can anyone stop kilkenny?

jobless

with the leinster hurling final on the horizon....does anyone think kilkenny will be stopped from winning this let alone the all ireland?......myself i think they are absolute certs for the all ireland this year....they wont let up against any team as proven against Offaly

McClane

with the leinster hurling final on the horizon....does anyone think kilkenny will be stopped from winning this let alone the all ireland?

In all fairness i'm getting sick of this hypeing KK crap. Yes they're a very good team, they're one of the best 3 in the country but they're not some unstoppable force of nature. Leinster is an easy Championship compared to Munster.

The media are hyping them up to standards they never reached. DJ Carey IS a great player. Does he deserve to be metioned beside Christy Ring ? NO.
Shefflin is a brilliant forward, is he the best in the country ? Maybe but its very far from a one horse race. E Kelly of Tipp would be in my opinion the best. He simply doesn't have the other players around him like Shefflin does.

And J McGarry shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as B Cummins and D FitzHenry (Or Davy in his day). All this bull****e about him getting an All-Star, what did he ever do to deserve one ? I'd rate Donal Óg Cusack ahead of him and i don't rate Donal too high at all.

There is VERY little between Cork and Kilkenny this year and i predict a return to form for Tipp this year, after a slow start.

KnowItAll

jobless wrote:

with the leinster hurling final on the horizon....does anyone think kilkenny will be stopped from winning this let alone the all ireland?......myself i think they are absolute certs for the all ireland this year....they wont let up against any team as proven against Offaly

Is this the Kilkenny that was hammered by Cork last year?

Illkillya

jobless wrote:

with the leinster hurling final on the horizon....does anyone think kilkenny will be stopped from winning this let alone the all ireland?......myself i think they are absolute certs for the all ireland this year....they wont let up against any team as proven against Offaly

My advice to you is to do what your parents did - get a job.

nlgbbbblth

Wexford will have one thing on their minds next Sunday

- revenge -

for the 30 point hammering Kilkenny gave them in the league last April.

could be close

Repli

I agree, Wexford will beat them on Sunday *snigger*

jobless

jobless wrote:

with the leinster hurling final on the horizon....does anyone think kilkenny will be stopped from winning this let alone the all ireland?......myself i think they are absolute certs for the all ireland this year....they wont let up against any team as proven against Offaly

form my tipp perspective KK are an awesome team and have been going back as far as 1999. Only the element of luck has been the crucial factor in beating them the last year. On todays game it was proven that Cork have apparent weaknesses that tipp couldnt expose as such but KK will be able to. Personally i think the team who beats KK will win the AI but Cork will have tricks up their sleeve yet. Even tipp may upset the apple cart. Oh i dont think you could judge the Offaly game on KK's abilty and in fact it may harm the overall preparation of the team for the crunch ties

hawker

McClane wrote:

In all fairness i'm getting sick of this hypeing KK crap. Yes they're a very good team, they're one of the best 3 in the country but they're not some unstoppable force of nature. Leinster is an easy Championship compared to Munster.

The media are hyping them up to standards they never reached. DJ Carey IS a great player. Does he deserve to be metioned beside Christy Ring ? NO.
Shefflin is a brilliant forward, is he the best in the country ? Maybe but its very far from a one horse race. E Kelly of Tipp would be in my opinion the best. He simply doesn't have the other players around him like Shefflin does.

And J McGarry shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as B Cummins and D FitzHenry (Or Davy in his day). All this bull****e about him getting an All-Star, what did he ever do to deserve one ? I'd rate Donal Óg Cusack ahead of him and i don't rate Donal too high at all.

There is VERY little between Cork and Kilkenny this year and i predict a return to form for Tipp this year, after a slow start.

Question. Have you seen Christy Ring play a game of hurling?

Big Ears

jobless wrote:

with the leinster hurling final on the horizon....does anyone think kilkenny will be stopped from winning this let alone the all ireland?......myself i think they are absolute certs for the all ireland this year....they wont let up against any team as proven against Offaly

Proven.........against Offaly ?..................Offaly were beaten by Carlow in the league and are at about Dublins level .

List of teams that are capable of beating Kilkenny : Cork , Tipp , Waterford , Clare , Limerick , Wexford , Galway .

List of teams that will beat Kilkenny : Cork

Ive never see a team as overated as this Kilkenny side , I mean sure they're good and are well able to win All Irelands and be in contention every year but they are far from this incredible team who are unbeatable that many people make them out to be .

jobless

Big Ears wrote:

Proven.........against Offaly ?..................Offaly were beaten by Carlow in the league and are at about Dublins level .

List of teams that are capable of beating Kilkenny : Cork , Tipp , Waterford , Clare , Limerick , Wexford , Galway .

List of teams that will beat Kilkenny : Cork

Ive never see a team as overated as this Kilkenny side , I mean sure they're good and are well able to win All Irelands and be in contention every year but they are far from this incredible team who are unbeatable that many people make them out to be .

how can you say they are overrated?.....they've demolished anyone put in front of them this year.....They have greater strength in dept than cork and cork arent as good this year as last.
They wont have the same hunger as kilkenny this year and judging on yesterdays second half they are some big weaknesses in the side...
they had their year last year...this will be a maximum bet for me!

Big Ears

jobless wrote:

how can you say they are overrated?.....they've demolished anyone put in front of them this year.....They have greater strength in dept than cork and cork arent as good this year as last.
They wont have the same hunger as kilkenny this year and judging on yesterdays second half they are some big weaknesses in the side...
they had their year last year...this will be a maximum bet for me!

Yes they have demolished all the sides they have played in the Championship this year..........oh wait thats just offaly , how do you know Cork arent as good this year they won the Munster final last year they did not .Cork are only going to improve as the year goes on just like last year .

It seems to me you regard Cork winning(the All Ireland) as a fluke and that they are a mediocre side .

jobless

Big Ears wrote:

Yes they have demolished all the sides they have played in the Championship this year..........oh wait thats just offaly , how do you know Cork arent as good this year they won the Munster final last year they did not .Cork are only going to improve as the year goes on just like last year .

It seems to me you regard Cork winning(the All Ireland) as a fluke and that they are a mediocre side .

i think cork are a very good side....in fact they won me a few quid on saturday....i just think kilkenny will beat them this year...when they both reach the final!

Mighty_Mouse

Everyone thought Kilkenny were awesome last year coming into all-ireland final. Remember what they did to Galway.

Kilkenny had already had their so called "kick up the backside" by losing Leinster yet they still lost that an-ireland final. The reason? Cos Cork were so much better on the day.

Cork first half last sunday........awesome. Second half beatable by any of the big teams.

Personally I dont believe in unbeatable teams. There are some teams that play very well but they are all beatable on any given day. Kilkenny, Armagh proved this last year.

My point....................Kilkenny will need the same amount of luck every team needs to win an all-ireland.

Personally I think waterford, Tipp,Galway and Clare will have something left to say about the championship this year

River Allow

Hawker- Are you trying to say that DJ Carey is better than Christy Ring... do you know, that is actually quite funny! You're gas!!!!

Danno

If KK and Waterford meet, i predict the cats exit...

Waterford are due a big win this year and are def dark horses this year...

Flukey

After the 2003 result you could see Cork were on a mission last year. They disposed of Antrim and Wexford without sympathy. They had one objective in mind, and they achieved it. Maybe Kilkenny are that way this year too, but there is a lot of hurling left yet before we see where the Liam McCarthy Cup will spend the winter.

johnnyc

i dont know the draw but waterford will have a few games in the championship and if they meet kilkenny i recon they will beat them

cruiserweight

Danno wrote:

If KK and Waterford meet, i predict the cats exit...

Waterford are due a big win this year and are def dark horses this year...

With their full back line? The defence is Waterford's achilles heel and will result in their exit this year!

kkposse

If Kilkenny have the hunger, Kilkenny win, simple as, and this year they are out for revenge! its almost pre-ordained!

hawker

River Allow wrote:

Hawker- Are you trying to say that DJ Carey is better than Christy Ring... do you know, that is actually quite funny! You're gas!!!!

Maybe if you go back and read it you might understand that I didn't say anything like you are implying. Cork people (you included) seem to take pleasure in saying that Ring was better than Carey yet these people never saw Ring play. So how can they compare?

Carey is the best player of my generation. Maybe Ring was better but you or I cannot say for sure as we never witnessed Ringie playing at his best.

You are a student you never saw him play. Now I'd call that funnier!!

chern0byl

KnowItAll wrote:

Is this the Kilkenny that was hammered by Cork last year?

We certainly were not hammered. Very close contest in the first half and for about 10 minutes of the 2nd half. From there on, Cork had something extra.

nlgbbbblth wrote:

Wexford will have one thing on their minds next Sunday

- revenge -

for the 30 point hammering Kilkenny gave them in the league last April.

could be close

Well revenge is all Kilkenny will have on their minds too. Wexford knocked us out at the pervious round(i think) last year with a last minute goal(i think... ).

Kilkenny are too strong for Wexford. It will be a game for about 10 minutes. Leinster hurling is completely finished. I know its pretty cocky but the 1'st and 2'nd best teams in leinster are Kilkenny.

Norinoco

chern0byl wrote:

We certainly were not hammered. Very close contest in the first half and for about 10 minutes of the 2nd half. From there on, Cork had something extra.

Well revenge is all Kilkenny will have on their minds too. Wexford knocked us out at the pervious round(i think) last year with a last minute goal(i think... ).

Kilkenny are too strong for Wexford. It will be a game for about 10 minutes. Leinster hurling is completely finished. I know its pretty cocky but the 1'st and 2'nd best teams in leinster are Kilkenny.

Could not have said it better myself...

cruiserweight

We will have to wait and see on Sunday! The yellow bellies are always at their most dangerous when written off! What more motivation do they need!