tonight tips

revo

windsor 7.40 Emerald Lodge has too win 2/1

ripon 7.50 Briannsta im convinced this will win at 9/1 very safe ew bet

revo

god todays races are strange :mad:

logonapr

Stick with the day job!!

Both still running.

revo

funny ey.. weres your tips ???

fade2black

Unlucky Revo, you'll catch em again. (Monday and Tuesday are notorious bad days though)

Fandango

revo wrote:

god todays races are strange :mad:

Cant win em all, and no need for remarks if a tip doesnt come in Logon. We all know how mad evening racing can be.

Morgans

Constructive criticism here - the day of the week has nothing to do with selecting the wrong horse.

You can never do too much study of horse racing form. Races that seem strange now invariably make more sense the more you find out about horses.

fade2black

Yes but, and i'll be very surprised it you don't acknowledge this morgans....Mondays and Tuesdays generally provide the worst racing for any given week and the stats will prove that it is these days that are most difficult for punters because form rarely stands up and horses who, by right, should have little chance on all known evidence will continually pop up an win. It's not about offering excuses, poor racing is always best left alone and anyone will tell you that.

Morgans

The racing last Tuesday wasnt too bad. In fact, the first day of many festivals throughout the summer begin on a Tuesday. But of course that is an exception.

In general, if you want to stick to rules do so, and not betting in lesser class of racing is a good one. However, this rule should apply to Saturday racing just as much as any other day. A good bet is just as likely to occur on a Monday as it is on a Saturday, and I take the point that there are more surprise winners in poor racing, but it has nothing to do with the day of the week. If the same race was run on a Friday, the result would be the same.

fade2black

I think you know what my first reply to this is going to be. Of course there are many exceptions as many of the top festivals such as Cheltenham and Ascot start on a Tuesday but we're now in a time where there are more races and meetings then ever before and if you're going to have a bet, it's a lot safer to get in a race that where you think you have a fairly good idea how each horse SHOULD run. This very rarely occurs in poor racing although with some all weather racing, usually towards the end of the week, we see horses who are regulars to the track and we can analyse factors such as their last winning mark, trip/track suitability etc.

The only point I was making is that finding a winner is hard, but I'm certain that finding one on a Monday or Tuesday is a lot harder than finding one on a thursday friday or saturday.

Morgans

I'm certain that its not. We will have to agree to differ. Poor racing is poor racing whatever day of the week it is on.

This very rarely occurs in poor racing although with some all weather racing, usually towards the end of the week, we see horses who are regulars to the track and we can analyse factors such as their last winning mark, trip/track suitability etc.

I cant see why this is possible on a Friday and not on a Monday. There is one possible difference, but I dont think its what you are driving at.

Hobart

Lads and Lassies. There has been a mini spate of baiting going on over the last couple of weeks wrt tips. Please remember the following:

1) Tips are "mostly" given in good faith.
2) Nobody is standing beside you with a gun to your head forcing you to click the "yes I'm sure" button on betfred or paddy power.
3) If you loose it's your own fucking hard luck. Let us know by all means, but don't blame anybody here for your own mis-fortune.
4) When giving tips, please try and give some background as to why you are tipping that particular horse/jockey/owner etc... Good examples of this can be seen all over this board with tipsters like fade and Morgans.
5) Do not loose your sense of humour module. This is not a playground and if you are "genuinely hurt" by the meerest hint of sarcasm, put your hand around the back of the PC and pull out every lead you can get a hold of.
6) The next person to willingly go out of their way to bait/flame or troll another user, because of a bad tip or otherwise, will be banned for 1 month from this board. Another infraction and the ban is permanent.

Thanks,

Hobart

fade2black

Morgans wrote:

I'm certain that its not. We will have to agree to differ. Poor racing is poor racing whatever day of the week it is on.



I cant see why this is possible on a Friday and not on a Monday. There is one possible difference, but I dont think its what you are driving at.

I guess really I'm just trying to come up with reasoning for what is, I suppose, a personal opinion. The Monday and Tuesday thing is just something I have as a personal rule. I would consider you to be one of the quality tippers on here and certainly don't doubt your ability to find a winner on any day, I just like to avoid the meetings that I see as "fodder", some of which are no better then virtual racing.

In saying that....lol...and I'm not going to have a bet on this myself....

MISS PATRICIA in the 3:00 at Brighton today is one we can make a case for...I realise I'm shooting myself in the foot with this one but if it doesn't win I can say...ah it's tuesday and if it does....well I picked a winner.

MISS PATRICIA - 2nd in her last 4 races...I don't think this is an animal that is perpetually unable to win as some of the form of his earlier efforts has been well advertised since. Takes a further drop in class today (Sure it's tuesday ;-) . Obviously enough, today's race is a maiden and one in which this horse should definitely win.





And thanks for that Hobart, I agree with all of it...I only get annoyed when someone who is not a regular to the forum pops up with some sarcastic comment about a tip, i.e REVO a few weeks back but now he's here a lot so I was very happy to defend him last night. I would happily take all comments, sarcastic or otherwise from the likes of yourself, Morgans, MasterK, Healio, goin to the ps, scargill, eirebhoy, Cyrus, Applehunter, Dabreno, tiedcottage, CiaranC, Fr wishy washy, the jock and a few that i'm probably leaving out.

Cyrus

Shucks feel like one of the 'guys' now

CiaranC

Morgans wrote:

I'm certain that its not. We will have to agree to differ. Poor racing is poor racing whatever day of the week it is on.

Yes, but there is generally far more poor racing on a Monday afternoon than there is on a Saturday, no?

scojones

fade2black wrote:

And thanks for that Hobart, I agree with all of it...I only get annoyed when someone who is not a regular to the forum pops up with some sarcastic comment about a tip, i.e REVO a few weeks back but now he's here a lot so I was very happy to defend him last night. I would happily take all comments, sarcastic or otherwise from the likes of yourself, Morgans, MasterK, Healio, goin to the ps, scargill, eirebhoy, Cyrus, Applehunter, Dabreno, tiedcottage, CiaranC, Fr wishy washy, the jock and a few that i'm probably leaving out.

Morgans

Yes, but there is generally far more poor racing on a Monday afternoon than there is on a Saturday, no?

Absolutely, what I am saying is that dont back in poor races. You should analyze a race and come to a decision on who to back independent of what day of the week it is.

I'll give some context to this. A lot of what Fade says has a lot of merit - class will out - the higher up the grades you are the more consistent the horses tend to be (not a hard and fast rule by any manner of means) but talking generally - and there is less chance of their being a shock result. The form will stand up better.

Every now and again, form doesnt work out for whatever reason and a poorer horse beats a better one. Inconsistent results happen more often in poorer races, yes, but there will plenty of worse races at the weekend that the two that Emerald Lodge or Brianasta ran in last night.

I do believe that the bottom team in the Conference has a better chance of beating the top team in the Conference than the bottom team in the premiership has of beating the top team in the premiership. However, whether they play them on a Saturday or a Monday doesnt matter in the slightest.

revo

fade2black wrote:

And thanks for that Hobart, I agree with all of it...I only get annoyed when someone who is not a regular to the forum pops up with some sarcastic comment about a tip, i.e REVO a few weeks back but now he's here a lot so I was very happy to defend him last night.

All i can say is THANK YOU. i now know what i did wrong , but as im sure its not nice too lose HAHAHAHAHA. so come on fade fill me in on this 3 o clock so we can kick some ass. :rolleyes:

masterK

I must be one of the few that actually likes Monday racing, Windsor every Monday night is now part of my weekly routine and I've been doing quite well. I find when you are watching racing at the same track week in week out you get a very good feeling of what attributes it takes to win at that track.

Even though there are usually quite large fields at Windsor it is very easy to dismiss most of them. It is important to be well drawn, not many horses come from behind to win and horses who have stamina over speed usually fair quite well. Also certain jockeys ride the track extremely well, Richard Hughes being top to my list even though he generally isn't a jockey I like.

What I try and stay away from is summer jumps, all weather racing during the flat season and 5 furlong sprints rather than racing on any particular day.

fade2black

And of course Sjones.....Sorry bud...my bad...

A lot of it is personal preference....people know what works for them now and what has done so in the past. If you feel that you are backing in poor races and keep getting let down by a 16-1 winner you have to ask yourself what's happening...did you just blindly back a favourite or did you make a case for a contender only for the one you crossed off first to win in a canter. It's true that there are some good races early week every now and again but as a personal preference I prefer to usually spectate.

revo

fade2black wrote:

MISS PATRICIA in the 3:00 at Brighton today is one we can make a case for...I realise I'm shooting myself in the foot with this one but if it doesn't win I can say...ah it's tuesday and if it does....well I picked a winner.

MISS PATRICIA - 2nd in her last 4 races...I don't think this is an animal that is perpetually unable to win as some of the form of his earlier efforts has been well advertised since. Takes a further drop in class today (Sure it's tuesday ;-) . Obviously enough, today's race is a maiden and one in which this horse should definitely win.

2nd spot hard luck. need one of your special outsiders too win.. haha

fade2black

Bloody tuesdays...haha....not much you can say about this really. Ah well.

scojones

7:10pm Rebelle e/w
7:40pm Artane Boys
8:15pm Buena Vista
8:45pm Excellent Vibes / River Quoile
9:15pm Englishtown

scojones

Ah jaysus, he was just coming back into it.

revo

sjones wrote:

7:10pm Rebelle e/w
7:40pm Artane Boys
8:15pm Buena Vista
8:45pm Excellent Vibes / River Quoile
9:15pm Englishtown

i like the odds on the 8.45 any reason why

scojones

Nice form. I've done both of them each way. Romatic Hero should have a foot in too.

revo

im going to copy ya so. have you got msn ??

scojones

check your pm