chips to make the money and am still shocked.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    I was once called down by a player holding with 8 high at the final table of a PS limit holdem tournament. He said it was worth it just to see what I was jamming with. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    pokertroll wrote:
    The river is a 7 and this guy is now a significant chip leader with over 60k.I didn't have enough chips to make the money and am still shocked.

    That one's not so bad since he was the aggressor. (although still very stupid) but I had a similar situation where I check raised both flop and turn with KQ on a board with came x x Q K and got him all in. He calls with 99 and hits a two outer on the river. Aaaaargh!! WTF did the fuktard I was betting with?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭califano


    Whats this play all about
    It happens occasionally in heads up mostly but sometimes STT's and MTT's when it boils down to two.

    Typical example below:

    Board Cards 9h 2c 7c Qc Ad

    I have 7 6 opponent has Kc4c

    i bet post flop he calls
    i small bet on the turn card he calls
    I check the river and he checks the river??
    he wins with flush

    why did he check the river and not bet it out?
    I can only think that perhaps he doesnt realise he has a K high flush. Surely he couldnt be afraid ive made an A high flush?.
    I just cant understand why they dont try to bet out on the river. Not that im complaining!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,352 ✭✭✭Ardent


    Whats this play all about
    It happens occasionally in heads up mostly but sometimes STT's and MTT's when it boils down to two.

    Typical example below:

    Board Cards 9h 2c 7c Qc Ad

    I have 7 6 opponent has Kc4c

    i bet post flop he calls
    i small bet on the turn card he calls
    I check the river and he checks the river??
    he wins with flush

    why did he check the river and not bet it out?
    I can only think that perhaps he doesnt realise he has a K high flush. Surely he couldnt be afraid ive made an A high flush?.
    I just cant understand why they dont try to bet out on the river. Not that im complaining!.

    Maybe he was hoping for you to move on the river and hit you with a re-raise?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭califano


    Ardent wrote:
    Maybe he was hoping for you to move on the river and hit you with a re-raise?

    Exactly but the thing is thats fine if i was last to act and raised for him to check-raise but in these occasions im on about when he is last to act after i checked first on the river. he doesnt even try a raise when he could have got a bit more even with a minumun raise. except he checks and the hand is over and he wins. im thinking "thanks for not taking more chips".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Dave


    Yeah I've seen this alot on online poker. I was playing table once where alot of the time the guy was BB and no one would bet into him so he'd just fold the cards instead of checking for a free flop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    pokertroll wrote:
    Okay this is probably more of a bad beat story than anything else but I think my opponents play was shocking all the same.

    Thats bad play no doubt but to be fair your check on the flop confused him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭califano


    Dave wrote:
    Yeah I've seen this alot on online poker. I was playing table once where alot of the time the guy was BB and no one would bet into him so he'd just fold the cards instead of checking for a free flop.

    The play you mentioned here is even worse because a prompt comes up telling the player he can check for free so to ignore this is even worse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 375 ✭✭pokertroll


    Thats bad play no doubt but to be fair your check on the flop confused him.

    Agreed - I wanted to confuse him so that he would give me all his chips. I just didn't account for him hitting his 2 outer on the river.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 204 ✭✭Rodge


    Last night on .1/.25 NL Party Poker playing what had seemed to be a solid player. He minimum raised the blind from the button, SB called and I had 56 hearts so I thought good value here and called.

    Flop came down As 5d Js
    SB checked
    I checked
    Button checked.

    Turn 6s

    SB checked
    I bet .5
    Button calls
    SB folds

    River 6d to give me a full house

    I bet the pot $2.50 and the buttons immediately goes all in for another $37. I had him covered, just barely. After thinking about I decided I have to call, I just couldnt put him on a hand that had me beat. I called and he flipped over AJ for two pair.

    Allin for 148BB's with two pair on a flush and paired board?

    Madness


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭Fatboydim


    Whats this play all about

    why did he check the river and not bet it out?
    I can only think that perhaps he doesnt realise he has a K high flush. Surely he couldnt be afraid ive made an A high flush?.
    I just cant understand why they dont try to bet out on the river. Not that im complaining!.

    If he's a good player he's probably doing it to see what cards you were playing with - assuming that you were scared of the flush and wouldn't call any bet he made. Sometimes you will see a player like Negeanu calling on the end when he knows he's beat - just because he wants information.

    But maybe that is expecting too much - I assume the game was online - and as such anything could have happened - He could have been in a crucial hand on another table for example... Same thing happened to me a little while ago I went all in with AK on an MTT where I was on the bubble. At the same time I was on BB in an STT with K9 and the flop came K99 I raised a suitable amount and returned my attention to the all in with AK on the MTT. Not realising that on the STT the guy had reraised me... I timed out on the STT and he took the pot because I got called by AJ on the MTT and the bast -ard hit a J on the river - So point being maybe we sometimes read too much into peoples actions in online games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭califano


    Fatboydim wrote:
    If he's a good player he's probably doing it to see what cards you were playing with - assuming that you were scared of the flush and wouldn't call any bet he made. Sometimes you will see a player like Negeanu calling on the end when he knows he's beat - just because he wants information.

    But maybe that is expecting too much - I assume the game was online - and as such anything could have happened - He could have been in a crucial hand on another table for example... Same thing happened to me a little while ago I went all in with AK on an MTT where I was on the bubble. At the same time I was on BB in an STT with K9 and the flop came K99 I raised a suitable amount and returned my attention to the all in with AK on the MTT. Not realising that on the STT the guy had reraised me... I timed out on the STT and he took the pot because I got called by AJ on the MTT and the bast -ard hit a J on the river - So point being maybe we sometimes read too much into peoples actions in online games.


    Yeah thats reasonable enough to believe (it was online). But the negranu thing about him just wanting to see what i had i dont think is possible because i had 'muck hand' selected so when i check on river and he checks after me with his flush he just sees my hand being mucked. Yeah he would see my cards if i raised and he only called but i didnt raise so therefore my option to 'muck hand' kicks in where it wouldnt if i had raised and he plain called?.
    btw well played in the connaught cup and i seen you doing well in a big mtt on ppp a few days ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    Heard about one of the Irish rugby players folding to a raise, with 6666A on the board in the Irish open. Though he had kicker problems??

    Idiot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭Fatboydim


    Worst play I've been a victim of:

    Final two tables of Cork Super Sat in the IPT - We're all in the money and I get QQ in early position. Blinds I think were 2k 4k with 600 ante. I raise and make it 20k to go. Only caller is SB. Flop come K44 rainbow. SB thinks and thinks decides to check. I do not believe he is check raising. I don't believe he has a K or a 4. So I bet 20k again. I've now put in 40k of my 70k stack. He has put in 20k [2k of which was SB] of a 75k stack. He can easily walk away. He thinks and thinks and I'm about to put a clock on him but in all honesty at this point I want him to call as I figure he's on AJ or AQ at best. He re-raises to 40k. [This is the part where I think he has played badly] I go all in - as I can see the raise is not a confident one. Once more he thinks… it’s 10k more to him - If he calls and loses he’s out of the game. If he wins he’s chip leader. If I win I’m chip leader. He calls but with the immortal words… “You’ve probably got the king but I call.” I tell him I don’t have the king but it’s just as good – showing my queens… He then swears [seeing the queens] and complains to his mates that he couldn’t get me off the hand. Turn no help… River is an Ace.

    His calling my all in is inevitable once he’s bet that far – But going back to the re-raise after the flop – What was he thinking? My raise from early position meant I had a hand… It was enough to invite play - Too much for speculative play – which meant I was either on high cards AK, AQ or high pair AA KK QQ – maybe JJ – but would usually rule out low and mid pocket pairs. Betting over half my stack was a big clue that I had a hand and wasn’t worried by the flop. If he put me on an ace the best he could hope for is a split pot. – In the end he played the hand badly and won… But that is as we say poker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭Fatboydim


    Yeah thats reasonable enough to believe (it was online). btw well played in the connaught cup and i seen you doing well in a big mtt on ppp a few days ago.


    Thanks for that - Though I think that was the tourney where my AK got sucked out and I finished on the bubble lol.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭califano


    Fatboydim wrote:
    Thanks for that - Though I think that was the tourney where my AK got sucked out and I finished on the bubble lol.

    :D

    Ah thats crap luck. I was sure you at least made the money. When i logged on and seen the leaderboard you were something like 3rd-5th chip leader and i went to bed soon after so just presumed. ouch but wp anyway. I seem to see the same players vying for the lead regularly in those big rebuys, that 'RabidRat' is something else he's always thereabouts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    At the winter festival in Cork Last year a guy reraised me all in (8K into a pot of about 500) on a board A J x x rainbow, splashed his chips all over the ****in' place. Did somebody say "open book". I threw my AQ up on the table and he turns over pocket Jacks saying he didn't want me drawing to another Ace.

    Aparrantly he didn't realise another Ace would have given him a boat. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭Fatboydim


    NickyOD wrote:
    At the winter festival in Cork Last year a guy reraised me all in (8K into a pot of about 500) on a board A J x x rainbow, splashed his chips all over the ****in' place. Did somebody say "open book". I threw my AQ up on the table and he turns over pocket Jacks saying he didn't want me drawing to another Ace.

    Aparrantly he didn't realise another Ace would have given him a boat. :rolleyes:

    LMAO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Dave


    I was watching tv on poker last night, Poker NIght Live, if any of ye watch it, they were watching some Sit n' Go and it was level II. Anyway the cards are dealt out, KK raises a nice bit pre flop, AA..... folds.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Luckychip


    Just for the record these are the facts of the Q 8 vs KK on the Den

    Achilleas was on the button and did not raise Robert was big blind, flop came Q 4 8 rainbow, Robert bet out £1000.00 Achilleas came over the top for £3000.00 more (£4000.00 total bet), Robert thought Achilleas must had hits trip fours so folded, even though Robert was in front the board could have bought a King or paired the four on runner runner which means Robert would have lost, what seems a bad fold could have turned out to be a bad beat and all you poker players out there should know about bad beats!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    ^^^ Still though, what more do you want when your short stacked. Throwing away 2 pair's ? Crazy.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 203 ✭✭Vamos


    Worst play I've seen was in a cash game in the Macau. A 3 way hand with about 350 in the middle. The river brings a Ace high straight on the board with no flush possibilties. One guy goes allin, other calls and starts laughing, third guy FOLDS.
    Also had the nuts checked to me 3 times on Party omaha where the guy holding the nuts was last to act.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭ocallagh


    a bit off topic, but what's the worst hand u have ever won with?

    I was pissed in the states a few weeks back. it was my last night and wanted one more game of poker.. so at about 4am i head down to the cash tables in the main wsop room in the Rio and sit down at 2-4 NL. My flight was at 8.30am so i figured I'd play every hand to make the trip worth it.. I have little to no respect at the table..
    I turn $300 into about $900 (dbl up with AA vs 99 with 9 on flop.. i river an A after all the money goes in on the flop :))
    Anyway, I see 72o in first pos. I duly raise to about 25 i think and get called by the big blind. The flop is A34. BB bets about $40 or somethng. I figure f he has a decent A he'll let me do the betting.. so I put him all in for another $160. He thinks and calls!! doh.. but he flips over his cards to reveal 56o! Str8 draw. Turn is a T and river is a Q.. I take down a pot of over $400 with 7 high!! About 2 minutes later the table fills up and the guys order me another beer.. I play a few more hands and get out of there... $800 up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭DapperGent


    Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes 
    [STT] $25 NL 3944028-36 Holdem No Limit 100/200 
    [Jul 22 18:24:27] : Hand Start. 
    [Jul 22 18:24:27] : Seat 1 : jambo has $3,310 
    [Jul 22 18:24:27] : Seat 2 : gaelic has $1,170 
    [Jul 22 18:24:27] : Seat 4 : soggysat has $4,490 
    [Jul 22 18:24:27] : Seat 5 : DapperG has $1,230 
    [Jul 22 18:24:27] : Seat 6 : diamondbak has $3,070 
    [Jul 22 18:24:27] : Seat 8 : tony1984 has $3,080 
    [Jul 22 18:24:27] : Seat 9 : frankiedes has $1,650 
    [Jul 22 18:24:27] : soggysat is the dealer. 
    [Jul 22 18:24:27] : DapperG posted small blind. 
    [Jul 22 18:24:27] : diamondbak posted big blind. 
    [Jul 22 18:24:27] : Game [36] started with 7 players. 
    [Jul 22 18:24:27] : Dealing Hole Cards. 
    [Jul 22 18:24:27] : Seat 5 : DapperG has Ks Tc 
    [Jul 22 18:24:29] : tony1984 folded. 
    [Jul 22 18:24:30] : frankiedes called 200 
    [Jul 22 18:24:34] : jambo called 200 
    [Jul 22 18:24:34] : gaelic folded. 
    [Jul 22 18:24:37] : soggysat folded. 
    [Jul 22 18:24:39] : DapperG called 100 
    [Jul 22 18:24:41] : diamondbak checked. 
    [Jul 22 18:24:41] : Dealing flop. 
    [Jul 22 18:24:41] : Board cards [Qs 5s 8s] 
    [Jul 22 18:24:43] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 3 min.  
    [Jul 22 18:24:44] : DapperG checked. 
    [Jul 22 18:24:45] : diamondbak checked. 
    [Jul 22 18:24:48] : frankiedes bet 800 
    [Jul 22 18:24:50] : jambo folded. 
    [Jul 22 18:24:56] : DapperG called 800 and raised 230 and is All-in 
    [Jul 22 18:24:56] : Under-Raise rules are now in effect. 
    [Jul 22 18:24:56] : diamondbak folded. 
    [Jul 22 18:25:03] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 3 min.  
    [Jul 22 18:25:11] : frankiedes has 10 seconds to respond. 
    [Jul 22 18:25:17] : frankiedes folded. 
    [Jul 22 18:25:18] : DapperG wins 2,400 as the last player standing 
    [Jul 22 18:25:20] : Hand is over. 
    [Jul 22 18:25:21] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 3 min.  
    


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 680 ✭✭✭Amaru


    In a speed heads up match, and other player has 400, blinds had rapidly crept up to 150/300, i'm in the SB. With the blinds taken out, i raised him all in for his last 100 to put him out of his misery. Pretty much the cards don't matter at this point and its an easy call right? right?! Apparently not, because he folded instead. I was visibly shocked.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,647 ✭✭✭impr0v


    Finished a $25stt on VC there a few hours ago, down to four handed and the chip leader is about 4k clear of the other three, having caught a few cards earlier. About 15 hands later he's out on the bubble having seen every flop and p*ssing it all away chasing cards and representing hands he obviously didn't have, it was shameful.


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