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Seats for the IPT final

  • 25-06-2005 02:35PM
    #1
    NickyOD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭


    Just got a report from a friend of mine who won a freeroll on VC which earned him a seat on the VC pub tour final. This was a 24 player feezeout held in the submarine bar today. The other finalists I believe all won their seats in the €10 freezeouts held on the pub trail in various bars around Dublin over the last month or so. Top 3 got tickets worth over 6K for the ITP final. WTF? I know which way I'd prefer to try and qualify.

    How can VC justify giving out IPT final tickets in this event, when excellent players who made final tables of the pokerevents €275 supersats don't. Starting chips for this event were 8000. Level 1 was 100/200. Ugh! My friend wen out fairly early. He went all in for 6K with Aces and was called buy J-8 which made a straight. The standard was appauling. No one there even knew how to play the game and the winner gets ticket to the IPT FINAL!! They'll be eaten alive at that event. What a ****ing disgrace.


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  • #2
    ZZR1100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭ZZR1100


    any idea of the names of the people who won the 3 tickets and were they all bad players


  • #3
    Hitman Actual
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    Yep, I was surprised (to put it mildly) that three tickets were on offer for the 6K event. I think that entries into the 275euro events were as much as these players should really have been given, although maybe that has been happening as well? But THREE 6K tickets towards a 16-player 100K event, ffs!! And to think that players such as Joe O'Neill, Adrian Walshe, Dave O'Callaghan, Pat Crowe and Roy Brindley made the last three tables of a 240 player event, and came away with feck all... it's a bit of an insult.

    What's worse, one of these players could fluke their way through to pull off a surprise win. Three fishies means three times as many crappy outdraws possible, so someone is going to end up with a huge stack...


  • #4
    NickyOD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    I'm 99% certain that the original allocation for the IPT final was going to be 9 seats from the supersats and 7 online qualifiers or maybe 6 online and 1 from the pub tour. Whoever had the wonderful idea of giving changing this and giving 3 tickets for the pub tour finalists should be shot.


  • #5
    Pokerevents
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Pokerevents


    I´m away for the weekend but just got a report on the pub final, as we were asked to run the final even though we had nothing to do with the the pub challenge project itself.
    The standard was absolutly brutal. 8 players knocked out in 30mins. I dont have the names of the players who qualified but I know they will have their work cut out for them in the 100k final.
    This 16 player only final always had 9 players from pokerevents super sats, 4 from v.c super-sat 16th july on-line, and 3 from this pub challenge which was designed to bring in brand new players to poker thus the justification of spend for pub players. Anyway it makes good news for all qualifiers as pub players will be rank outsiders.(good luck to them)


  • #6
    Benglian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 105 ✭✭Benglian


    NickyOD wrote:
    Just got a report from a friend of mine who won a freeroll on VC which earned him a seat on the VC pub tour final. This was a 24 player feezeout held in the submarine bar today. The other finalists I believe all won their seats in the €10 freezeouts held on the pub trail in various bars around Dublin over the last month or so. Top 3 got tickets worth over 6K for the ITP final. WTF? I know which way I'd prefer to try and qualify.

    How can VC justify giving out IPT final tickets in this event, when excellent players who made final tables of the pokerevents €275 supersats don't. Starting chips for this event were 8000. Level 1 was 100/200. Ugh! My friend wen out fairly early. He went all in for 6K with Aces and was called buy J-8 which made a straight. The standard was appauling. No one there even knew how to play the game and the winner gets ticket to the IPT FINAL!! They'll be eaten alive at that event. What a ****ing disgrace.

    I was in this final after winning the first VC pub poker game.
    I won't comment too much on the actual 3 table final, as I played like a complete muppet and went out 21st, when i went up against the only other person at the table I reckoned (saw him fold pre-flop more than once!)could actually play). What a muppet I am, I am sick...
    I agree I don't know if they can justify 3 seats to the IPT final from this, as I too played in Citywest, and yes I know good players from there would wipe the floor with the pub muppets.

    BUT...

    To say that no-one there knew how to play the game is wrong. I do. I make more money playing than i do working. I also saw another Fitz regular there who DEFINATELY knows how to play.
    And where did th €6k ticket come from? Presumably VC poker are sponsoring them...as it didn't come from the pub prize pools, or the tour events, did it? So I say let them put in who they like.
    And do I hear a hint of jealousy creeping in there somewhere? These people all came through a field of 120 players, from 26 heats(there were 2 no-shows). So they allocated 3 tickets from 3120 initial players. Is that too much then? Give the guys a break... And I saw good luck to them...if they go on to win it. The point about poker is that there is a degree of luck involved, that's why poor players keep coming back, because even they can get lucky and win sometimes...and these are the ones that pay my wages.

    Don't knock it.

    The bottom line is....If you want to play a total skill game, TAKE UP CHESS.


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  • #7
    NickyOD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    :rolleyes:
    Benglian wrote:
    I agree I don't know if they can justify 3 seats to the IPT final from this, as I too played in Citywest, and yes I know good players from there would wipe the floor with the pub muppets..

    I don't get this, you said you agree that they shouldn't have given out 3 IPT Final tickets but then you go on to try and justify it and tell me not to knock it.
    Benglian wrote:
    I played like a complete muppet and went out 21st, What a muppet I am, I am sick... To say that no-one there knew how to play the game is wrong. I do. I make more money playing than i do working...

    Well those comments came from a freind of mine who played. They're not really my opinion but I would consider him very reliable. Since you make more than an average wage in your spare time from poker and yet you played like a muppet I guess his comments are justified since there wasn't any evidence of solid play from anyone in the tournament.

    Benglian wrote:
    And do I hear a hint of jealousy creeping in there somewhere? ...

    No, you don't.

    Benglian wrote:
    These people all came through a field of 120 players, from 26 heats(there were 2 no-shows). So they allocated 3 tickets from 3120 initial players. Is that too much then? Give the guys a break... ...

    Some of the fields were nowhere near this big and some were online qualifiers. My friend made the final through a 30 player qualifier on VC which was a FREEROLL!!

    Benglian wrote:
    ...and these are the ones that pay my wages....

    :rolleyes:


  • #8
    califano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,450 ✭✭✭califano


    I think these players deserve their tickets even if they were just turbo pub games they qualified from.
    Everyone knew the prizes before these pub games started so no point crowing about it now.
    Roy Brindley and the like that were mentioned above can afford to be buying into these main events from the hip anyway so whats wrong with a few lads who might never ordinarily get a chance to play in one of these big events having a go just once in their lives.


  • #9
    NickyOD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    VC ran 30 player online freerolls to a 26 (minus 2) player superstelite run in a pub which offered 3 tickets to a 100K Gtd. event!

    BUT.. They also ran $3 rebuys to the $275 suopersats. There were $50 live satelites to same satelites. 3 tickets were also awarded at these supersatelites but these were 150, 180, and 240 player 2 day events. The $275 saupersats had the same ticket allocation as the pub tournatment. That's ridiculous.

    I don't want to begrudge the players who qulaified the easy way, but there's no way I'm going to agree that they deserve to be there as much as the likes of Joe O'Neil, Lauren Szidak, Roy Brindley who basically outplayed 95% of a very strong field in IPT supersats and came away with so much less.

    Most importantly the prizepool for the Pub supersat was not accumulated totally from mini pub satelites, not even close. VC put up the money themselves. That's an real insult to the qualifiers from the big supersats in my view.


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