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Is Horatio real? (Hamlet)

  • 11-06-2005 8:00pm
    #1
    Fortinbras'
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    WHat do you think of the theory that Horatio is not real, hi is Hamlets perfect image of himself, horatio is never seen directly talkingto the other characters,
    He has the perfect mix of Reason Vs. Passion that Hamlet craves
    It is kind od like Fight CLub


    Also I Believe Hamlet to be Gay!
    He is
    • Obsessed with his mother
    • obsessed with Horatio
    • Is extremebly volatile towards Ophelia, one minute he loves her, the next he tells her to go to a nunnery
    • He is disillusioned with all woman "Frailty thy name is Woman"
    • He is disillusioned with life, longs for suicide
    • Is confused about his emotions, what he should do


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  • #2
    StupidLikeAFox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,768 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    English was last week, anyone actually care?


  • #3
    Fortinbras'
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭Fortinbras'


    ColHol wrote:
    English was last week, anyone actually care?

    ARISTOTLE WILL


  • #4
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Wow you're making threads because of me now. Do you like me that much?

    He is a real person, and he does directly talk to people, even if it is in a small amount. Marcellus even describes him as a "scholar".


    I do find your thought on Hamlet quite interesting though. There is a large belief that Shakespeare himself was gay, so it woudn't be unusual for him to write a play with a hidden homosexual feeling running through it.


  • #5
    Fortinbras'
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭Fortinbras'


    Deleted User wrote:
    Wow you're making threads because of me now. Do you like me that much?

    He is a real person, and he does directly talk to people, even if it is in a small amount. Marcellus even describes him as a "scholar".


    Yeah but Marcellus could be his imagination to, he never interacts with the main 11 characters, it is like HAmlet really is mad, with the people in the play who he is sane with, does that make sense?


  • #6
    Fortinbras'
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭Fortinbras'


    Deleted User wrote:
    Boring.

    How come when your online there is no green light at the bottom left of your user-bit where it should be?


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  • #7
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    In your profile, change to invisible mode.

    But why did you quote the word "boring" when you asked that?


  • #8
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Fortinbras' wrote:
    Yeah but Marcellus could be his imagination to, he never interacts with the main 11 characters, it is like HAmlet really is mad, with the people in the play who he is sane with, does that make sense?

    Well, it is a possibility, but that would mean that Bernado would have to be imaginary too.

    I'd have to read the book again to be sure though, as I can't remember if these minor characters did or did not interact with anyone else.


  • #9
    *Angel*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭*Angel*


    Yeah he's real...


  • #10
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    *Angel* wrote:
    Yeah he's real...


    I like the way you argue. Simple and yet it says it all.


  • #11
    Fortinbras'
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭Fortinbras'


    *Angel* wrote:
    Yeah he's real...

    And is Tyler Durden real?


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  • #12
    StupidLikeAFox
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    Are you real?


  • #13
    Fortinbras'
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭Fortinbras'


    ColHol wrote:
    Are you real?

    Oh god no, dont tell me ..........


  • #14
    *Angel*
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    Forgot to mention, Hamlet isn't gay.


  • #15
    Fortinbras'
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    *Angel* wrote:
    Forgot to mention, Hamlet isn't gay.
    why not?


  • #16
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah! An ex I guess?


  • #17
    Fortinbras'
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭Fortinbras'


    Deleted User wrote:
    Ah! An ex I guess?

    what?


  • #18
    *Angel*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭*Angel*


    A girl just knows these things!
    Fortinbras' wrote:
    And is Tyler Durden real?

    has got sh!t all to do with anything.


  • #19
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Fortinbras' wrote:
    what?

    I meant Hamlet is an ex of Angel. That's how she'd know he isn't gay.


  • #20
    *Angel*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭*Angel*


    Deleted User wrote:
    Ah! An ex I guess?

    Weirdo :D


  • #21
    mrs. hamlet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭mrs. hamlet


    I'm pretty sure Hamlet isn't gay......... ;)


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  • #22
    segadreamcast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭segadreamcast


    There are many such theories which abound from Hamlet, I'd advise you run a google on it - I'm sure you'll find better forums (*gasp* blasphemy) to discuss such a specialist topic.


  • #23
    JackKelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭JackKelly


    yea, he is real. It is cool to imagine that he isnt though. If you bend a few little rules, and ignore a few lines, he really could be all in Hamlets head.

    edit:at least this is a step up from "OmG teh TXt SPAEK is GHEY.CrAzY fR0g!11!1one1"


  • #24
    Amz
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    Worst thread ever ...


  • #25
    Victor
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    Fortinbras' wrote:
    And is Tyler Durden real?
    Tyler Durden is a real man - anything else is in your imagination.


  • #26
    Macmorris
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    Fortinbras' wrote:
    WHat do you think of the theory that Horatio is not real, hi is Hamlets perfect image of himself.

    I thought the idea behind the play was that Fortinbras was the kind of prince (i.e. decisive, self-assured) that Hamlet wanted to be. The play already has an ideal for Hamlet. Horatio's purpose is to serve as more of a 'straight-man', the sensible character who survives to tell the story at the end.


  • #27
    Fortinbras'
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭Fortinbras'


    Macmorris wrote:
    I thought the idea behind the play was that Fortinbras was the kind of prince (i.e. decisive, self-assured) that Hamlet wanted to be. The play already has an ideal for Hamlet. Horatio's purpose is to serve as more of a 'straight-man', the sensible character who survives to tell the story at the end.

    Yeah but hamlet also always goes on about how reason and passion are at war within himself and in some quote which i forget says that horatio has the perfect mix!


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