Gaming pc

Headshot

lads im thinking of getting a new pc somthing powerful enough to play half life 2 and up and coming games on high res

i just want to know what price range am i looking at here

i have good monitor a hp pavilion f1523

i dont know much about pc's so bare with me

TerrorFirmer

If you are looking for top of the range, it depends whether you building it yourself or ordering whole unit from dell?

Id say you could build something very decent yourself for about 800/900,

But add several hundred onto that for a similar spec machine already assembled by Dell

Are you talking decent respectable or gaming monster of a pc?

Headshot

its going to be a built one

respectable

somthing i dont have to upgrade for a lest 2 yrs

unklerosco

how much money have u to spend...

WizZard

unklerosco wrote:

how much money have u to spend...

This really is the first (and only) question you need to ask!

tman

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote:

i dont know much about pc's so bare with me

/me strips

nothing like a spot of nekkid component recommending

TerrorFirmer

tman wrote:

/me strips

nothing like a spot of nekkid component recommending

/stretches over a table, balls hanging down

Hmm...now, here we have the 8x agp...

Vikings

I always though my next computer would be custom built but I think i'll get the machine from hell off jes.de. Or at least the latest incarnation of the machine when i have the dosh.

Headshot

around 800

ill be selling my psp plus games and my old pc

Nukem

Thinkin you could get a good system for that (without OC'ing?)- scanvage your old comp for parts if its an option and keep the price down. Just pick up a 2nd hand case and PSU and get a decent GFX and CPU and some good RAM. Loads of good deals at the mo ie 269 for an AGP 6800gt at JES. Should look around and check back with your shopping list.

Nukem

unklerosco

secondhand is ur best bet... ie. mine http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=272776

Take the gfx card off(-€100) n get urself a 6800gt r similar n u'll have a fairly fast pc. Only thing is upgrading over time... AGP cards are getting scarce(ie. 7800gtx is said not to have an AGP model, mind u that card cost nearly what u have to spend)

Technology is changing quite fast, god knows where we'll be in two years. I figure my trusty P4 will keep me going till this time next year easily...

Nukem

Blatant plug but i concur. What he says make sense would be a cracking rig for the money. Sh!te how come no one ever suggest stuff like this to me :mad: spent a fortune on a rig simialr thats alrady outta date *double* :mad::mad: (ah but theres always crossfire:p)

Nukem

EDIT: Rosco just saw your post on the 6800gt at OCuk now thats keeping the price down

StRiKeR

yea 800 wouldnt really get a machine that neednt upgrade for 2 years if its for gaming, since the games are looking for more and more power nowdays, I think anyway, I notice that from playin Prince Of Persia 2 Warrior Within for 10mintues on my P4 clocked at 4012MHz with 2Gigs 533 DDR2 and the 6800gt PCI-E at 440/1200 the system on watercool, and everything is nice and smooth, when playing on my A64 3200+ with a AGP 6800GT at stock speed still runing well but on the P4 3.4 with a FX5600 at stock speed it was a bit like slow motion, and that isnt suppose to be a power hungry game! or is it? been a bit out of date on games and spec for a while, too busy at work! but secondhand is a good idea!

unklerosco

It depends on what settings ur playing the game at... Stick ur 6800gt into ur P4 with the FX5600 n im sure the game will run a hell of allot better. There's a big big difference between the two cards...

Headshot

is this a good pc

Abit IC7-G Replaced the NB cooler with a Microcool Northpole cooler, works fine with fan off, i only ever turned it on for overclocking...
Intel Prescot 3.2P4 w thermaltake copper heatsink
1gig twinmos PC3200 ram
9800pro W/Zalman Heatsink
Segate 160GB sata HD
Antec Sonata case w silent Jeantech 420w PSU
Dvd rom


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will it run today and tomorrow games easy on high res

jozi

That 9800pro is getting old at this stage, you should be looking more at a 6600gt or up wards.
Tbh you should prob put agp based boards out of your head and get a pcie board. As mentiond above the new get of nvidia card is likelly not to be produced on agp platform.
Not sure with the mobo & cpu i have a amd and know nowt about intel cpu's.
gig of ram is plenty.

will it run today and tomorrow games easy on high res

Not at high res

TerrorFirmer

jozi wrote:

That 9800pro is getting old at this stage, you should be looking more at a 6600gt or up wards.
Tbh you should prob put agp based boards out of your head and get a pcie board. As mentiond above the new get of nvidia card is likelly not to be produced on agp platform.
Not sure with the mobo & cpu i have a amd and know nowt about intel cpu's.
gig of ram is plenty.


Not at high res

I have almost the exact same setup except with an x800se. Runs all of todays games bar maybe BF2 at max everything. (BF2 almost there)

A friend has something similar to this, and the 9800pro is more then capable at playing all games currently out again, apart from maybe BF2, at very close to max res - ie still at very pretty visual quality

savemejebus

The sonata case is fantastic, however I don't know about the Jeantech psu if you're gonna be plugging in a 6800 at some stage.

Headshot

savemejebus wrote:

however I don't know about the Jeantech psu if you're gonna be plugging in a 6800 at some stage.

why do you think that

savemejebus

From what i've read the 6800 is a power hungry card, and, although I could be off the mark here, Jeantech don't seem to be the most well respected psu manufacturer. They are a bit above Qtec but nowhere near antec/fortron/tagan etc territory.

Having said that I had a 300w jeantech psu in a low power system and had no problems with it but when you're spending big money on parts and a gfx card you don't want to skimp on the one item that can turn all your hardware to smouldering plastic.

Also, when i was researching building a computer here last year I was advised first and foremost to get a really good case/psu and so I guess i'm mirroring the advice i've gotten here over the months.

Headshot

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote:

Abit IC7-G Replaced the NB cooler with a Microcool Northpole cooler, works fine with fan off, i only ever turned it on for overclocking...
Intel Prescot 3.2P4 w thermaltake copper heatsink
1gig twinmos PC3200 ram
9800pro W/Zalman Heatsink
Segate 160GB sata HD
Antec Sonata case w silent Jeantech 420w PSU
Dvd rom

is this a good enough pc for games and is it easily upgraded
and what the weakess part of the pc

TerrorFirmer

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote:

is this a good enough pc for games and is it easily upgraded
and what the weakess part of the pc

Yes, it is decent enough.

The 9800pro will need be replaced soon for new games if you want to run them at high resolution, but the processor and ram are fine. The ram can easily be upgraded in any case when required.

So I suppose the "weakness" is the gfx card....but overall a solid pc

Headshot

so do people on boards think i can get a cheaper a better pc if i build it my self

where can i get cheap parts

DemonOfTheFall

Theres a sticky at the top of the board telling you to never ask where to get cheap parts, lol.

www.komplett.ie is where I get everything. Other than that
www.overclock.co.uk
www.jes.de

Dooom

Add to that:

Comtech.de

They're basically the same as JES but a few Euro cheaper.

Also, check out:
Performance PCs
Cooled Cases

HungryJoey

I wouldn't go with a 9800Pro these days. I mean they have no problem playing anything, Plas stuff pretty well but Mine anywa is starting to loose its power if you know what i mean. Its starting to feel ages. Its pretty amazing still though but old I am seriously thinking of getting a 6800GT on Jes soon though. I would go for a 6600GT atleast dude if ure gonne buy a new PC. 9800Pro although i hate saying it, but its old stuff.

uberpixie

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote:

so do people on boards think i can get a cheaper a better pc if i build it my self

where can i get cheap parts

This is only an example, but this is what you can roughly build for 800 Euro.

Gigabyte nforce 4 mobo (no sli) pci express etc... 103 euro
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=307571&s=sc

amd 64 3000+ with heat sink 155.00 euro
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=307201&s=sc

1 gig of twinmos bog ram cas2.5 107 euro
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=118498&s=sc

Antec sonata case + 380w quite power supply 119 euro
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=305069&s=sc

club 3d 6600GT 184 euro
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=307935&s=sc

Nec dual layer burner 51.50 euro
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=309415&s=sc
(an example pick what ever burner you want)

seagate 160 gig IDE 7200rpm harddrive 85.00 euro
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=121189&s=sc
(again an example of price, get what ever brand hardrive you want, would recommend you get an ide harddrive as they are easier to setup for newbies than sata, up to you though)

Total 804 euro + shipping

All prices from komplett.ie as of 29th jun 2005.

You may also need an os: an EXTRA 85 euro on top for xp home on komplett.
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=303203&cks=PRL


Overall atm amd 939 offers the best upgrade path. You can put in a dual core 939 cpu at a later date when they come down in price on almost any amd 939 motherboard as long as you update the bios.

You will also have pci express on the motherboard, no point getting agp now it's a dead format as far as most gfx card companies are concerned

Nvidia for example are claiming atm they will not release their 7800gtx in agp....

Headshot

hey lads what do ye think of these spec's

uberpixie helped me alot choicing the components etc so i like to thank him


amd64 3000+ boxed (this incl heatsink)
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=307201&s=sc

gigabyte nforce 4 motherboard (no sli)
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=307571&s=sc

ram:1 gig twinmos cas 2.5
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=118498&s=sc

hardrive: seagate 250gig IDE
(make sure you get the ide, less trouble to setup! than sata)
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=306378&s=sc

GFX card:6600GT by club3d 128mb
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=307935&s=sc

dvd burner: LG 16x speed
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=304302&s=sc

Case: antec sonata, comes with dacent 380w psu
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=305069&s=sc

adds up to 844 euro

what do ye think

savemejebus

I've got an almost identical setup to that (cpu, ram, gfx, case) and am very happy with it. No probs playing games and it's a nice looking quiet system. Had no problems using a sata drive but i guess that depends on the mobo.

One thing that you could check out if you're in a hurry to get the stuff is the prices of equivalent stuff on www.pixmania.com. Their DHL delivery is only a couple of euros more than Kompletts GLS